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I have received penalty takers from everyone for the finals now - and even an extra one from someone competing in the Saucer final. (I already had the Saucer Final penalty takers!).

Many thanks everyone. :-)

 

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All line-ups received, and all are in order - well played, guys! They'll be published shortly before kick-off to allow for possible changes of mind.

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21 minutes ago, Pitinosato said:

I am only lacking one line-up from @Joaoiyama 

Sadly my line-up is only Denmark. :'-(

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23 minutes ago, Joaoiyama said:

Sadly my line-up is only Denmark. :'-(

Yes, but is it...

1. Denmark 1st, 2. Denmark 2nd, 3. Denmark ET

or

1. Denmark 2nd, 2, Denmark ET, 3. Denmark 1st

or one of the other 4 possible combinations?

 

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4 hours ago, Jejima said:

Apart from the Italy 1st, of course. ;-)

 

Yes, that's the same for both Shounokuni and me.

Just to be clear, I'm betting on a draw after tonight's first half of Italy v Spain (which is quite likely statistically), that's why I'm using my (C) slot for Spain (1st half) there. I expect Italy to come out on top after 90 minutes, and they could also possibly lead after the first half (which is now irrelevant in our match) so that why I have their 1st half in slot 2 and their 2nd half in slot 3....

I expect England to beat Denmark tomorrow after 90 minutes, but now I'm obviously strongly rooting for the Danes to defy my prediction... ;-)

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5 hours ago, Jejima said:

Apart from the Italy 1st, of course. ;-)

 

That cursed S2 bamboozled me! I'm leaving my error there for posterity. 

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Semifinal matches - Day 1

Bowl Semifinal - Match 1
The Winner progresses to the Bowl Finals. 
The Loser goes home.

Nantonoyama (Italy) vs chishafuwaku (Portugal)

Nantonoyama    1. England (S1) (2)    2. England (S1) (1)    3. Italy (2)    4. Italy (1)    5. England (S1) (ET)    6. Italy (ET) ®
chishafuwaku    1. Italy (2)    2. Italy (1)    3. Italy (ET)    4. Spain (S1) (2)    5. Spain (S1) (1)    6. Spain (S1) (ET)

Comments of the players:

Nantonoyama: And now the R power begins to be really dangerous to use. First time in my life that I say it, but GO ENGLAND!!!

chishafuwaku: I'm dead unless DENMARK gets a win out of the blue. Piece of cake! 


Cup Semifinal - Match 1
The Winner progresses to the Cup Finals. 
The Loser progresses to the 3rd place play-off.

Fujiko (Denmark) vs Ganzohnesushi (Austria)

Fujiko    1. England (1)    2. England (2)    3. England (ET)    4. Italy (1)    5. Italy (2)    6. Italy (ET)    7. Denmark (1)    8. Denmark (2)    9. Denmark (ET) ®
Ganzohnesushi    1. Italy (S1) (2)    2. Italy (S1) (ET)    3. Denmark (ET)    4. Italy (S1) (1)    5. Denmark (1)    6. Spain (ET)    7. Spain (1)    8. Denmark (2)    9. Spain (2)

Two slots have been removed, but there are quite enough left. :)

Comments of the players:

Fujiko: Go England, go!

Ganzohnesushi: Rooting for Denmark. If Danish Dynamite doesn't get wet in London they can make it to the final. Oh, and I'm representing Felix Austria. It is their first semi final in a tournament since 1954 World Cup when they were crushed by West Germany (1-6). Here is hope for a much better result.


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Both of "my" matches are featuring uncanny similarities: both have identical teams on each side, both have only one slot in common, which is England (2nd) in slot #1, and both times it's not discarded because of special team status - what are the odds?!
 

Bowl Semifinals Match 2:

Jejima:  1. England ® (2nd), 2. England (1st), 3. Spain (ET), 4. Spain (2nd), 5. Italy (1st), 6. Spain (1st), 7. Italy (ET), 8. Italy (2nd), 9. England (ET)
Comment: Normally I would play it safe and put England ET first as my R team. But my aite has an identical team to myself, so I need to find a way to break the deadlock, and so I will confidently gamble by putting the 'R' into the first slot, in a time event that has to happen. For some reason, I have the hunch that Spain will do better than Italy - which is probably very wrong. But I can also see Italy leading at half-time....
vs.
Pitinosato:  1. England (2nd), 2. England (ET), 3. England (1st), 4. Italy (S1) (1st), 5. Italy (S1) (2nd), 6. Italy (S1) (ET), 7. Spain (ET), 8. Spain (2nd), 9. Spain (1st)
Comment: Same Teams, but Jezz with his R-Team. Advantage ? or Disadvantage ? We will see....

