Seiyashi 4,071 Posted August 24, 2021 Just now, rhyen said: Not really, in his competition mawashi, the belly will protrude. What used to be hidden by the top fold of the kesho mawashi will now be displayed fully above the tsuna. Eh, I was judging also by his moobs, which seem to have gotten flabbier. But it could be an optical illusion because of the keshomawashi thing, yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,790 Posted August 24, 2021 ooo ooo o o o vid vid 5 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 1,256 Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) I'm all out of likes so I have to thank you this way. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, @AKINOMAKI!! These are great pictures!! Edited August 24, 2021 by sumojoann Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaminariyuki 497 Posted August 24, 2021 3 hours ago, RabidJohn said: Yeah, he's going to start each day of every honbasho from now on doing something that clearly hurts his knees. I wouldn't mind seeing a new variation of the Shiranui dance that doesn't involve the iconic-but-agonising shuffle, if it prolongs his career a little bit. Yes, it's great to see him get the rope but the dohyo-iri (either version) looks mighty tough on a fellow with trashed knees. I can completely relate, as I cannot even sit seiza-style, never mind shiko, after two knee surgeries. I feel for the old boy. He was clearly gambarizing to do even what he managed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,725 Posted August 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Seiyashi said: Eh, I was judging also by his moobs, which seem to have gotten flabbier. But it could be an optical illusion because of the keshomawashi thing, yeah. Actually, flab may be a sign of losing weight. The fat cells collapse when they're not supported by more fat. Don't ask me how I know. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,809 Posted August 24, 2021 So Terunofuji will have Takarafuji & Terutsuyoshi as attendants Hakuho will be left with Kaisei & Ishiura (who will definitely clash at some point in the next basho given their banzuke rank projection). Will the reserves be drawn from Oitekaze heya again (5 possible candidates) or somewhere else (going by history, we have Tamawashi, Okinoumi or even the Tatsunami duo for something completely new). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,725 Posted August 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, rhyen said: So Terunofuji will have Takarafuji & Terutsuyoshi as attendants Hakuho will be left with Kaisei & Ishiura (who will definitely clash at some point in the next basho given their banzuke rank projection). Will the reserves be drawn from Oitekaze heya again (5 possible candidates) or somewhere else (going by history, we have Tamawashi, Okinoumi or even the Tatsunami duo for something completely new). Takarafuji was great as always. Focused, stoic. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,478 Posted August 24, 2021 Just quickly back to the shiranui vs unryu debate...does anyone here really think that Terunofuji is destined for a long career at yokozuna? He's just a temporary stop over so Hakuho can retire and Endo can 'get gud' and become the next Yokozuna and revitalize the sumo wrestler butt body pillow industry. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Churaumi 728 Posted August 24, 2021 What do you mean "revitalize?" I thought those things were standard features of a Japanese house. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerboy1966 1,376 Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Yamanashi said: Takarafuji was great as always. Focused, stoic. He's had plenty of practice. I'm pretty sure that he has carried the sword and swept the dew for both Harumafuji and Hakuho before. He could probably write the manual on dohyo-iri etiquette. Has anyone else ever acted as attendant to three different yokozuna? Edited August 24, 2021 by Tigerboy1966 addition 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,433 Posted August 24, 2021 RE: Terunofuji’s knees and the dohyo-iri. I imagine it’s worse doing the squat as one of the two sidekicks, a role Terunofuji has often done if I’m not mistaken. He may feel more relieved he doesn’t have to do that again than! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
808morgan 805 Posted August 25, 2021 On 19/07/2021 at 04:41, ArvidMan said: Great! I wonder who is going to be the next one Not Shoudai, he was the, "next Ozeki" but he is not the next Yokozuna. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted August 25, 2021 12 hours ago, 808morgan said: Not Shoudai, he was the, "next Ozeki" but he is not the next Yokozuna. You never know. All he needs to do is stick around at ozeki long enough for the next sengoku period when Terunofuji and Hakuho retire, which can't be that far off. He put together an ozeki run with a yusho and had two back to back junyusho before that, he might damn well do it again if he manages a 14-1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,725 Posted August 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: You never know. All he needs to do is stick around at ozeki long enough for the next sengoku period when Terunofuji and Hakuho retire, which can't be that far off. He put together an ozeki run with a yusho and had two back to back junyusho before that, he might damn well do it again if he manages a 14-1. My earlier prediction stands. Ten years from now, when describing this period, someone will comment "Terunofuji went up to Yokozuna and Asanoyama fell down due to suspension, leaving only Takakeisho as Ozeki." Hope I'm wrong, but ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 807 Posted August 25, 2021 16 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said: Has anyone else ever acted as attendant to three different yokozuna? Interesting question. I don't know the answer but I'm wondering if an attendant to the two Kokonoe beya yokozuna, Chiyonofuji and Hokutoumi, was around long enough to also attend fellow Takasago ichimon yokozuna Akebono. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaminariyuki 497 Posted August 29, 2021 On 25/08/2021 at 09:11, Yamanashi said: My earlier prediction stands. Ten years from now, when describing this period, someone will comment "Terunofuji went up to Yokozuna and Asanoyama fell down due to suspension, leaving only Takakeisho as Ozeki." Hope I'm wrong, but ... Is Takakeisho looking good for this basho? I don't recall hearing if he was at the joint keiko. Being kadoban he needs to bring it, of course, or he'll be looking at sekiwake in Kyshu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,725 Posted August 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Kaminariyuki said: Is Takakeisho looking good for this basho? I don't recall hearing if he was at the joint keiko. Being kadoban he needs to bring it, of course, or he'll be looking at sekiwake in Kyshu. You made my point. Who did I leave out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 1,256 Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Yamanashi said: You made my point. Who did I leave out? What about our boy Shodai!!?? Is he THAT forgettable?! Edited August 29, 2021 by sumojoann Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,870 Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, sumojoann said: What about our boy Shodai!!?? Is he THAT forgettable?! Oh yeah. Shodai The last 16 career-high Ozekis have averaged 7.5 wins per ozeki basho. (Baruto was high at 8.9) Shodai at 7.6 is not looking all that bad. Just your standard 8-7 ozeki. Edited August 29, 2021 by Asojima 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,725 Posted August 30, 2021 5 hours ago, sumojoann said: What about our boy Shodai!!?? Is he THAT forgettable?! About a month ago (I can't remember for sure how long ago; what am I, a computer?) I made a point about how underwhelming Shodai is as an Ozeki. I just now reiterated my prediction that in ten years people will forget Shodai when they list the Ozeki of this period. I am here to say I was wrong: in one month people will forget Shodai. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,354 Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Yamanashi said: About a month ago (I can't remember for sure how long ago; what am I, a computer?) I made a point about how underwhelming Shodai is as an Ozeki. I just now reiterated my prediction that in ten years people will forget Shodai when they list the Ozeki of this period. I am here to say I was wrong: in one month people will forget Shodai. Don't ever underestimate the Shoudai. Next Yokozuna. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaminariyuki 497 Posted August 30, 2021 14 hours ago, Kintamayama said: Don't ever underestimate the Shoudai. Next Yokozuna. Given the tricks Hakuho pulled out of the bag when he faced Shodai last basho, there's little question that he agrees with you and Joann. And even his detractors don't question Hakuho's knowledge and appraisal of the ranks. I think the time looks ripe for a possible new challenger into the ozeki ranks, maybe two. One of the big storylines for me this basho is whether Takayasu brings enough game to make another ozeki run, but I won't be surprised if we have new names in the hat for possible advancement by the end of the Kyushu basho. I just laughed when I noticed this discussion is in the Terunofuji Yokozuna thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliesin 68 Posted September 20, 2021 Was there any Tomioka Hachiman activity? I haven't heard anything about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,809 Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Taliesin said: Was there any Tomioka Hachiman activity? I haven't heard anything about it. That and the sumida shrine will probably take place after the Aki basho since they need time to carve the names into the tablet? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,354 Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) Nikkan calculated the average length of Terunofuji's bouts. Very telling. July 2020 - 14.4 seconds, 13-2 yusho at M17 Aki 2020 - 6.7 seconds, 8-5-2 at M1 November 2020 - 9.5 seconds, 13-2 jun-yusho at Komusubi Hatsu 2012 11.9 seconds, 11-4 jun-yusho at Sekiwake Haru 2021 - 9.3 seconds, 12-3 yusho at Sekiwake Natsu 2021 - 8.7 seconds, 12-3 yusho at Ozeki July 2021 - 13.2 seconds, 14-1 jun-yusho at Ozeki Aki 2021 - 27.7 seconds, 13-2 yusho at Yokozuna. Edited September 27, 2021 by Kintamayama 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites