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27 minutes ago, nagora said:

On day 12 Abi (ranked #37) hadn't fought anyone higher than #19. The next day he was facing #3. That feels a bit less than "progressively" to me. I suppose that's a bit of hindsight and I guess he did actually lose the day 7 bout.

Well, tomorrow will be interesting - Sunday, probably not so much. Unless Abi wins tomorrow, that is. Then Sunday might produce some fireworks.

The boring thing about the pairing tomorrow is that Terunofuji will most likely be deciding the yusho on day 14 and a Y-O bout gets dropped. They could have made the basho a bit more interesting by putting Abi against Shodai instead and have Terunofuji face both ozeki.

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16 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

The boring thing about the pairing tomorrow is that Terunofuji will most likely be deciding the yusho on day 14 and a Y-O bout gets dropped. They could have made the basho a bit more interesting by putting Abi against Shodai instead and have Terunofuji face both ozeki.

I'm no strategist, but this seems like the best take.  It's complicated: do they take into account that Abi is not just an up-and-comer, but ex-Sanyaku? 

When Terunofuji himself won from M17, he fought no one above M9 until day 13; but by that time both Yokozuna and Takakeisho had left.  They put him up against the highest-ranked remaining rikishi, then the second- and third-ranked on days 14 and 15.  Would they have paired him against Hakuho if Hakuho hadn't pulled out the day before?  Was the torikumi written with this knowledge?  Was his ex-Ozeki status (and his storming through Juryo to get to M17) a factor?

 

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1 hour ago, Akinomaki said:

The boring thing about the pairing tomorrow is that Terunofuji will most likely be deciding the yusho on day 14 and a Y-O bout gets dropped. They could have made the basho a bit more interesting by putting Abi against Shodai instead and have Terunofuji face both ozeki.

This was my exact thought!

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Although if Abi manages to win tomorrow it will make the day 15 Y/O bout extremely important (provided that Abi wins his day 14 and 15 bouts). Would be interesting to see Teru have to beat Takakeisho and Abi back to back to yusho...

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I think the matchups will be simple enough for day 15

Terunofuji beats Abi, he faces Shodai, K’Sho against Mita, Abi against Meisei to round out the soroibumi 

Abi wins day 14, he’ll face Shodai while Teru will face K’Sho

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10 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

Oh!

Yeah, Takanosho is pretty much the first in line to any sanyaku slot that opens up, unless both Daieisho and Wakatakakage pull off perfect finishes, and even then if Takanosho goes 11-4 over their 8-7s then he's probably going to jump them to sekiwake. A 9-6 is a bit trickier, and might see Takanosho miss out completely especially if Meisei limits his damage to 7-8.

9-6 Takanosho should be just ahead of 8-7 Daieisho, and he should jump over an 8-7 Wakatakakage, who could slide over to M1e.

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10 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

Prior to his match with Takakeisho, Abi at M15 has not only not had a single match against the sanyaku, he has not even had a match against anyone Terunofuji would fight. I wonder what happened to the old approach of gradually throwing better opponents at a low-ranked upstart; maybe Abi's ex-sanyaku regularity and non-injury-related demotion warranted them skipping the formalities.

He did get Ura and Tamawashi, and everyone above them (except Takanosho and Mitakeumi) hasn't exactly distinguished themselves this basho...

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Terunofuji wins by classic Terunofuji's kimedashi in day 14 and get his Zensho against Shodai :-D

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58 minutes ago, bettega said:

Terunofuji wins by classic Terunofuji's kimedashi in day 14 and get his Zensho against Shodai :-D

Nice prediction.  But normally, Terunofuji resorts to kimedashi when his opponents manage to get an inside grip on his belt.  I don't see Abi going for the Yokozuna's mawashi...  But anything could happen, especially if Abi's thrusting attack proves ineffective against Teru.

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5 hours ago, Reonito said:

He did get Ura and Tamawashi, and everyone above them (except Takanosho and Mitakeumi) hasn't exactly distinguished themselves this basho...

He ought to have gotten them two days earlier than he did and Mitakeumi and Ichinojo shanghaied to fill the void. He was fed two more freebies before they decided something had to be done about the maegashira chasers, by which time there was no time to cause them to intra - eliminate and pit the survivor against more top competition. 

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Hiradoumi injured his right ankle against Oho, out with the wheelchair and most likely his basho is over, so it's makekoshi tomorrow.

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That sucks, but at least he should still be safe with 7 wins.

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Just thinking how proud their parents will be if brothers Abi and Ichiyamamoto win the Makuuchi and Juryo yushos respectively.

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Atamifuji is looking really good so far in Makushita, three tournaments and none with less than 5 wins, this basho 6-1 at m14.
He looks like he'll be a sekitori in no time as Makushita doesn't seem to be a big hurdle (like it is for many other people, e.g. for Shishi or Ishizaki atm) for him.
And he is only 19, whereas the others who are touted as future sekitori are mostly former collegiate stars and thus 22-24 in age and struggling more than him.

Excited for his future progress, the sky is the limit for him that's for sure. 
 

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Very nice match between Hoshoryu and Kiribayama today, much better than their records would suggest. It would have been more exciting had it happened earlier in the basho, but it's unfortunately overshadowed by the yusho race now.

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1 minute ago, lackmaker said:
9 hours ago, Reonito said:

9-6 Takanosho should be just ahead of 8-7 Daieisho, and he should jump over an 8-7 Wakatakakage, who could slide over to M1e.

Would they deny Daieisho in that scenario?

Moot, considering Takanosho is now 10-4 and both komusubi are 5-9. Daieisho and Wakatakakage at both 7-7 still need to win tomorrow to assume the two komusubi spots, barring some shenanigans from Ura, Tamawashi, or even Abi.

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More importantly, Terunofuji becomes the first yokozuna since Taiho to win both his debut tournaments, and only the fifth overall (after Tachiyama, Tochigiyama, Futabayama and Taiho). If he wins Hatsu 2022 as well, he will match Tachiyama and Tochigiyama for winning three tournaments immediately after promotion, and he will stand alone if he wins Haru. 

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Teru being a mighty yokozuna so far - congrats big Gan! (Yushowinner...)

He also fulfilled the yokozuna duty of making day 15 a lot less interesting! Although I'm interested to see if he can manage the zensho that was so close in July.

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Interesting comment from Wakanohana: He said that even though there have been some Mongolian yokozuna recently, Terunofuji is the one who does the most "Japanese" style sumo among them. 

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Abi lost but gave a good account of himself, showing why stylistically he'll be one of the Yokozuna's toughest matchups in the future. 

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That's 76 wins in the calendar year for Terunofuji. In the last 30 years only Hakuho, Asashoryu and Takanohana have beaten that.

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