Jejima               0:0     Pitinosato
(England)                    (Netherlands)
                             
England ® (2nd)       :      England (2nd)
England (1st)         :      England (ET)
Spain (ET)            :      England (1st)
Spain (2nd)           :      Italy (S1) (1st)
Italy (1st)           :      Italy (S1) (2nd)
Spain (1st)           :      Italy (S1) (ET)
Italy (ET)            :      Spain (ET)
Italy (2nd)           :      Spain (2nd)
England (ET)          :      Spain (1st)


Cup Semifinals Match 2:

Godango:  1. England © (2nd), 2. England (1st), 3. England (ET), 4. Italy (ET), 5. Italy (1st), 6. Italy (2nd), 7. Denmark (ET), 8. Denmark (1st), 9. Denmark (2nd)
Comment: I fear with the arrival of the finals format my wave of good fortune may be over. But there are no losers here, I've had a good time and gained a new appreciation for the world's most popular sport. HAKKEYOI! (also psych I'm totally gonna win).
vs.
Djodjoyoshi:  1. England (S1) (2nd), 2. Italy (2nd), 3. England (S1) (1st), 4. Italy (1st), 5. Denmark (1st), 6. Denmark (2nd), 7. Italy (ET), 8. Denmark (ET), 9. England (S1) (ET)
Comment: My cousin told me that I'm facing a strong and nice opponent this time (yeah, he's hypocrit too). Anyway, nice to meet you Godango from distant Australia, may the best win !

Godango              0:0     Djodjoyoshi
(Hungary)                    (Poland)
                             
England © (2nd)       :      England (S1) (2nd)
England (1st)         :      Italy (2nd)
England (ET)          :      England (S1) (1st)
Italy (ET)            :      Italy (1st)
Italy (1st)           :      Denmark (1st)
Italy (2nd)           :      Denmark (2nd)
Denmark (ET)          :      Italy (ET)
Denmark (1st)         :      Denmark (ET)
Denmark (2nd)         :      England (S1) (ET)

 

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Plate Seminfinals, Line-ups

 

Notice: yellow card for Joaoiyama for droning (Eh?)

 

Comment Athenayama:

Can we use the Plate as a snowboard?

 

(Comment Pitinosato: (Laughing...) - please NOT !!!)


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All in the hands of Denmark and England (Tsuppari...)

 

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3 against 9 !!! (Eek...)

But a win of the spaniards, in one or even 2 halfs.... (Onthebanzuke...)

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Half-time report

Just like in Wembley, no decision to be found. Let's hope for the second semifinal to spare us from penalty shoot-out!
 

Bowl Semifinals Match 2:

Jejima               0:0     Pitinosato
(England)                    (Netherlands)
                             
England ® (2nd)       :      England (2nd)
England (1st)         :      England (ET)
Spain (ET)        D  °:      England (1st)
Spain (2nd)       D  °:°  D  Italy (S1) (1st)
Italy (1st)       D  °:°  D  Italy (S1) (2nd)
Spain (1st)       D  °:°  D  Italy (S1) (ET)
Italy (ET)        D  °:°  D  Spain (ET)
Italy (2nd)       D  °:°  D  Spain (2nd)
England (ET)          :°  D  Spain (1st)

 

Cup Semifinals Match 2:

Godango              0:0     Djodjoyoshi
(Hungary)                    (Poland)
                             
England © (2nd)       :      England (S1) (2nd)
England (1st)         :°  D  Italy (2nd)
England (ET)          :      England (S1) (1st)
Italy (ET)        D  °:°  D  Italy (1st)
Italy (1st)       D  °:      Denmark (1st)
Italy (2nd)       D  °:      Denmark (2nd)
Denmark (ET)          :°  D  Italy (ET)
Denmark (1st)         :      Denmark (ET)
Denmark (2nd)         :      England (S1) (ET)

 

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Semifinal matches - Day 1

Nantonoyama vs chishafuwaku
chishafuwaku has already finished, full draw, waiting  for England tomorrow.


Fujiko vs Ganzohnesushi
Not bad beginning for Ganzohnesushi.

Actually not much more can be said yet. We'll see what England and Denmark play.

EC2021_Round4_Matches_Day_1.jpg

Color coding:

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Bench Euros 2020 Saucer Finals

What an opening round!

@Chijanofuji has his first 6 slots loaded with draws -- not a terrible position to be in.

    Match Results - End of Day 1    
Score Result Shounokuni (Ukraine) vs Chijanofuji (Slovakia) Result Score
    England (S1) 2nd   Spain (C) 1st D  
  D Italy 1st   Italy (S2) 1st D  
    Denmark (C) ET   Italy 2nd D  
  D Italy 2nd   Spain 2nd D  
    England ET   Italy ET D  
    England 1st   Spain ET D  
  D Italy ET   Denmark 1st    
    Denmark 1st   Denmark 2nd    
    Denmark 2nd   Denmark ET    
0 Total Score 0

So -- if I understand correctly (and that is often not the case) -- if England win in regular time -- the match will go to Shounokuni. Otherwise, there are a few ways this can go down:

If England Lead at Half-Time:

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If Denmark Lead at Half-Time:

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If it's a draw after half-time:

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For the love of kami correct me if I'm wrong -- I admittedly did this pretty quickly.

Good luck to both players!

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13 minutes ago, Godango said:

Bench Euros 2020 Saucer Finals

What an opening round!

@Chijanofuji has his first 6 slots loaded with draws -- not a terrible position to be in.

For the love of kami correct me if I'm wrong -- I admittedly did this pretty quickly.

Good luck to both players!

I only looked at this very quickly, but at first glance I think you got it spot on!

And kudos for your innovative way to present this! (Applauding...)

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Plate Seminfinals, Halftime standings

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Nothing happend, draws or not yet played

Decision today....

 

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3 draws for Kumo-Koma, difficult to score....

but to reach the extra time is obvoiusly possible

We will see what England will do tonight....

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9 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Half-time report

Just like in Wembley, no decision to be found. Let's hope for the second semifinal to spare us from penalty shoot-out!
 

Bowl Semifinals Match 2:


Jejima               0:0     Pitinosato
(England)                    (Netherlands)
                             
England ® (2nd)       :      England (2nd)
England (1st)         :      England (ET)
Spain (ET)        D  °:      England (1st)
Spain (2nd)       D  °:°  D  Italy (S1) (1st)
Italy (1st)       D  °:°  D  Italy (S1) (2nd)
Spain (1st)       D  °:°  D  Italy (S1) (ET)
Italy (ET)        D  °:°  D  Spain (ET)
Italy (2nd)       D  °:°  D  Spain (2nd)
England (ET)          :°  D  Spain (1st)

 

Hey Jakusotsu,

won't you do such a unbelievable Matrix like Godango ???;-)

I want to know in which constellation I will win :-D

If there is a constellation I can win...

Pitinosato

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2 hours ago, Pitinosato said:

Hey Jakusotsu,

won't you do such a unbelievable Matrix like Godango ???

Because I always fall asleep when I try to watch that movie. B-)

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10 hours ago, Godango said:

Bench Euros 2020 Saucer Finals

What an opening round!

@Chijanofuji has his first 6 slots loaded with draws -- not a terrible position to be in.

    Match Results - End of Day 1    
Score Result Shounokuni (Ukraine) vs Chijanofuji (Slovakia) Result Score
    England (S1) 2nd   Spain (C) 1st D  
  D Italy 1st   Italy (S2) 1st D  
    Denmark (C) ET   Italy 2nd D  
  D Italy 2nd   Spain 2nd D  
    England ET   Italy ET D  
    England 1st   Spain ET D  
  D Italy ET   Denmark 1st    
    Denmark 1st   Denmark 2nd    
    Denmark 2nd   Denmark ET    
0 Total Score 0

So -- if I understand correctly (and that is often not the case) -- if England win in regular time -- the match will go to Shounokuni. Otherwise, there are a few ways this can go down:

If England Lead at Half-Time:

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If Denmark Lead at Half-Time:

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If it's a draw after half-time:

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For the love of kami correct me if I'm wrong -- I admittedly did this pretty quickly.

Good luck to both players!

Does this take into account that each half is treated as separate?

For example, if England are leading 2-0 at half-time, but Denmark score one goal in the second half, so the result ends up as 2-1 to England, and an England win. But for the purposes of this game, the first half is considered as a win to England, and the second half as a win to Denmark.

I think that eventuality could break the Matrix? 

(Matrix...)

 

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50 minutes ago, Jejima said:

Does this take into account that each half is treated as separate?

For example, if England are leading 2-0 at half-time, but Denmark score one goal in the second half, so the result ends up as 2-1 to England, and an England win. But for the purposes of this game, the first half is considered as a win to England, and the second half as a win to Denmark.

I think that eventuality could break the Matrix? 

(Matrix...)

 

As far as I can tell it does take that into account.

 

We'll go through your example to double-check...

If England lead at halftime - follow Godango's top matrix.

Then in that matrix choose one of the tree scenarios depending on the result after 90 minutes. So in your example where Denmark only scores 1 goal in the 2nd half, England wins after 90 minutes, so choose the option on the left "ENG Win in regular time".

Result "Shounokuni wins"!

 

And if I calculate this example  "the regular way" - bearing in mind I already have draws in slots 1-6, while Shounokuni already has draws in slots 2, 4 and 7:

Shounokuni scores 1-0 in slot one because of England's win after 90 minutes, but neither chain breaks (I have my (C) team there with a draw).

In slot 2 Shounokuni and I both have exactly the same, so no change, and neither chain breaks.

In slot 3 - no extra time for Shounokuni's (C) Denmark, counts as a draw, none of us score, and neither chain breaks.

In slot 4 Shounokuni and I both have draws, none of us score, and neither chain breaks.

In slot 5 - no extra time for Shounokuni's England, counts as a draw, none of us score, and neither chain breaks.

In slot 6 Shounokuni scores 2-0 because of England's lead after the 1st half, neither chain breaks.

In slot 7 Shounokuni's Italy ET does not score because of the draw, my Denmark 1st does not cost me an extra goal, but my chain does break because of it!

This would secure the win for Shounokuni.

In slot 8 we would both have a loss, no extra goal scored for Shounokuni

And finally in slot 9 Shounokuni's Denmark 2nd gets a loss because Denmark did not lead after the 2nd half, and his chain is broken by my Denmark ET (which counts as a draw because the game did not go to ET)

So if I did this correctly in your example Shounokuni would win by 2-0 and the game ended in regular time,  so no extra time rules would be applied....

 

 

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Okay, I don't think the Matrix covers all of the possibilities.

 

Try this for size....

Denmark are winning 3-0 at half-time.

Denmark wins the match 3-2 at full time.

(Matrix...)

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58 minutes ago, Jejima said:

Okay, I don't think the Matrix covers all of the possibilities.

 

Try this for size....

Denmark are winning 3-0 at half-time.

Denmark wins the match 3-2 at full time.

(Matrix...)

Yes, I think you broke the matrix! :-O

 

Godango's matrix method:

DNK wins at half time: choose his middle matrix.

It says - DNK Lead at Half-time => follow the right option.

DNK win OR draw after regular time => Chijanofuji Wins!

 

But by the manual method:

Slot 1 => 1-0 for Shounokuni's England (2nd) - but my chain does not break (because of my teams "C powers"!

Slot 2=> no extra score, both exactly the same.

Slot 3=> we both have a draw at that slot, Shounokuni's Denmark ET (C) powers mean he scores 2-0, but both chains remains unbroken.

Slots 4 and 5 we both would have draws here, no scores and both chains remains unbroken.

Slot 6 =>  no goals score, but Shounokuni's loss at that slot (England 1st) and my draw (Spain ET) -means his chain breaks and my chain remains unbroken.

Slot 7 => I score 2-1 because of Shounokuni's draw (Italy ET) and my win (Denmark 1st) at that slot (and my chain unbroken).

Slot 8 => we both have a win here, no change (and my chain unbroken).

Slot 9 => Shounokuni has a win here (Denmark 2nd), while I have a draw (Denmark ET, did not occur, so counts as a draw), - situation 8 - my chain breaks at the final slot, game over!

Final score would be 2-1 to Shounokuni, and the game does not go to extra time!

 

So yep, you're right!

Godango's matrix does not cover this situation!

 

Great catch, Jejima-san! (Applauding...)

 

Edited by Chijanofuji

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19 minutes ago, Chijanofuji said:

Yes, I think you broke the matrix! :-O

 

Godango's matrix method:

DNK wins at half time: choose his middle matrix.

It says - DNK Lead at Half-time => follow the right option.

DNK win OR draw after regular time => Chijanofuji Wins!

 

But by the manual method:

Slot 1 => 1-0 for Shounokuni's England (2nd) - but my chain does not break (because of my teams "C powers"!

Slot 2=> no extra score, both exactly the same.

Slot 3=> we both have a draw at that slot, Shounokuni's Denmark ET (C) powers mean he scores 2-0, but both chains remains unbroken.

Slots 4 and 5 we both would have draws here, no scores and both chains remains unbroken.

Slot 6 =>  no goals score, but Shounokuni's loss at that slot (England 1st) and my draw (Spain ET) -means his chain breaks and my chain remains unbroken.

Slot 7 => I score 2-1 because of Shounokuni's draw (Italy ET) and my win (Denmark 1st) at that slot (and my chain unbroken).

Slot 8 => we both have a win here, no change (and my chain unbroken).

Slot 9 => Shounokuni has a win here (Denmark 2nd), while I have a draw (Denmark ET, did not occur, so counts as a draw), - situation 8 - my chain breaks at the final slot, game over!

Final score would be 2-1 to Shounokuni, and the game does not go to extra time!

 

So yep, you're right!

Godango's matrix does not cover this situation!

 

Great catch, Jejima-san! (Applauding...)

 

When I I had a quick look earlier, I thought that that situation would end in a draw after extra time, and so penalties would be required...  I chose not to look too far down that rabbit hole, so I'm sure you're correct. 

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18 minutes ago, Jejima said:

When I I had a quick look earlier, I thought that that situation would end in a draw after extra time, and so penalties would be required...  I chose not to look too far down that rabbit hole, so I'm sure you're correct. 

No, I'm not correct. Not completely anyway..... :-D

I now see that I got slot 8 completely wrong as I forgot to change my Denmark 2nd to a loss....

At that slot Shounokuni has Denmark 1st - a win. I have Denmark 2nd - a loss. 

And as we're in situation 7 - that means my chain breaks there and the game ends. 

Still 2-1 to Shounokuni though.... ;-)

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Asked Shounokuni, whom I've been texting during matches this tournament, if losing the Saucer final would be an acceptable price to pay to see England play in the final. "Yes", came the instant reply.

"That's only because you're English", I said. "At least I've seen my national team win something before."

 

Shounokuni hasn't replied yet.

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The actual matches in Wembley have been way more entertaining than the results suggest. Let's see how our games were affected.

Bowl Semifinals Match 2:

Jejima               0:1     Pitinosato
(England)                    (Netherlands)
                             
England ® (2nd)   D  x:0  D  England (2nd)
England (1st)     D  x:1  W  England (ET)
Spain (ET)        D  x:0  D  England (1st)
Spain (2nd)       D  x:0  D  Italy (S1) (1st)
Italy (1st)       D  x:0  D  Italy (S1) (2nd)
Spain (1st)       D  x:0  D  Italy (S1) (ET)
Italy (ET)        D  x:0  D  Spain (ET)
Italy (2nd)       D  x:0  D  Spain (2nd)
England (ET)      W  x:0  D  Spain (1st)

Jejima's chain was broken right from the start due to his R-status, and Pitinosato utilized that advantage by scoring in slot 2, advancing to the Bowl finals with a 1:0 victory in regular time. But Jejima shouldn't fret all too much. I have it on good account that Pitinosato would have won the penalty shoot-out anyway if England didn't get lucky in extra time.

 

Cup Semifinals Match 2:

Godango              2:0     Djodjoyoshi
(Hungary)                    (Poland)
                             
England © (2nd)   D  1:0  D  England (S1) (2nd)
England (1st)     D  0:0  D  Italy (2nd)
England (ET)      W  1:0  D  England (S1) (1st)
Italy (ET)        D  0:0  D  Italy (1st)
Italy (1st)       D  0:0  D  Denmark (1st)
Italy (2nd)       D  0:0  D  Denmark (2nd)
Denmark (ET)      L  x:0  D  Italy (ET)
Denmark (1st)     D  x:x  L  Denmark (ET)
Denmark (2nd)     D  x:x  W  England (S1) (ET)

Unlike Jejima above, Godango actually benefitted from the special team in slot one, scoring a goal with his C-Team. Another goal in slot 3 sealed the deal, letting him advance to the Cup finals with a 2:0 victory in regular time - congratulations, and good luck there! And good luck to Djodjoyoshi for winning a different kind of silverware instead.

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