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On 12/07/2023 at 02:34, Yamanashi said:

Yes, I noticed that, too, but no news from the heya that I can see.  He was listed with the active rikishi on the 6/25 Twitter post, but didn't make a before-basho video on the 7/8 Twitter post.

Not retired apparently, on the twitter banzuke photo, there he is in the mullet helping fold the banzukes to send out

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40 minutes ago, Kaitetsu said:

Not retired apparently, on the twitter banzuke photo, there he is in the mullet helping fold the banzukes to send out

Also listed (along with Bg Yamane) on the Narutobeya Twitter post ("Kano", but the kanji are the same as in the db).

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8 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

Also listed (along with Bg Yamane) on the Narutobeya Twitter post ("Kano", but the kanji are the same as in the db).

Hmm, so not in maezumo again? If he did get injured enough between maezumo and jonokuchi to go kyujo in both July and September, Naruto needs better injury preventive training... I dont wanna conclude anything yet but looking at the other guys, that might be the reality

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I watched the 40 min Juryo Soken segment, Oshoma and Oshoumi were there. Oshoma without the taping on the right shoulder, hopefully we can hope it healed and he will be in better shape for Aki?
In what I saw, Oshoma had bouts with Chiyomaru, Tamashoho, Mitoryu, Kitanowaka and Kiho. Around 7 bouts, won most of them, so like 5. When butsukari started he tried to go with buddy Hoshoryu but the Ozeki wanted to give Asakoryu a taste, so Oshoma went with Chiyoshoma.

He looked alright, hopefully he can fight a bit better on that right arm.

Just saw a bit of the Makushita part, Oshoumi had butsukari with Onosato.

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From the pre-basho videos we have a good news, a weird news and a sad news.
Good news: Yamane is put to be in Maezumo! (if i understood correctly, he is not kyujo)
Weird news: Karino continues to be kyujo

Sad news: Anzai will be retiring, no further news on why... 

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4 hours ago, Kaitetsu said:

From the pre-basho videos we have a good news, a weird news and a sad news.
Good news: Yamane is put to be in Maezumo! (if i understood correctly, he is not kyujo)
Weird news: Karino continues to be kyujo

Sad news: Anzai will be retiring, no further news on why... 

That's a real shock; he was a very likeable guy.  His ascent back to upper Makushita halted with a 2-5 last basho; maybe it was a bad injury.

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Day 10 of Aki 2023:

Oshoma has managed to slap down several rikishi to get to 7-4; will he repeat last basho (OK against upper Juryo, collapse against lower Juryo)?

Oshoumi gets to 5-1 against Asahakuryu (only his second loss in 27 bouts); the kimarite was utchari!

Oshoryu wasn't able to survive the same Asahakuryu, but sits at 4-1 waiting for veteran (and snake-bitten) Kotodaigo on day 12.

Hoshuzan is 4-2 and headed up in the ranks.Oyamada is back in business at 3-2, hoping to avenge his 1 MK basho.

Also at 3-2 are Murayama (at CH Sd13e) and Mukaida at Sd58w.

Sakura is at 4-2 in Jonidan, on his way back up the banzuke.

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9 minutes ago, Yamanashi said:

I got to see the amiuchi -- a beauty!  After Oshoumi pushed Asahakuryu to the edge, A twirled O around, but O continued the momentum and pulled A out over his right shoulder.

It was utchari

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Wait a hot minute... Sakurai... just had his danpatsu-shiki this friday? Coming after an 5-2?

There are photos on wakya39 on instagram...
Not Anzai, but Sakurai. And on the pre-basho posts on twitter and instagram, no mention on Sakurai retiring, just Anzai. Did I miss anything?

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Aki results:

Shikona                rank Aki        score        rank Kyushu*     rank Kyushu°   

Oshoma                  J4e                8-7              J2                    J3w

He’s still hurt.  6 wins by hatakikomi, 2 by yorikiri (2-6 Takakento and 2-7 Chiyosakae);

 

4 losses by oshidashi, 3 by yorikiri).  At least he got 8 wins after 12 days, then 0-3.

 

Oshoumi               Ms11w           5-2              Ms6                 Ms2w

A very good showing, including an improbable utchari against Asahakuryu (only his second loss).  He will be in the Makushita joi next basho.  

Oshoryu                Ms39e            4-3             Ms30                Ms30w

Guarded optimism here.  He roared to 4-0 against the rikishi in his rank neighborhood, but went 0-3 against fellow hotshots. Ms30 is still below his CH Ms7.

Hoshuzan             Ms42e             4-3              Ms35              Ms34w

Like the other two Makushita above, he went 4-1 (including a win over ex-Makuuchi Kyokutaisei), then 0-2 (including Arashio’s junior Inner Mongolian Daiseizan).  He’ll be near his CH for Kyusho.

 

Anzai                    Ms43w            0-0-7             

The word is that he is retiring; very sad.

 

Marusho               Ms45w            3-4              Ms55               Ms50e

Wobbling around in mid-Makushita.

Murayama            Sd13e              4-3               Sd3                  Sd2w

Tantalizingly close to Makushita at his CH.

 

Kawamura            Sd20e              2-5               Sd46                Sd46w

Gives back his 5-2 from last basho and lands where he was before.

 

Mishima                Sd24e              0-4-3           Sd66                 Sd75w

Kyujo and winless; was it Mishima who decided to retire suddenly??

 

Oyamada.             Sd36e                 4-3              Sd20               Sd23e

Oyamada gets back on the KK wagon after falling off last basho; back to near his CH rank.

