Inspired by a discussion elsewhere, how would you rank the following tsuna runs in order of strength?
1. JY > Y
2. Y > JY
3. D > D
4. D > JY
5. JY > D
Feel free to explore nuance if you wish, but I’ve purposely avoided reference to complicating factors like basho records (e.g. 12-3Y v 13-2JY?) or strength of schedule (no Yokozuna beaten, etc) to focus on the core value of each combo. Would you consider a double doten superior to the options 1 and 2 because doten are “yusho equivalent” or does an actual yusho supersede two equivalents?
I haven’t included D > Y, Y > D or Y > Y because those are cast iron promotion cases.
@Eikokurai suggested I bring my post from the 'Natsu basho 2021' thread to here, I'm a bit clueless on how to do it effectively -- but the link is above and I'll copy the post itself below:
Alrighty, here's me with wasting time at work (and if this should move to another thread, someone let me know and/or Mods to your thing).
Since the 6-basho era, there have been 28 Yokozuna promotions.
Post-Futahaguro, there have been 12.
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Category 1: Back to Back Yusho
6-basho Era: 11 (39%) of promotions earned this way. No Ozeki who won back to back yusho in this time were denied. Minimum wins were 25 (Taiho, 1961).
Post-Futahaguro: 8 (67%) of promotions earned this way. No Ozeki who won back to back yusho in this time were denied. Minimum wins were 26 (Wakanohana III, 1998 & Musashimaru, 1999).
Conclusion: With 13-2 Y, Terunofuji's promotion is all but assured. 12-3 Y has historical precedent.
Category 2: Yusho + Jun-Yusho
6-basho Era: 7 (25%) of promotions earned this way. Minimum wins were 25 (Wakanohana I, 1957 & Hokutoumi, 1987). Average wins, 26.29.
Post-Futahaguro: 2 (17%) of promotions earned this way. Minimum wins were 25 (Hokutoumi, 1987). Average wins, 25.5.
Conclusion: With 13-2 JY, Terunofuji's promotion would not be unheard of. 14-1 JY would be wholly justifiable and in line with past and recent precedent.
Category 3: Yusho + Doten
6-basho Era: 2 (7%) of promotions earned this way. Minimum wins were 26 (Kitanoumi, 1974). Average wins, 27.
Post-Futahaguro: 1 (8%) of promotions earned this way. 28 wins (Kakuryu, 2014).
Conclusion: 15-D would be required for the win total precedent, but given the above on Y + JY
For Terunofuji 13-2 D is likely enough, 14-1 D a virtual guarantee.
Likewise for Takakeisho, 13-2 Y may be enough, a 14-1 Y should do the trick.
Category 4: 1 Yusho
6-basho Era: 1 (4%) of promotions happened this way, Tochinoumi 1963. 27 wins.
Post-Futahaguro: Hasn't happened.
Conclusion: 15-0 would be required to get to 27 wins. If Teru doesn't get Y/D/J, I'm sure we all agree he's no chance. I only included this for completeness.
Category 5: 2 Doten
6-basho Era: 1 (4%) of promotions happened this way, Wakanohana II 1978. 27 wins. Back-to-back 12-3D, 12-3Y wasn't enough to earn Wakanohana I promotion in 1956.
Post-Futahaguro: Hasn't happened.
Conclusion: 15-0 D would be required to get to 27 wins. You'd have to imagine they'd promote Takakeisho off the back of that. Takakeisho/Takanosho doten, anyone? I suppose at 13+ wins it would be unprecedented, and stranger things have happened.
Category 6: 1 Doten & 1 Jun-Yusho
6-basho Era: 2 (7%) of promotions happened this way, (Mienoumi 1979, Futahaguro 1986). Average wins, 26.5.
Post-Futahaguro: Hasn't happened.
Conclusion: 15-0 would be required to get to 27 wins. Takakeisho needs doten at a minimum.
Category 7: 1 Doten
6-basho Era: 2 (7%) of promotions happened this way, (Kashiwado 1961, Tamanoumi 1969). Average wins, 23.
Post-Futahaguro: Hasn't happened.
Conclusion: Yeah we all know this isn't gonna happen.
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Well, forgive the long post, but if we go by historical standards that's what we're looking at.
Realistically, Takakeisho needs nothing less than 13-2 D to even start the conversation. 14-1 Y to be virtually assured of promotion.
For Terunofuji, 13-2 Y/D/J is probably enough, 14-1 anything virtually assures it.
Now, tear my methodology apart, forum members!