pricklypomegranate 730 Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) Great endurance and absolutely inspired sumo from Enho today. One of Enho's best. I thought he would be absolutely crushed when he was caught under Akua, but Enho resisted this and somehow found the strength within him to bodyslam his opponent. It seems like the ritual is working. Hakuho really, really wanted to fight and so possessed his student successfully. Truly commendable. Edited March 22, 2021 by pricklypomegranate 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 1,264 Posted March 22, 2021 URA kyujo, just announced on TV Japan. I don't understand Japanese so I don't know any details. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,087 Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, sumojoann said: URA kyujo, just announced on TV Japan. I don't understand Japanese so I don't know any details. Picked up in the Rikishi status thread; he has a pulled calf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,787 Posted March 22, 2021 With the Ozeki floundering and already having gotten past Terunofuji, this is Takayasu's basho to lose. I hope he doesn't lose it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,079 Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, pricklypomegranate said: Great endurance and absolutely inspired sumo from Enho today. One of Enho's best. I thought he would be absolutely crushed when he was caught under Akua, but Enho resisted this and somehow found the strength within him to bodyslam his opponent. It seems like the ritual is working. Hakuho really, really wanted to fight and so possessed his student successfully. Truly commendable. Interesting lead up to the Enho v. Akua bout today. First, Kyokushuho handed frontrunner Chiyomaru a costly loss. Then, just before Enho's bout, stablemate Ishiura defeated Churanoumi, moving the former into an 8-way tie for the lead. While waiting for his bout, Enho served Ishiura the power water. After winning, Ishiura had to stick around to serve power water ... to Enho – transferring all his good "winning" luck in the process. Quite a coincidence that stablemates in a Division end up fighting in two successive matches, fighting from the same side, and both winning, thus allowing the mutual power water serving. There was huge pressure on Enho to see if he could work his magic and pull ahead of the pack. Sure enough, he pulls off a fairly rare tsuriotoshi victory! Nice to see him bounce back from the loss yesterday against Ura (although not nice to learn that Ura had to withdraw)... Edited March 22, 2021 by Amamaniac 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pricklypomegranate 730 Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Amamaniac said: Interesting lead up to the Enho v. Akua bout today. First, Kyokushuho handed frontrunner Chiyomaru a costly loss. Then, just before Enho's bout, stablemate Ishiura defeated Churanoumi, moving the former into a 8-way tie for the lead. While waiting for his bout, Enho served Ishiura the power water. After winning, Ishiura had to stick around to serve power water ... to Enho – transferring all his good "winning" luck in the process. Quite a coincidence that stablemates in a Division end up fighting in two successive matches, fighting from the same side, and both winning, thus allowing the mutual power water serving. There was huge pressure on Enho to see if he could work his magic and pull ahead of the pack. Sure enough, he pulls off a fairly rare tsuriotoshi victory! Nice to see him bounce back from the loss yesterday against Ura (although not nice to learn that Ura had to withdraw)... The coincidences continue. Last time a tsuriotoshi was performed in Juryo was by Mainoumi - though Mainoumi concedes that Enho lifted a much heavier opponent. Ishiura also a joy to watch this basho - he relied on henka a lot less. And today, he had a near perfect tachiai. 90 degrees, hit hard, straight on. Edited March 22, 2021 by pricklypomegranate 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,087 Posted March 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, pricklypomegranate said: The coincidences continue. Last time a tsuriotoshi was performed in Juryo was by Mainoumi - though Mainoumi concedes that Enho lifted a much heavier opponent. Ishiura also a joy to watch this basho - he relied on henka a lot less. And today, he had a near perfect tachiai. 90 degrees, hit hard, straight on. My gut instinct is that Enho now holds the record for largest unfavourable weight difference in a tsukiotoshi win, although the effort to prove that is a bit more than I would like without my own copy of the db. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,969 Posted March 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: ...without my own copy of the db. Don't fret, the weight values in the db are severely outdated anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,087 Posted March 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: Don't fret, the weight values in the db are severely outdated anyway. 50 values is still doable by hand, but there are a lot of customised searches I'd like to make easier if I could download and organise the db as a separate SQL copy. Procrastination's a bitch, though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,087 Posted March 22, 2021 33 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: 40 minutes ago, pricklypomegranate said: The coincidences continue. Last time a tsuriotoshi was performed in Juryo was by Mainoumi - though Mainoumi concedes that Enho lifted a much heavier opponent. Ishiura also a joy to watch this basho - he relied on henka a lot less. And today, he had a near perfect tachiai. 90 degrees, hit hard, straight on. My gut instinct is that Enho now holds the record for largest unfavourable weight difference in a tsukiotoshi win, although the effort to prove that is a bit more than I would like without my own copy of the db. I haven't the time to complete the search (query here: Bout query result (sumogames.de)) but Enho is in illustrious company. Only 3 other rikishi I've seen so far have won by tsuriotoshi while under 100kg and against a heavier opponent: Wakanami, Chiyonofuji, and Mainoumi. Enho's the only one to have beaten an opponent over 60 kilos heavier than he is; the next most on my admittedly fragmentary dataset is Mutsuarashi with 37 kilos difference. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seregost 132 Posted March 22, 2021 I'm still afraid of Takayasu. I know Shodai is fighting bad, and Takakeisho is not exactly "crushing" it, but both of them have given Takayasu many problems in the last two years. Anyhow, the ex-ozeki is doing his best sumo in ages: calm, patient, and close to the floor, I mean, with his hips lower than usual. He has been my favourite since I came back to sumo, but many times he fights like a bear dancing with a tambourine in a gipsy camp. Now finally, and maybe thanks to Kisenosato, he's much more compact and with a low center of gravity. And his injuries are finally behind him. I hope he can keep this flow up and get his first well deserved yusho. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted March 22, 2021 Akiseyama v Aoiyama really should come with a NSFW warning. 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted March 22, 2021 Pleased to see Daieisho picking up wins now after a tough start. Still hopeful he can pull off a KK. Tomorrow he faces Hokutofuji who is on a similar run of form. Should be a good one. They’re 6-6 in the H2H. Wakatakakage is quietly building a case for a sanyaku debut, if a slot becomes available (far from guaranteed right now). 5-4 and he’s got a softer schedule ahead of him this week having already faced the Ozeki, Sekiwake and one of the Komusubi. Midorifuji’s kainahineri today was the first in Makuuchi since Nov 2019 and only 113th overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,087 Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Eikokurai said: Wakatakakage is quietly building a case for a sanyaku debut, if a slot becomes available (far from guaranteed right now). 5-4 and he’s got a softer schedule ahead of him this week having already faced the Ozeki, Sekiwake and one of the Komusubi. If Daieisho rallies sufficiently, only a winout will put hard questions to the banzuke committee; given that Wakatakakage is likely booked against Takayasu soon, I don't expect him to do so. As it is, even if Terunofuji is repromoted (quite likely, but not an absolute), Daieisho's extra Komusubi slot means that there's no lower sanyaku vacuum that needs to be filled unless one of the komusubi ends with an MK. Daieisho looks to be rallying, and Mitakeumi is rarely inconsistent to the point of dropping out of sanyaku altogether. Hokutofuji is also putting up better numbers from a marginally superior rank. It's much more likely that Hokutofuji and Wakatakakage are going to wind up as the M1 pair next basho. To take the counterfactual, if Hokutofuji and Wakatakakage were to be put up to form an extra K2 pair, then the next M1 would be 5-4 M3 Meisei and 5-4 M4 Myogiryu. The next promotees are M5 Endo and M6 Tamawashi and Ichinojo. Onosho would still be quite leniently demoted if all of these are shoved upwards to fill the joi vacuum caused by extra sanyaku slots, which is already likely to be an overpromotion. Edited March 22, 2021 by Seiyashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: If Daieisho rallies sufficiently, only a winout will put hard questions to the banzuke committee; given that Wakatakakage is likely booked against Takayasu soon, I don't expect him to do so. As it is, even if Terunofuji is repromoted (quite likely, but not an absolute), Daieisho's extra Komusubi slot means that there's no lower sanyaku vacuum that needs to be filled unless one of the komusubi ends with an MK. Daieisho looks to be rallying, and Mitakeumi is rarely inconsistent to the point of dropping out of sanyaku altogether. Hokutofuji is also putting up better numbers from a marginally superior rank. It's much more likely that Hokutofuji and Wakatakakage are going to wind up as the M1 pair next basho. To take the counterfactual, if Hokutofuji and Wakatakakage were to be put up to form an extra K2 pair, then the next M1 would be 5-4 M3 Meisei and 5-4 M4 Myogiryu. The next promotees are M5 Endo and M6 Tamawashi and Ichinojo. Onosho would still be quite leniently demoted if all of these are shoved upwards to fill the