Kyushu 2021 discussion

[Katooshu 2,774]

An emoji that comes to mind of posters complaining about the use of "Taka" and "WTK" etc. 

Edited November 22, 2021 by Katooshu

[dingo 888]

1 hour ago, Katooshu said:

An emoji that comes to mind of posters complaining about the use of "Taka" and "WTK" etc. 

Eh I think it's a pretty valid gripe. Doesn't take that much effort to write out the full name. 

[Thorbjarn 213]

I get that people think Takayasu made a tactical error today, BUT he actually was won Yotsu matchups with Terunofuji fairly recently. I really hope Takakeisho didn't injure himself today. Both top guys looked strong.

I still fail to understand how Shodai strung together a successful Ozeki run. He is just so volatile most of the time. 

Mitakeumi and Abi look really strong. If Abi survives tomorrow, will they start bringing him up? Usually seems to happen around day 12...

[Katooshu 2,774]

36 minutes ago, dingo said:

Eh I think it's a pretty valid gripe. Doesn't take that much effort to write out the full name. 

Nor does it take much effort, if any, to understand who is being referred to by those shortened terms - the other content in the post, or the posts around it, almost always make it clear if it wasn't obvious immediately. Even the poster calling for clarity said he already knew that it was Takakeisho being discussed. Just doesn't seem gripe worthy to me.

May Teru, Taka, and WTK live on! As the likes of Kise, Hak, and Giku (or the Geek) did before them......

Edited November 22, 2021 by Katooshu

[Katooshu 2,774]

By the way, Ms15TD Oshoma vs fast rising Sd100TD Kanno in makushita tonight

These two had a nice college rivalry that they split something like 4-4 I believe. Worth a watch if you have access to makushita footage.

[Yamanashi 3,360]

2 hours ago, dingo said:

Eh I think it's a pretty valid gripe. Doesn't take that much effort to write out the full name. 

I was thinking the same thing a few days ago.  Let's see, when was it?  Oh, yeah, Day 3 when Kaiju took out WKTKKG, NTNY beat Oh-no-show, No-Neck beat Pretty Boy, Henkoshoma won over The Flying Monkey, and Aquaman beat The Berserker.  What a day of action that was!

[Benihana 1,824]

I hope Ura's elbow is OK. But what a beautiful executed retaliation. His knees are the only thing between him and a long sanyaku career.

[Eikokurai 3,419]

Hey, if the Japanese have no problem abbreviating shikona when they coin names for eras, it's good enough for us. AkeTaka (Akebono-Takanohana), TochiWaka (Tochinishiki-Wakanohana), KitaTama (Kitanoumi-Tamanoumi) ...

Edited November 23, 2021 by Eikokurai

[Seiyashi 3,913]

I have only one gripe with respect to abbreviations: why is Takakeisho TKO and not TKS? 

[Tigerboy1966 1,220]

Anyone interested in the topic of head injuries in the sport ought to check out today's makushita bout between Oshoumi and Otsuji. The two youngsters seemed to have been inspired by the tactics of water buffalo bulls.

[WAKATAKE 2,450]

Ichiyamamoto spoils the zensho for Oho!

[Seiyashi 3,913]

26 minutes ago, WAKATAKE said:

Ichiyamamoto spoils the zensho for Oho!

Had to happen sooner or later. IIRC the list of juryo zensho winners is a very short one, and the three that come to mind (Tochinoshin, Baruto, Kitanofuji) were ozeki/yokozuna-class. Even Terunofuji didn't manage it on his way back up. I wouldn't rate Oho so highly as those four other rikishi mentioned.

Edited November 23, 2021 by Seiyashi

[jsolo 106]

Kyushu November Basho Links and Statistics Blog--Day 9: results, standings, match articles, videos, photos, Kimarite statistics, Time of match Statistics (have day by day Average time and Day by Day average Cumulative time), Kachi-koshi/Machi-Koshi, Top Rank Performance, Maegashira v san'yaku,  and more

Enjoy

November Basho Day 9

 

[Katooshu 2,774]

As we were talking about Oho the last few days, Kotokuzan was quietly sneaking up and now has a share of the lead - I wonder what's behind his drastic improvement from the 4-11 debut.

Bunny bones boy, Asanowaka, is also doing his little friend proud.

Edited November 23, 2021 by Katooshu

[Eikokurai 3,419]

53 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

I have only one gripe with respect to abbreviations: why is Takakeisho TKO and not TKS? 

Because he's so cute many people find him a Total Knock Out.

[Seiyashi 3,913]

7 minutes ago, Katooshu said:

As we were talking about Oho the last few days, Kotokuzan was quietly sneaking up and now has a share of the lead - I wonder what's behind his drastic improvement from the 4-11 debut.

Bunny bones boy, Asanowaka, is also doing his little friend proud.

Nerves, or a lack thereof. I wonder how many poor debutants succumb more to nerves than lack of skill, especially considering it hasn't been that long of a regrouping for him.

[rhyen 1,733]

18 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

So the last word on both this and yesterday's hansoku: Herouth says that Shikoroyama mentioned on today's NHK broadcast that some years ago, a match was stopped on suspicion of a foot having gone out, but the foot had not in fact gone out and the bout had to be redone. Therefore, the policy was instituted that in any cases of doubt, the match would be allowed to continue and the footage would be checked afterwards. In other words, a hand raised for a mono-ii isn't always just for what happened to end the bout; it can be for something much earlier.

And I wouldn't be surprised if the video room shimpan were also communicating with the dohyo-side shimpan even during the bout to highlight something, since there's a few more shimpan and a lot more monitors in the video room.

 

[Seiyashi 3,913]

Completely irrelevant, but I've always liked that Harumafuji spider-crouch before the tachi-ai. Who was the white-haired shimpan who called the mono-ii?

And again the institutional memory of the forum never ceases to amaze me.

[rhyen 1,733]

32 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

Completely irrelevant, but I've always liked that Harumafuji spider-crouch before the tachi-ai. Who was the white-haired shimpan who called the mono-ii?

And again the institutional memory of the forum never ceases to amaze me.

Minatogawa oyakata from Nihonoseki 

[I am the Yokozuna 160]

Really interesting tournament with some interesting developments. Sumo-wise, Kyushu was never some great place. I always think of the dohyo there as very slippery. What really caught my eye was the quarter finals yesterdays, probably the semifinals tomorrow and the final on Friday in the Makushita yusho race. It is really tough - while in Makuuchi or Juryo you could have a day off and possibly relay on someone to give you a second chance, below every bout is a final, no second chances. 

Really like the comeback of Tomokaze. If he reached Juryo, it would be a miracle after his horrific injury. However, no signs of his explosive oshi style that took him to Makuuchi, so I do not know what to expect of him. 

[Seiyashi 3,913]

Just now, I am the Yokozuna said:

Really interesting tournament with some interesting developments. Sumo-wise, Kyushu was never some great place. I always think of the dohyo there as very slippery. What really caught my eye was the quarter finals yesterdays, probably the semifinals tomorrow and the final on Friday in the Makushita yusho race. It is really tough - while in Makuuchi or Juryo you could have a day off and possibly relay on someone to give you a second chance, below every bout is a final, no second chances. 

Really like the comeback of Tomokaze. If he reached Juryo, it would be a miracle after his horrific injury. However, no signs of his explosive oshi style that took him to Makuuchi, so I do not know what to expect of him. 

It's a common enough trope that some promising up and comer suffers injury and has to adapt his style accordingly, but he grows as a rikishi as a result. Chiyonofuji was probably the best example of this.

[Seiyashi 3,913]

Ironically, Kiribayama is the one paying for being unbalanced against Onosho.

[Djihi 33]

Hello, second week Mitakeumi! 

[Eikokurai 3,419]

Well, this is proving to be a rubbish day for the yusho race. Mitakeumi and Takakeisho both defeated. Terunofuji’s to lose now.

[Akinomaki 37,455]

Takakeisho needs the ring sense of Toyonoshima - he could have remained on the bales a bit longer and Meisei would have touched down first

Edited November 23, 2021 by Akinomaki