Hakuho retires

[Tsuchinoninjin 1,248]

I’ve never seen a more ridiculous reason to use US fluid ounces on a product in Japan, ha.

[Yamanashi 3,725]

It must be tough getting the right blend of essences -- fermented mare's milk and yak sweat.

[since_94 650]

“I love the smell of napalm…er…I mean, bintsuke in the morning. It’s the smell…of victory.”

[Gurowake 3,922]

I really have to giggle about the "Onrain Stoa" in katakana.  I have no idea how popular writing it that way is (as opposed to using a real Japanese term), but it seems really silly to me.

[rhyen 1,809]

2 hours ago, Tsuchinoninjin said:

I’ve never seen a more ridiculous reason to use US fluid ounces on a product in Japan, ha.

Just needed to fit the 69 in there somewhere. 

[dingo 1,160]

Now you too can smell like Hakuho! 

[code_number3 694]

6 hours ago, Gurowake said:

I really have to giggle about the "Onrain Stoa" in katakana.  I have no idea how popular writing it that way is (as opposed to using a real Japanese term), but it seems really silly to me.

 

[Doitsuyama 1,173]

Hmm, a bintsuke perfume would be interesting, no?

[Koorifuu 886]

12 hours ago, Gurowake said:

I really have to giggle about the "Onrain Stoa" in katakana.  I have no idea how popular writing it that way is (as opposed to using a real Japanese term), but it seems really silly to me.

That's indeed what Google Translator comes up with in Japanese if you type in 'online store' in English, for whatever that's worth... I'd imagine they have plenty of trendy youths checking in and validating those translations.

...but honestly I couldn't have guessed that's what Onrain Stoa was, before reading the katakana. 

Edited January 25, 2023 by Koorifuu

[Gurowake 3,922]

32 minutes ago, Koorifuu said:

That's indeed what Google Translator comes up with in Japanese if you type in 'online store' in English, for whatever that's worth... I'd imagine they have plenty of trendy youths checking in and validating those translations.

...but honestly I couldn't have guessed that's what Onrain Stoa was, before reading the katakana. 

It's somewhat like the word "re-suka-" (with - indicating long marks because I'd rather type all this out than figure out how to make them) for auto racing.  It seems totally incomprehensible at first, particularly if you use a rhotic accent of English.

[Yubinhaad 11,546]

5 hours ago, Doitsuyama said:

Hmm, a bintsuke perfume would be interesting, no?

In fact there was one not so long ago, as reported by Akinomaki (the video is gone now but the store link still works).

Hakuho's product has the top note of ginjo sake, middle notes of ylang ylang and esuteru (aster, I guess?), and finally base notes of fundoshi musk and vanilla.

I assume the online store will open for business on the 28th.

[rhyen 1,809]

Ester, the main component of all perfume.

his FB page is now going into overdrive with reels advertising the daily countdown and sponsorship links. Today was @bigsizefashion_rs &@sumotomo_co._ltd

anyone checking the Tokyo terrestrial TV schedule? Someone mentioned that the danpatsushiki digest will be broadcasted at 4pm, same day

Edited January 25, 2023 by rhyen

[rhyen 1,809]

https://tv.yahoo.co.jp/program/108636935?fbclid=IwAR1berIcbi-I89iDP1M-Wb88TAt1wxIyX2FhzbGpvJnpAyXuvDWCHqRBulk

[Kintamayama 44,354]

On 25/01/2023 at 18:42, Koorifuu said:

That's indeed what Google Translator comes up with in Japanese if you type in 'online store' in English, for whatever that's worth... I'd imagine they have plenty of trendy youths checking in and validating those translations.

...but honestly I couldn't have guessed that's what Onrain Stoa was, before reading the katakana. 

Totally normal. A lot of usage of English when it comes to the "new" stuff.- onrain stoa is what it's called, just like intaanetto and supesharu and most of the "modern" words. hoomupeiji etc. 

Edited January 27, 2023 by Kintamayama

[Gurowake 3,922]

2 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Totally normal. A lot of usage of English when it comes to the "new" stuff.- onrain stoa is what it's called, just like intaanetto and supesharu and most of the "modern" words. hoomupeiji etc. 

Does "supesharu" refer to some specific kind of thing that's known as "special", like a sale at a store?  I would find it odd that Japanese wouldn't have the concept of "special" at all.  The first result for Googling "supesharu" doesn't seem to suggest it means anything other than "special" in general.  Onrain and Hoomupeiji are at least fairly new concepts if they don't want to just calque the words into Japanese equivalents, and "onrain stoa" is a set phrase probably seen as a single word, which is why they wouldn't use a Japanese word for store after "onrain".

[Sakura 1,472]

2 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

 hoomupeiji etc. 

I must admit I can't work this out.

[Hakuryuho 334]

6 minutes ago, Sakura said:

I must admit I can't work this out.

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[Seiyashi 4,071]

Schedule for Hakuhō's danpatsu courtesy of Herouth.

MC/Announcer: Kariya Fujio (NHK's top executive announcer and former sumo commentator)

1. Opening ceremony
2. Kabuki performance by Ichikawa Danjurō XIII (head of the Naritaya guild of kabuki actors)
3. Elimination tournament featuring Miyagino toriteki (and one sekitori, technically):
   1. Kawazoe v Raihō
   2. Ōtani v Hōkahō
   3. Ochiai v Senhō
   4. Ōnokura v Mukainakano
4. Jūryō dohyō-iri at 11:35am
5. Hakuhō's final sumo, versus:
   1. Mahatō (eldest son)
   2. Batjargal Munk- (can't make this out, nephew)
   3. Usukhbayar Demidjants (notable amateur sumo wrestler featured in our ams section, teammate of Hakuhō's nephew, and son of a famous bokh who was featured in the photos (brown robed guy?) when Hakuhō went back to Mongolia to promote his danpatsu)
6. Jūryō torikumi (curiously featuring Tamashōhō but not Ochiai or Enhō):
   1. Spoiler

       

      1. Tamashōhō v Hakuyōzan
      2. Tsushimanada v Kaishō
      3. Shōnannoumi v Asanoyama (again)
      4. Takakentō v Shimazuumi
      5. Chiyosakae v Terutsuyoshi
      6. Gōnoyama v Hidenoumi
      7. Rōga v Kitanowaka
      8. Shimanoumi v Tochimusashi
      9. Chiyonokuni v Daishōhō
      10. Kinbōzan v Kōtokuzan
      11. Tōhakuryū v Ōshōma
      12. Atamifuji v Daiamami
      13. Akua v Bushōzan

       

       

7. Hakuhō's final dohyō-iri:
   1. Tachimochi: Takakeishō
   2. Tsuyuharai: Hōshōryū
   3. Gyōji: Shikimori Inosuke
   4. Yobidashi: Ryūji (makuuchi yobidashi from Miyagino)
8. Shokkiri:
   1. Ōnojō and Ebisumaru
   2. Gyōji: Kimura Kazuma (makushita gyōji from Nishiiwa)
9. Kimigayō by GACKT
10. Mongolian National Anthem (Ariunbaataru Ganbaataru)
11. Go-aisatsu delivered by CEO of the Settsu Sōko group, Asano Hirotsugu
12. Danpatsu shiki
13. Flower bouquet gifting
14. Sumo jinku
    1. Kasugayama (ex-Ikioi) leading
    2. Hokuseihō and Enhō supporting
15. Break at 2:40pm
    1. Makuuchi dohyō iri
    2. Yokozuna dohyō iri (hinting at Terunofuji's participation?)
16. Taiko demonstration by Isegahama ichimon yobidashi
17. Makuuchi torikumi:
    1. Spoiler

       1. Hokuseihō v Chiyomaru
       2. Takarafuji v Mitoryū
       3. Tsurugishō v Azumaryū
       4. Ichiyamamoto v Kotoekō
       5. Kagayaki v Kotoshōhō
       6. Chiyoshōma v Hiradoumi/
       7. Aoiyama v Endō
       8. Takanoshō v Ōhō
       9. Ōnoshō v Ura
       10. Ichinojō v Myōgiryū
       11. Hokutofuji v Nishikigi
       12. Nishikifuji v Ryūden
       13. Sadanoumi v Midorifuji
       14. Abi v Tamawashi
       15. Mitakeumi v Daieishō
       16. Tobizaru v Wakamotoharu
       17. Meisei v Kotonowaka
       Kore yori sanyaku
       18. Kiribayama v Shōdai
       19. Takayasu v Hōshōryū
       20. Wakatakakage v Takakeishō

        

18. Yumitorishiki by Hōkahō

Edited January 27, 2023 by Seiyashi

[Seiyashi 4,071]

45 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

Go-aisatsu delivered by CEO of the Settsu Sōko group, Asano Hirotsugu

https://www.sankei.com/article/20211001-DV4HD6JSDRP7BHHTADRXMCDQZA/

Settsu Sōko has a strong history of involvement with sumo, sponsoring the lodgings of Asahiyama and Minato-beya. It was at one of their training facilities that Hakuhō stayed at to train when he first came to Japan, meeting the then-president Asano Tsuyoshi. Asano Hirotsugu, current CEO of Settsu Sōko, is the son of the late Asano Tsuyoshi.

45 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

• Kimigayō by GACKT
• Mongolian National Anthem (Ariunbaataru Ganbaataru)

GACKT needs no introduction as one of Japan's biggest pop stars, but Ariunbaatar Ganbaatar needs some: he's a Mongolian baritone (opera singer) who is pretty darn accomplished and has a number of musical awards. A note that the image indicates that Kimigayō is a solo performance, but the Mongolian national anthem is apparently a group performance, so I don't know whether that implies audience participation (ergo a sizeable Mongol contingent, which wouldn't be surprising)

45 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

Kabuki performance by Ichikawa Danjurō XIII (head of the Naritaya guild of kabuki actors)

45 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

MC/Announcer: Kariya Fujio (NHK's top executive announcer and former sumo commentator)

The Ichikawa Danjurō name/lineage is arguably the biggest in kabuki, and Kariya Fujio will no doubt be well known to the NSK, so scoring these favours is a major coup and a nice sop to throw to traditionalists who might be a a bit concerned about other bits of his danpatsu (e.g. the Mongolian national anthem). You've probably seen Ichikawa Danjurō in the setsubun photos at the same events as Hakuhō, so it's no surprise that they know each other. Kariya Fujio's career as announcer seems to be over, so newer sumo fans like me might not know him, but those around in the 90s or even before might find him much more familiar.

All in all, this looks like the sumo event of the year - even were it not for the fact that it's Hakuhō's retirement, this is one danpatsu with a lot of clout. Aminishiki's with the yokozuna gonin gakari was a show of Isegahama-beya's strength in terms of sekitori; Hakuhō's danpatsu is showing off just how good his connections are/how much goodwill he can call in. Toyonoshima had a hometown compatriot for his Kimigayō, Hakuhō has two international-grade singers. 

Edited January 27, 2023 by Seiyashi

[Kintamayama 44,354]

20 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

Wrong thread?

Wrong sport..

[Akinomaki 39,790]

On 25/01/2023 at 19:05, rhyen said:

Someone mentioned that the danpatsushiki digest will be broadcasted at 4pm, same day

TV Tokyo channels will broadcast "Thank you Daiyokozuna ..." ありがとう大横綱〜栄光の土俵人生20年　感動の引退相撲大公開〜 on the 29th, 4-5:15pm https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/thankyou_hakuho/ - the next day, but I guess that is what you meant

I had heard some talk of live coverage, on a weekday it would be on the news shows at that time, esp. TBS Nsta, but there is none on Saturday, this won't happen. TBS will post a detailed  report of the danpatsushiki in their yearly Hakuho documentary, this year the 12th edition, but usually in March, likely a bit earlier this time.
BS TeleTo plans to have a special as well.

 

[themistyseas 226]

1 hour ago, Seiyashi said:

Hakuhō's final dohyō-iri:

1. Tachimochi: Takakeishō
2. Tsuyuharai: Hōshōryū

For those who follow danpatsushiki: is this a bit curious at all? For someone like Hakuho, I'm surprised that his attendants aren't either A) from his stable, like Hokuseiho/Enho or even a longtime attendant/veteran like Ishiura (whatever his condition), or B) other recent Yokozuna in the Kyokai e.g. Kisenosato and Kakuryu. Wakatakakage is higher ranked than Hoshoryu so I imagine that signals his desire to be attended by the current top (Mongolian) talent?

[Seiyashi 4,071]

15 minutes ago, themistyseas said:

For those who follow danpatsushiki: is this a bit curious at all? For someone like Hakuho, I'm surprised that his attendants aren't either A) from his stable, like Hokuseiho/Enho or even a longtime attendant/veteran like Ishiura (whatever his condition), or B) other recent Yokozuna in the Kyokai e.g. Kisenosato and Kakuryu. Wakatakakage is higher ranked than Hoshoryu so I imagine that signals his desire to be attended by the current top (Mongolian) talent?

I think it's an appearance and lion-behind-fox thing: he wants to show that he has the goodwill of the current and likely future top rikishi for the next generation to come. For a danpatsu that seems to be all about showing he has the strong interpersonal connections, both within and without sumo circles, that would make him an asset to the NSK in the future, this choice of attendants seems very in line with that strategy. As for the attendants, they get to piggyback off that message by showing they have the favour of the man with those connections. 

Other than the toriteki tournament, the Miyagino rikishi themselves don't feature extremely strongly relative to, say, Aminishiki's. I can't help but think that this is deliberate, since Hakuhō seems to be trying to show that he understands that sumo is more than just results on the dohyō. 

He has also managed to do the deshi attendants thing once already, when Enhō first made it into makuuchi, so I guess there's no need to belabour that point too. 

Edited January 27, 2023 by Seiyashi

[Chartorenji 235]

36 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

Other than the toriteki tournament, the Miyagino rikishi themselves don't feature extremely strongly relative to, say, Aminishiki's. I can't help but think that this is deliberate, since Hakuhō seems to be trying to show that he understands that sumo is more than just results on the dohyō. 

Guess that makes sense. Make your top Rikishi do Jinku to show Miyagino Heya care about the culture/tradition. 

[Seiyashi 4,071]

1 hour ago, themistyseas said:

For those who follow danpatsushiki: is this a bit curious at all? For someone like Hakuho, I'm surprised that his attendants aren't either A) from his stable, like Hokuseiho/Enho or even a longtime attendant/veteran like Ishiura (whatever his condition), or B) other recent Yokozuna in the Kyokai e.g. Kisenosato and Kakuryu. Wakatakakage is higher ranked than Hoshoryu so I imagine that signals his desire to be attended by the current top (Mongolian) talent?

What I do find really unusual about his danpatsu is the invitation to amateurs to be his last opponents. No doubt they have a personal connection to Hakuhō, but it feels like he's using this event to soft debut them, and one of them might be taking Miyagino's foreigner slot in short order.