joi vacuum caused by extra sanyaku slots, which is already likely to be an overpromotion. That’s more or less how I see it too. I don’t see them doing enough to force any extra slots (especially given how they refused to make a Sekiwake one for an actual yusho-winning 13-2 from the same position for Daieisho). If only Daieisho MK’s that will be it—his slot will simply close. But if he and Mitakeumi both MK, then Hokutofuji and Wakatakakage become the two currently best-placed candidates for Mita’s slot, which could be settled in a H2H bout later in the basho if they need separating. Both could easily be on 6-4 tomorrow after facing Daieisho and Takarafuji (1-8). Edited March 22, 2021 by Eikokurai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,087 Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Eikokurai said: That’s more or less how I see it too. I don’t see them doing enough to force any extra slots (especially given how they refused to make a Sekiwake one for an actual yusho-winning 13-2 from the same position for Daieisho). If only Daieisho MK’s that will be it—his slot will simply close. But if he and Mitakeumi both MK, then Hokutofuji and Wakatakakage become the two currently best-placed candidates for Mita’s slot, which could be settled in a H2H bout later in the basho if they need separating. Both could easily be on 6-4 tomorrow after facing Daieisho and Takarafuji (1-8). If Daieisho or Mitakeumi MK then Hokutofuji will promote. I think it is highly reasonable to assume that Terunofuji will be repromoted and Takayasu will take his Sekiwake slot; that leaves 2 komusubi and if one of them MKs against a 9-6 or better M2 I don't see how they justify not promoting the M2. Edited March 22, 2021 by Seiyashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted March 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Seiyashi said: If Daieisho or Mitakeumi MK then Hokutofuji will promote. I think it is highly reasonable to assume that Terunofuji will be repromoted and Takayasu will take his Sekiwake slot; that leaves 2 komusubi and if one of them MKs against a 9-6 or better M2 I don't see how they justify not promoting the M2. Right, I was forgetting to account for the extra Sekiwake slot with Teru moving up. As for who’d go up between Hokutofuji and Wakatakakage, that remains to be seen. Hokutofuji’s half-rank advantage isn’t enough to offset an extra loss, so if Waka gets 10-5 to a Hoku 9-6, Waka gets the nod, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,087 Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, Eikokurai said: Right, I was forgetting to account for the extra Sekiwake slot with Teru moving up. As for who’d go up between Hokutofuji and Wakatakakage, that remains to be seen. Hokutofuji’s half-rank advantage isn’t enough to offset an extra loss, so if Waka gets 10-5 to a Hoku 9-6, Waka gets the nod, IMO. Yep. Hence the vague statement of the M2, because between the two of them it's more than likely that 1 will garner the requisite score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,840 Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Eikokurai said: Akiseyama v Aoiyama really should come with a NSFW warning. Hard to tell whether that was two Mountains or four hills. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,969 Posted March 22, 2021 @Seiyashi @Eikokurai All moot, because I expect neither of the current Sanyaku to go MK. That's the logjam you get with a prolonged absence of the top dogs. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted March 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: @Seiyashi @Eikokurai All moot, because I expect neither of the current Sanyaku to go MK. That's the logjam you get with a prolonged absence of the top dogs. Maybe moot. We don’t know yet. ;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seregost 132 Posted March 22, 2021 And, if Terunofuji doesn't get promoted (although I'm sure he will), how many wins should Takayasu pile to regain his old sekiwake slot forcing an extra one? Those times when he was wearing that light grey mawashi. 10, 11? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,087 Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, Seregost said: And, if Terunofuji doesn't get promoted (although I'm sure he will), how many wins should Takayasu pile to regain his old sekiwake slot forcing an extra one? Those times when he was wearing that light grey mawashi. 10, 11? 11 is the standard to force an extra slot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,087 Posted March 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Eikokurai said: 17 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: @Seiyashi @Eikokurai All moot, because I expect neither of the current Sanyaku to go MK. That's the logjam you get with a prolonged absence of the top dogs. Maybe moot. We don’t know yet. ;) I mean, hypothetically, if Mitakeumi looks this bad in week 1... but I think this means we all agree it's most likely Hokutofuji and Wakatakakage as M1 next basho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 994 Posted March 22, 2021 Akua's post-match bow was the biggest I've seen - and a well deserved one at that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites