Jejima 1,001 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) Announcing the September 2021 edition of Guess Kisenosato's Aite.... Guess Hokutofuji's Aite All you have to do is guess M2E Hokutofuji's opponent each day, before the torikumi comes out. If you guess correctly, you get a shiroboshi. This is surprisingly more fun (or frustrating) and challenging than it should be. It also gets you to think a bit more about the 'inner-workings' of sumo. Here is the current banzuke:- Banzuke for September 2021 Gurowake (Y2E 9-6) Y1 chishafuwaku (Y1W 7-7-1) kuroimori (YOW 7-6-2) Y2Reonito (O1E 9-6 ) YO Sakura (Y1E Kosho) Profomisakari (K1W 8-7) S1 Oshirokita (M2E 8-7)Jejima (S1W 6-8-1) K1 Jakusotsu (S1E 5-10) Andonishiki (M1E Kosho) M1 WAKATAKE (M1W 4-11) Hakuhonofan (M3E 5-5-5) M2 shimodahito (M2W 4-7-4)The Kyokai (M3W 4-11) M3 Ryoshishokunin (K1E 0-1-14) Comments: Yokozuna kuroimori is asked to perform Ozeki Quality sumo this basho - or seriously consider his future as a Yokozuna. Yokozuna chishafuwaku is urged to perform this time than in the previous basho. The rules are as follows:-1. Guess M2E Hokutofuji's opponents on each day of the basho.2. Entries need to be in before 11:30 am Japan time on the previous day, except for the days 1 and 2 entries which need to be in before 11:30 am Japan time on the Friday prior to the start of the basho. If it turns out that the daily toriukumi is printed before these times, then any entry proved to have come afterwards is not allowed for that day (so enter early to be safe).3. Tie-breakers to decide the Yusho.... We look at the result of the day 15 prediction, then day 14, and so on back to day 1. If still a tie, then the highest ranked on the banzuke can claim the Yusho.4. If M2E Hokutofuji goes kyujo during the basho, we switch to M2W Kiribayama (M1W Takanosho, then M1E Hoshoryu kept further in reserve, if needed due to a mass spate of kyujos) for the days after his fusensho loss (I.e. we can still guess who gets the freebie). For the immediate day afterwards, (unless it is known very soon after the event), everyone will get a 'kyujo'.5. Players that are leading the Yusho race (especially in the final few days of the basho), are requested / expected to get their picks in very early (before all the other players, if possible) - in order to avoid suspicions of 'tactical picking'.6. If the kyokai changes the originally posted torikumi for any day (such as for a late kyujo), the first version released will be used for the purpose of this game. (Highlighted, so that I will remember it, unlike in a previous basho!) 7. If the sumo forum goes down for a long period of time, you may still make your picks to Jejima or Jakusotsu at the 'obvious' gmail addresses or by any other method. Special prizes (many thanks to Yaochoyama): 1. Outstanding performance (shukun-sho) - the one who correctly picks the aite the most consecutive days. You have to have a minimum of three to win this prize. 2. Fighting spirit (kanto-sho) - the one who limits their incorrect aite picks to the shortest number of consecutive days (literally the one whose longest losing streak is the shortest). Any losing streak of 5 or more days would disqualify you from this prize. 3. Technique (gino-sho) - the one who is best at making correct picks when no one, or hardly anyone else does. A point system is used as follows and you need at least 3 points to claim this prize: 3 points if you're the only win to make the correct pick 2 points if you're one of two to make the correct pick 1 point if you're one of three to make the correct pick New players () are cordially invited to this game! Edited September 6, 2021 by Jejima Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,528 Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) No clue if everyone is entering yet, but in case of everyone starting... 1. Takakeisho 2. Shodai Edited September 7, 2021 by Gurowake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,001 Posted September 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Gurowake said: No clue if everyone is entering yet, but in case of everyone starting... 1. Takakeisho 2. Shodai I doubt that we'll see Sekiwake Asonyama fight this basho, but other than that.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,001 Posted September 6, 2021 1. Mitakeumi 2. Takakeisho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 3,543 Posted September 6, 2021 1. Meisei 2. Takayasu Also, is it just me or are the ranks for the backup rikishi a bit off? I nearly had a fright when I put in Takayasu for day 2 and saw him at M1e in Jejima's OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,001 Posted September 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Seiyashi said: Also, is it just me or are the ranks for the backup rikishi a bit off? I nearly had a fright when I put in Takayasu for day 2 and saw him at M1e in Jejima's OP. Corrected. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 788 Posted September 6, 2021 9 hours ago, Jejima said: I doubt that we'll see Sekiwake Asonyama fight this basho, but other than that.... Well, no Hakuho, and I think I'll wait a few days to see who else might be sitting out... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 788 Posted September 6, 2021 As far as I can tell, there have never been fewer than 7 san'yaku rikishi on the Day 1 torikumi in the 6-basho era, and that's already the maximum for Aki barring additional withdrawals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 646 Posted September 6, 2021 Please give me Kosho! Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 3,543 Posted September 7, 2021 10 hours ago, Reonito said: As far as I can tell, there have never been fewer than 7 san'yaku rikishi on the Day 1 torikumi in the 6-basho era, and that's already the maximum for Aki barring additional withdrawals. The query bears out the feeling that that seems to have been an awfully frequent occurrence lately, though. Surely in at least one of the basho in the last two years, we also went into day 1 knowing in advance that there would be this few. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,528 Posted September 7, 2021 With Hakuho out... 1. Takakeisho 2. Mitakeumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 788 Posted September 7, 2021 12 hours ago, Seiyashi said: The query bears out the feeling that that seems to have been an awfully frequent occurrence lately, though. Surely in at least one of the basho in the last two years, we also went into day 1 knowing in advance that there would be this few. I don't think so, or they wouldn't be on the torikumi. It's rare to see a fusen loss on day 1, where someone withdraws after the bouts are scheduled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,295 Posted September 7, 2021 1. Takakeisho 2. Mitakeumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,528 Posted September 7, 2021 On 06/09/2021 at 03:32, Jejima said: I doubt that we'll see Sekiwake Asonyama fight this basho, but other than that Who? There are only 2 Sekiwake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oshirokita 161 Posted September 8, 2021 1. Takakeisho 2. Mitakeumi (pending further kyujo announcements) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,001 Posted September 8, 2021 1. Takakeisho 2. Mitakeumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryoshishokunin 212 Posted September 8, 2021 Time to crash the train (pending me having missed a kyujo annoucement). 1. Mitakeumi 2. Meisei Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 3,543 Posted September 8, 2021 48 minutes ago, Ryoshishokunin said: Time to crash the train (pending me having missed a kyujo annoucement). 1. Mitakeumi 2. Meisei Oh finally. Here I was worrying I had too hot a take. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chishafuwaku 450 Posted September 9, 2021 Day 1 Takakeisho Day 2 Mitakeumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted September 9, 2021 D1 Takakeisho D2 Mitakeumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 788 Posted September 9, 2021 1. Takakeisho 2. Mitakeumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hakuhonofan 326 Posted September 10, 2021 1. Takakeisho 2. Mitakeumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,382 Posted September 10, 2021 Day 1 - Takakeisho Day 2 - Mitakeumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,001 Posted September 10, 2021 Only three players started on the wrong foot. Gurowake (2-0) chishafuwaku (2-0) kuroimori (2-0) Reonito (2-0) Sakura (2-0) Oshirokita (2-0) Jakusotsu (2-0) WAKATAKE (2-0) Hakuhonofan (2-0) Jejima (0-2) Andonishiki (0-0-2) shimodahito (0-0-2) Ryoshishokunin (0-2) Seiyashi (0-2) The Kyokai (0-2) Profomisakari (kosho) Hokutofuji's aites: 1. Takakeisho, 2. Mitakeumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,001 Posted September 10, 2021 Day 3 - Shodai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites