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Aki 2021-GTB - RESULTS!! - 140 entries (22 newbies)

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35 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

With a handful of hours left, I think we shattered the entry record.

It must be thanks to that huge sumo exhibition during the Olympics opening ceremony. That attracted lots of new fans around the world.

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6 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

While it's sad to see you go, shouldn't that be intai rather than permanent kyujo? I'm sure Hakuho would love a permanent kyujo option...

I'm sure my interest will rekindle some day

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Well, I'm in. Better late than never but it was totally off the cuff. Good luck all and @RaeucherLax  !

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10 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

I announce my permanent kyujo for GTB.

I lost interest in banzuke movement, an ozeki sent to makushita par ordre del mufti, nothing of the spirit of sumo in the banzuke burocracy.

GTB was the only game of interest for me, I can now ignore the game section completely.

My interest for the sumo at hand has dwindled as well, but I won't go kyujo for that long anymore.

Kuukido came into existence through my love for sumo, that love never dies

Say it isn't so @Akinomaki

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I heart Mitoryu is in twice so they are sure to win anyway. 

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Whoops, I had the page open with a revised entry but I got distracted and forgot about it. Couldn't decide what to do with Mitoryu, I ended up swapping him with Chiyonokuni but he'll almost certainly not be M17, so that's gonna be a few lost points. Oh well, at least I'm entered.

142 entries by my count, a new record!

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1 hour ago, Hidenotora said:

142 entries by my count, a new record! 

There's a few duplicate names on the list that I suspect will be culled from the official count.  Are you adjusting for that?

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7 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

There's a few duplicate names on the list that I suspect will be culled from the official count.  Are you adjusting for that?

Oh, I wasn't, I just counted the total (and even then I got it wrong, its 143 total entries)

But even with the obvious duplicates taken out, the previous record was 132 back in Natsu 2006, so I think it's still a record number.

I think there's a few duplicates this time because people kept getting the error when they submitted and probably just tried again with another email address or something. Can't see anyone attempting to cheat using the same name with a different email address multiple times. I beg for leniency on their behalf.

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For most of the entry period, I had Mitoryu ahead of Chiyomaru and Tokushoryu, but I was feeling pretty uncomfortable about how many points I'd lose if he were M17W, and then I ended up not promoting him at all.

I also had Ichiyamamoto and Yutakayama ahead of Chiyonoo and ended up moving them below instead.

I think Reonito paraphrasing Asashosakari's "however low you think the Juryo guys should go, it's not low enough" got in my head a bit. Hope I didn't ruin anything.

I'm dropping my worst score this time and could move to #1 with a strong result, so I've got my fingers crossed harder than usual.

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So the banzuke out on the 30th?

2 hours ago, Hidenotora said:

Oh, I wasn't, I just counted the total (and even then I got it wrong, its 143 total entries)

But even with the obvious duplicates taken out, the previous record was 132 back in Natsu 2006, so I think it's still a record number.

I think there's a few duplicates this time because people kept getting the error when they submitted and probably just tried again with another email address or something. Can't see anyone attempting to cheat using the same name with a different email address multiple times. I beg for leniency on their behalf.

I wasn't suggesting anyone was. Just making a joke. I figured they were just changes in submissions for the multiple entries and only the last would count.

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Considering it was his first ever kachikoshi above J9 (in over three years in juryo!) I ended up going for a "hasn't demonstrated that he deserves it" excuse and left out Mitoryu.

Hakuho (Ye 15-0 Y)       Y    Terunofuji (O1e 14-1)
Shodai (O2e 8-7)         O    Takakeisho (O1w 1-2-12)
Mitakeumi (Sw 8-7)       S    Asanoyama (O2w 0-0-15)
Meisei (Kw 8-7)          K    Takayasu (Se 7-6-2)

Ichinojo (M2w 10-5)      M1   Takanosho (M2e 8-7)
Hoshoryu (M5w 10-5)      M2   Hokutofuji (M3e 8-7)
Wakatakakage (Ke 5-10)   M3   Kiribayama (M6w 9-6)
Kotonowaka (M11w 12-3)   M4   Tamawashi (M10e 11-4)
Daieisho (M1w 5-10)      M5   Chiyoshoma (M7w 8-7)
Takarafuji (M8e 8-7)     M6   Onosho (M6e 7-8)
Ura (M13w 10-5)          M7   Shimanoumi (M9w 8-7)
Terutsuyoshi (M10w 8-7)  M8   Okinoumi (M5e 5-10)
Tobizaru (M3w 4-11)      M9   Aoiyama (M8w 7-8)
Hidenoumi (M9e 7-8)      M10  Chiyotairyu (M4w 4-11)
Myogiryu (M7e 5-10)      M11  Endo (M1e 1-4-10)
Kotoeko (M4e 2-13)       M12  Tochinoshin (M12e 7-8)
Ishiura (M16w 9-6)       M13  Kagayaki (M12w 7-8)
Tsurugisho (M15e 8-7)    M14  Kaisei (M11e 6-9)
Chiyonoo (M14w 7-8)      M15  Ichiyamamoto (M17e 8-7)
Chiyomaru (M13e 6-9)     M16  Tokushoryu (M15w 7-8)
Yutakayama (J1e 10-5)    M17  Chiyonokuni (M16e 7-8)

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Just found this Aki 2021 Banzuke Prediction by random:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfJLrAtEX54

They had Wakatakakage at M4. I had at M3. Did anyone drop him lower than M3? Seems to me they haven't done that in a long time and have been pretty generous to Sanyaku in drops for awhile now.