 

Mukaida                Sd58w               3-4              Sd75                Sd67w

He is entering the Sandanme churn, where a rikishi wanders around mid-Sandanme for years before slowly dropping down to Jonidan.  But he’s only 24.

 

Kanazawa             Sd63w                4-3             Sd44                Sd46e

A new career high.

 

 Honma                 Sd83w                4-3             Sd64                 Sd64w

The closest thing Narutobeya has to a grizzled veteran, he goes 0-2 against rikishi with winning basho records, 4-1 against the MKs.

 

Oshozan               Jd10e                  3-4              Jd30                Jd33e

The expected rank is only a guess.

 

Sakurai                  Jd37w                5-2             Sd100                kyujo, intai

Word has it that he’s had his hair-cutting ceremony, though I can’t see why.

 

Yamane                 Mz                                                                     Jk15w

Possibly injured in Mae-zumo, unsure if he will appear on the banzuke in November.

 

Karino appears as banzuke-gai.

* projected   °posted

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The Sakurai ceremony is on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxmKr5tvufF/

From the post it appears that the severe knee problem, which predated his entrance into Narutobeya, was the deciding factor.  Still, he went out with a 5-2 basho. 

His highest rank was Ms57.  My poor translation skills suggests that he's going into the clothing business (help me out here!).

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Mentioned by Yubinhaad on Ozumo Discussions about the latest urakata promotions, but the heya's gyoji Shikimori Komei is promoted to Jonidan gyoji, and the heya's yobidashi Kenta is also promoted to Jonidan yobidashi. Both after a good while as the most senior jonokuchi urakata in those positions, Komei's promotion comes around 4 years after debut and Kenta's after 5 years. 

Promotions will be effective from December 25th, their first basho in these ranks will be January 2024.

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5 hours ago, rhyen said:

https://www.gate-hotel.jp/en/ryogoku/topics/all/1150#topics
october 21st and 22nd, Naruto beya is teaming up with the Gate Hotel for a Keiko and chanko nabe experience.

IIRC, this is the third year for this collaboration.  The heya visit is from 8 - 9:30 AM, and if I understand the literature, the heya cooks (Oshozan, et al.) cook up the nabe, but it's served in your hotel room.

 

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2 minutes ago, Yamanashi said:

Over on Instagram, a slide montage of Narutobeya's summer trip to Hawaii (when?  Hokuozan is there, so before mid-August?)

Some great photos here:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cy0sDm8P7rd/

 

On twitter(?) okamisan says it was summer holidays, so maybe pre-nagoya?

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Actual banzuke ranks are posted in the Aki results post above.  Oshoumi at Ms2w has a fighting chance to become Narutobeya's second sekitori (under the present Oyakata).

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Kyushu day 5 notes:

1) Oshoma is facing ex-Makuuchi at J1-4 and isn't acting like he wants to replace them: 1-4 with four oshidashi losses.

2) Oshoumi lost his first two matches, but came back with a win against J13 Asakoryu.  It appears he won with enough bravado to tie for 3rd in the "Spirited Rikishi" contest in Juryo; does anyone have a link to that match?

3) Oshoryu is 3-0 at Ms30w after victories over Makushita veteran Kototsubasa, youngster Tanji, and ex-Maegashira Daishomaru.

4) Hoshuzan is struggling to 0-2 at his top rank of Ms34; tomorrow he gets the aforementioned Kototsubasa.

5) Marusho at 2-1 is trying to get back to mid-Makushita.

6) Murayama has hit a wall at Sd2w.  However, Oyamada (3-0), Kanazawa (2-1) and Kawamura (2-0) are doing well in mid-Sandanme.

7) Mukaida is 2-1 in lower Sandanme, but Honma is 0-2 and Mishima is kyujo.

8) Oshozan is 2-1 in Jonidan, Yamane is 1-1 in Jonokuchi.

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I don't know, Oshoma seems completely unfocused this basho. Maybe his thoughts are more in the scandal than the dohyo, or I just like to fantasize...

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Kyushu day 10 notes:

1) A bad basho overall for Narutobeya.  The trend for most basho has them near the bottom of the heya list in W/L percentage at first, with a big surge around day 9 to end up near the top of the list.  That surge has not (yet?) happened, and they sit at <50% after day 10.

2) Oshoma seems to repeat his previous two basho:  survives the Ms1-4 crowd with ~4-4 record, then fails to boss up over the lower half of the division and finishes 7-8 or 8-7.  Darn frustrating rikishi.

3) Oshoumi at 2-3 will have to hustle to stay at the top of Makushita.  The good news is that the a 4-3 record just might send him to Juryo.

4) Oshoryu, 3-2 at Ms30 can get to Ms24 with a 4-3 or Ms17 with 5-2.

5) Hoshuzan hits the wall (1-4) at his top rank Ms34.  Marusho at Ms50, 3-2, has a chance to regain his career high.

6) Non-fat Oyamada still shines at 5-0; up against Nishonoseki's Nishida on day 11.

7) Of the other 5 Sandanme, only Kawamura has a winning record.

8) Oshozan is doing well at Jd33e.  Will end up between Jd8 and Sd65.  Yamane is 3-2 at Jk15; he can win against new kids, but has trouble against veterans on kyujo rebound.

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Oshoumi wins!  Day 12 against 5-7 J14 Chiyosakae; is this a replacement bout?

Oshoryu also wins to go to 4-2 at Ms30w.  Another win will put him just outside the Makushita joi.

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