Reonito 1,335 Posted March 19, 2022 He's been covered in tape, but yeah, nothing obvious happened at the end of his last bout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,135 Posted March 19, 2022 Maybe he had a rough morning keiko session Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morty 1,480 Posted March 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, Sakura said: I didn't notice anything particular. He hurt his shoulder in the first couple of days when someone tried a kotenage on him. He was flexing his arm at the end of the bout and grimacing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,249 Posted March 19, 2022 Jiji reports he had left shoulder muscle pain after his bout with Kotokuzan on day 6, requiring *drumroll* 2 weeks rest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,249 Posted March 19, 2022 I went back to the golden mountain tapes to see if it was something flared up from the previous kotenage as Morty said or if it was a direct result from the day 6 bout. You can see the push down was initiated by kotokuzan on the left shoulder squarely, and chiyonokuni basically collapsed without resistance. Chiyonokuni pauses getting up and grabs his left shoulder, you can barely see his fingers from his right hand. Then the camera cuts to the winner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsolo 106 Posted March 19, 2022 FROM NIKKAN SPORTS (Japanes): CHIYONOKUNI WITHDRAWS FROM BASHO (DEEPL.COM TRANSLATE) Chiyonokuni out of action, left deltoid muscle (Shoulder) injury Third person to be out of action at juryo or above, following Terunofuji and Ishiura. [March 19, 2022, 10:58 AM]. On the seventh day of the spring tournament, Chiyonokuni (31=Kuju), the 13th rank in the west maegashira division, submitted a medical report to the Japan Sumo Association stating that he was expected to require two weeks of rest and treatment due to an injury to his left deltoid muscle. Chiyonokuni was 4-2 after six days, losing to newly-entered wrestler Kotokuzan on the sixth day. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,546 Posted March 20, 2022 A trio of withdrawals from the lower divisions, ahead of Day 9: Sd10w Suguro Jd46e Kogomaru Jd96e Agazumazakura (fusenpai Day 8) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,354 Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Yubinhaad said: Sd10w Suguro Wow-one of the big hopes. He was 3-0 and lost yesterday by yoritaoshi and was probably injured then. Zannen. Edited March 20, 2022 by Kintamayama 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,815 Posted March 22, 2022 Ms18 Otsuji didn't appear for his bout on day 10. Osanai just got the fusensho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) West Maegashira #5 Ishiura (Miyagino Beya) has returned from the Day 11 of the March Tournament. Matched against 2-8 Okinoumi for his return match, so at least the torikumi committee is gentle with him. As a recap, Ishiura is now 1-3-6, so even if he wins out it will be a 6-9. Nonetheless, a couple of wins will help cushion his fall down the banzuke anyway to land near his old stomping grounds of M11+-. Edited March 22, 2022 by Seiyashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,472 Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Seiyashi said: West Maegashira #5 Ishiura (Miyagino Beya) has returned from the Day 11 of the March Tournament. Matched against 2-8 Okinoumi for his return match, so at least the torikumi committee is gentle with him. As a recap, Ishiura is now 1-3-6, so even if he wins out it will be a 6-9. Nonetheless, a couple of wins will help cushion his fall down the banzuke anyway to land near his old stomping grounds of M11+-. He needs one more win not to have a demotable record. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted March 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sakura said: He needs one more win not to have a demotable record. Even from M5 - not yet enough disastrous records in lower makuuchi? Or is this a just to be safe thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,472 Posted March 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: Even from M5 - not yet enough disastrous records in lower makuuchi? Or is this a just to be safe thing? Having a demotable record is not the same as being demoted. We know that that they don't want to demote people who don't have demotable records, so it would be safety. M5 is probably safe anyway, but there is always the chance that enough people at the bottom pull through and a demotable record this high is needed for the division exchange. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,546 Posted March 22, 2022 Ahead of Day 11, one rikishi begins his basho, another returns to the fray, and one more withdraws. Entering/Returning: Ms43w Roman Sd72w Mori (fusenpai on Day 6, withdrew on Day 7) Withdrawing: Ms18w Otsuji (as reported above by Jakusotsu, a fusenpai on Day 10) On 20/03/2022 at 19:57, Kintamayama said: Wow-one of the big hopes. He was 3-0 and lost yesterday by yoritaoshi and was probably injured then. Zannen. Indeed, I only saw a short clip but it looked like his right knee buckled as he went down, but as his opponent went to help he signalled he was ok before the clip ended, so hopefully it's not too serious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,335 Posted March 22, 2022 9 hours ago, Sakura said: Having a demotable record is not the same as being demoted. We know that that they don't want to demote people who don't have demotable records, so it would be safety. M5 is probably safe anyway, but there is always the chance that enough people at the bottom pull through and a demotable record this high is needed for the division exchange. Exactly—his "projected rank" without another win would be M18w, which isn't bad enough to force him down but is bad enough that he'd go down if that was the most appropriate exchange with a bona fide promotion candidate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted March 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Reonito said: 9 hours ago, Sakura said: Having a demotable record is not the same as being demoted. We know that that they don't want to demote people who don't have demotable records, so it would be safety. M5 is probably safe anyway, but there is always the chance that enough people at the bottom pull through and a demotable record this high is needed for the division exchange. Exactly—his "projected rank" without another win would be M18w, which isn't bad enough to force him down but is bad enough that he'd go down if that was the most appropriate exchange with a bona fide promotion candidate. So, if I follow, his projected rank with a 2-13 would instead by M16w, which wouldn't put him at pole position in the firing line barring miracles at the bum end of the division. And of course if he scores 3 or 4 he would be at M14/12w respectively and fairly safe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,335 Posted March 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: So, if I follow, his projected rank with a 2-13 would instead by M16w, which wouldn't put him at pole position in the firing line barring miracles at the bum end of the division. And of course if he scores 3 or 4 he would be at M14/12w respectively and fairly safe. Even 2-13 should be safe, unless the case for over-demotion is overwhelming in terms of the rank/record of the juryo promotion candidate who otherwise would have to be left out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,472 Posted March 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Reonito said: Even 2-13 should be safe, unless the case for over-demotion is overwhelming in terms of the rank/record of the juryo promotion candidate who otherwise would have to be left out. We're not even sure what overwhelming would be. Mitoryu last year went 12-3Y at J6 and couldn't force down Chiyonokuni. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,335 Posted March 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sakura said: We're not even sure what overwhelming would be. Mitoryu last year went 12-3Y at J6 and couldn't force down Chiyonokuni. Maybe 9-6 at J1e? You're right; once you get down past the first few juryo ranks, nothing can probably do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,631 Posted March 23, 2022 Chiyonokuni is back https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/absence/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chartorenji 235 Posted March 23, 2022 2 hours ago, WAKATAKE said: Chiyonokuni is back https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/absence/ dude saw that the Sekitori Torikumi was balanced again and decided to mess with it lmao 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,807 Posted March 23, 2022 6 hours ago, WAKATAKE said: Chiyonokuni is back https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/absence/ Not surprised. I expected him to be back sooner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,546 Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Ahead of the final round of lower division action, one rikishi returns while two Jonokuchi enter to maintain their place on the banzuke: Sd10w Suguro (withdrew Day 9) Jk7w Kotorikisen - last fought in 2021 Nagoya Jk8w Takataisho - last fought in 2021 Aki, after which he had knee surgery Assuming they stay active, Jk4w Kato, Jk8e Wakaonehara and Jk9e Machi will fall off the banzuke. (Edit: and Jk3w Hoshinofuji too, with a fusenpai on Shonichi) Speaking of which, I see that Kotonawa has gone from the Sadogatake website, so it looks like his record banzuke-gai stint will come to an end with intai. Edited March 24, 2022 by Yubinhaad 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chartorenji 235 Posted March 24, 2022 Good luck to the Banzuke-Gai King! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites