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https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20210111/p2a/00m/0sp/009000c

 

Very enlightening.

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Ring names held by yokozuna are referred to as "tomena" names, and they're withdrawn from use after the wrestler retires from the ring. Except for those who inherit the names as disciples, no other sumo wrestlers can take them.

Tomena are the names that are not reused, not the shikona of yokozuna, although the former is mostly a subset of the latter.

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57 minutes ago, sahaven111 said:

Huh. The database doesn't have a record for any Hifumiyama, Hero, or Dekoboko...

Meiji-era rikishi had very strange names.

 

Highlights include but are not limited to:

電気灯 光之助 - Denkitou (Electric Lamp) Kounosuke

自転車 早吉 - Jitensha (Bicycle) Sakichi

一二三山 四五六 - Hifumiyama Yogoroku (123mountain 456)

武蔵坊 弁慶 - Musashibou Benkei

ヒーロー 市松 - Hero Ichimatsu

貫 透 - Tsuranuki Tooru (Pierce Through)

馬鹿の 勇介 - Bakanoyuusuke (Yuusuke the Moron)

兎角 是非内  - Tokaku Zehinai (There's No Getting Around It)

不了簡綾丸 - Furyouken Ayamaru (I apologize for my careless behavior)

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1 hour ago, sahaven111 said:

Huh. The database doesn't have a record for any Hifumiyama, Hero, or Dekoboko...

I've spot Hifumiyama and Hero on the unusual shikona list at the wiki in Japanese; maybe someone can translate the whole thing better than online translators:

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/四股名#変わった四股名

still can't find them on the database

 

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3 hours ago, Totorofuji said:

I've spot Hifumiyama and Hero on the unusual shikona list at the wiki in Japanese

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/四股名#変わった四股名

still can't find them on the database 

These old, odd shikona usually are not from higher ranked rikishi of the past and thus not in the database, especially not the Hifumi-1-2-3 type ones

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2 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

These old, odd shikona usually are not from higher ranked rikishi of the past and thus not in the database, especially not the Hifumi-1-2-3 type ones

If they're not from the past, wouldn't that make it more likely they're in the db?

I think this one, 三ッ△ 鶴吉, is the most intriguing given the triangle in the middle, but i'm not an expert in Japanese reading...

Although, i'm trying to keep this going as it is a very interesting topic.

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15 hours ago, sahaven111 said:

If they're not from the past, wouldn't that make it more likely they're in the db?

I think this one, 三ッ△ 鶴吉, is the most intriguing given the triangle in the middle, but i'm not an expert in Japanese reading...

Although, i'm trying to keep this going as it is a very interesting topic.

Agreed. I've always wanted to know more about the different meanings of the shikona.

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Here's an interesting wikipedia article about shikona  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikona 

I found it especially interesting that shikona for the Mongolian wrestlers often incorporate words that mean a lot in their culture, like eagle, horse, wolf and dragon.

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Here is a really old thread (from 2003) with shikona meanings but it's so interesting I decided to post it  http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/1315-shikona-meanings/

The following thread is from 2015 and is part 2 to the original thread (see above) about shikona meanings  http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/33875-shikona-meanings-take-2/?tab=comments#comment-278281

 

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