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Mine. I promoted Mitoryu and demoted Chiyonofuji. I figured the Yusho warranted it. Also mixed up Hokutofuki and Hoshoryu as I was in a hurry and they are both H names and didn't notice. 

  Yokozuna E: Hakuho Y1e (15-0)
    Yokozuna W: Terunofuji O1e (14-1)
      Ozeki E: Shodai O2e (8-7)
      Ozeki W: Takakeisho O1w (1-2-12)
         Sekiwake E: Mitakeumi S1w (8-7)
    Sekiwake W: Asanoyama O2w (0-0-15)
     Komusubi E: Meisei K1w (8-7)
    Komusubi W: Takayasu S1e (7-6-2)
  Maegashira E: Ichinojo M2w (10-5)
  Maegashira W: Takanosho M2e (8-7)
Maegashira E2: Hokutofuji M3e (8-7)
Maegashira W2: Hoshoryu M5w (10-5)
Maegashira E3: Wakatakakage K1e (5-10)
Maegashira W3: Kiribayama M6w (9-6)
Maegashira E4: Kotonowaka M11w (12-3)
Maegashira W4: Tamawashi M10e (11-4)
Maegashira E5: Daieisho M1w (5-10)
Maegashira W5: Chiyoshoma M7w (8-7)
Maegashira E6: Takarafuji M8e (8-7)
Maegashira W6: Onosho M6e (7-8)
Maegashira E7: Tobizaru M3w (4-11)
Maegashira W7: Ura M13w (10-5)
Maegashira E8: Chiyotairyu M4w (4-11)
Maegashira W8: Shimanoumi M9w (8-7)
Maegashira E9: Terutsuyoshi M10w (8-7)
Maegashira W9: Aoiyama M8w (7-8)
Maegashira E10: Okinoumi M5e (5-10)
Maegashira W10: Hidenoumi M9e (7-8)
Maegashira E11: Myogiryu M7e (5-10)
Maegashira W11: Endo M1e (1-4-10)
Maegashira E12: Ishiura M16w (9-6)
Maegashira W12: Tsurugisho M15e (8-7)
Maegashira E13: Tochinoshin M12e (7-8)
Maegashira W13: Kagayaki M12w (7-8)
Maegashira E14: Kaisei M11e (6-9)
Maegashira W14: Ichiyamamoto M17e (8-7)
Maegashira E15: Kotoeko M4e (2-13)
Maegashira W15: Yutakayama J1e (10-5)
Maegashira E16: Mitoryu J6w (12-3)
Maegashira W16: Chiyonoo M14w (7-8)
Maegashira E17: Chiyomaru M13e (6-9)
Maegashira W17: Tokushoryu M15w (7-8

 

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38 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Just found this Aki 2021 Banzuke Prediction by random:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfJLrAtEX54

They had Wakatakakage at M4. I had at M3. Did anyone drop him lower than M3? Seems to me they haven't done that in a long time and have been pretty generous to Sanyaku in drops for awhile now.

Now that I see some predictions for Waka M3E, it looks feasible, but coming into the deadline, I would've said he was rather locked into the M4W slot.

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4 hours ago, Rocks said:

Just found this Aki 2021 Banzuke Prediction by random:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfJLrAtEX54

They had Wakatakakage at M4. I had at M3. Did anyone drop him lower than M3? Seems to me they haven't done that in a long time and have been pretty generous to Sanyaku in drops for awhile now.

I dropped him all the way to M5E, yikes.

6 hours ago, Kaito said:

For most of the entry period, I had Mitoryu ahead of Chiyomaru and Tokushoryu, but I was feeling pretty uncomfortable about how many points I'd lose if he were M17W, and then I ended up not promoting him at all.

I also had Ichiyamamoto and Yutakayama ahead of Chiyonoo and ended up moving them below instead.

I think Reonito paraphrasing Asashosakari's "however low you think the Juryo guys should go, it's not low enough" got in my head a bit. Hope I didn't ruin anything.

I'm dropping my worst score this time and could move to #1 with a strong result, so I've got my fingers crossed harder than usual.

Since I'm in the habit of getting GTB in early after each basho (to clear the mental decks, as it were), I pretty much went with all of what you did above and didn't revise it. I guess I'll be the canary in the coal mine for whether your initial reactions were right or not.

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Mine:

Hakuho Y Terunofuji
Shodai O Takakeisho
Mitakeumi S Asanoyama
Meisei K Takayasu
Ichinojo 1 Takanosho
Hoshoryu 2 Hokutofuji
Kotonowaka 3 Tamawashi
Kiribayama 4 Ura
Wakatakakage 5 Chiyoshoma
Daieisho 6 Takarafuji
Shimanoumi 7 Onosho
Terutsuyoshi 8 Okinoumi
Aoiyama 9 Endo
Hidenoumi 10 Tobizaru
Chiyotairyu 11 Ishiura
Kotoeko 12 Myogiryu
Tochinoshin 13 Kagayaki
Tsurugisho 14 Kaisei
Ichiyamamoto 15 Yutakayama
Mitoryu 16 Chiyonoo
Chiyomaru 17 Tokushoryu

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4 hours ago, Rocks said:

I [] demoted Chiyonofuji. 

I think you are correct here. But maybe just because he's been dead for 5 years now.

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13 hours ago, Rocks said:

I wasn't suggesting anyone was. Just making a joke. I figured they were just changes in submissions for the multiple entries and only the last would count.

Yeah I was just joking too, I know multiple entries aren't allowed so when people did it so brazenly, they must have been confused by the error and just tried multiple times. If you resubmit using the same email, it just updates your previous entry and it puts you to the bottom of the "received entries" list as the most recent entrant (or so it seems).

Here's my guess (I think this is what I ended up submitting anyway), Mitoryu almost certainly wrong but oh well:

Hakuho Y Terunofuji
Shodai O Takakeisho
Mitakeumi S Asanoyama
Meisei K Takayasu
Ichinojo M1 Takanosho
Hoshoryu M2 Hokutofuji
Kotonowaka M3 Tamawashi
Kiribayama M4 Wakatakakage
Daieisho M5 Chiyoshoma
Takarafuji M6 Onosho
Ura M7 Shimanoumi
Terutsuyoshi M8 Okinoumi
Aoiyama M9 Tobizaru
Hidenoumi M10 Chiyotairyu
Ishiura M11 Myogiryu
Endo M12 Kotoeko
Tochinoshin M13 Kagayaki
Tsurugisho M14 Kaisei
Yutakayama M15 Chiyonoo
Ichiyamamoto M16 Tokushoryu
Chiyomaru M17 Mitoryu

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17 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

Considering it was his first ever kachikoshi above J9 (in over three years in juryo!) I ended up going for a "hasn't demonstrated that he deserves it" excuse and left out Mitoryu.

I did swap him with Chiyonokuni for the last slot, but it could easily go the other way. Overall, we share 66 GTB points! The only appreciable difference is that I was less lenient with Wakatakakage and Kotoeko.

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2 minutes ago, Reonito said:

Ura at M4? (Scratchingchin...)

Ok, something has gotten confused somewhere down the line. Even according to my own system Ura and Shimanoumi should be at the same place!

GTB is like coding - the person who submitted this entry a month ago clearly wasn't me...

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16 hours ago, Oortael said:
21 hours ago, Rocks said:

I [] demoted Chiyonofuji. 

I think you are correct here. But maybe just because he's been dead for 5 years now.

Well, it's about time then. :-D

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Hakuho(15-0 Ye) Y Terunofuji(14-1 Oe)
Shodai(8-7 Oe) O Takakeisho(1-2 Ow)
Mitakeumi(8-7 Sw) S Asanoyama(0-0 Ow)
Meisei(8-7 Kw) K Takayasu(7-6 Se)
Ichinojo(10-5 M2w) M1 Takanosho(8-7 M2e)
Hoshoryu(10-5 M5w) M2 Hokutofuji(8-7 M3e)
Kotonowaka(12-3 M11w) M3 Tamawashi(11-4 M10e)
Kiribayama(9-6 M6w) M4 Wakatakakage(5-10 Ke)
Daieisho(5-10 M1w) M5 Chiyoshoma(8-7 M7w)
Takarafuji(8-7 M8e) M6 Onosho(7-8 M6e)
Ura(10-5 M13w) M7 Shimanoumi(8-7 M9w)
Terutsuyoshi(8-7 M10w) M8 Okinoumi(5-10 M5e)
Aoiyama(7-8 M8w) M9 Hidenoumi(7-8 M9e)
Tobizaru(4-11 M3w) M10 Chiyotairyu(4-11 M4w)
Myogiryu(5-10 M7e) M11 Endo(1-4 M1e)
Ishiura(9-6 M16w) M12 Tochinoshin(7-8 M12e)
Kagayaki(7-8 M12w) M13 Kotoeko(2-13 M4e)
Tsurugisho(8-7 M15e) M14 Kaisei(6-9 M11e)
Chiyonoo(7-8 M14w) M15 Ichiyamamoto(8-7 M17e)
Yutakayama(10-5 J1e) M16 Chiyomaru(6-9 M13e)
Tokushoryu(7-8 M15w) M17 Mitoryu(12-3 J6w)

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Also 66 GTB points shared between my entry and @Gurowake's. This should be a high-scoring round unless they do something wacky.

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19 hours ago, Oortael said:

I think you are correct here. But maybe just because he's been dead for 5 years now.

Has it really been 5 years?  It feels like it "just" happened, and that I'd been following sumo for quite a while when it happened compared to how long ago it's been, but it's really the exact opposite.  Time really goes faster as you get older, even when the age is measured from something other than your birth.

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