Gaijingai 529 Posted Monday at 22:48 https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20210111/p2a/00m/0sp/009000c Very enlightening. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamitsuumi 82 Posted Tuesday at 04:09 Quote Ring names held by yokozuna are referred to as "tomena" names, and they're withdrawn from use after the wrestler retires from the ring. Except for those who inherit the names as disciples, no other sumo wrestlers can take them. Tomena are the names that are not reused, not the shikona of yokozuna, although the former is mostly a subset of the latter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sahaven111 77 Posted Tuesday at 22:43 Huh. The database doesn't have a record for any Hifumiyama, Hero, or Dekoboko... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mugatake 3 Posted Tuesday at 23:29 (edited) 57 minutes ago, sahaven111 said: Huh. The database doesn't have a record for any Hifumiyama, Hero, or Dekoboko... Meiji-era rikishi had very strange names. Highlights include but are not limited to: 電気灯 光之助 - Denkitou (Electric Lamp) Kounosuke 自転車 早吉 - Jitensha (Bicycle) Sakichi 一二三山 四五六 - Hifumiyama Yogoroku (123mountain 456) 武蔵坊 弁慶 - Musashibou Benkei ヒーロー 市松 - Hero Ichimatsu 貫 透 - Tsuranuki Tooru (Pierce Through) 馬鹿の 勇介 - Bakanoyuusuke (Yuusuke the Moron) 兎角 是非内 - Tokaku Zehinai (There's No Getting Around It) 不了簡綾丸 - Furyouken Ayamaru (I apologize for my careless behavior) Edited Tuesday at 23:43 by mugatake 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Totorofuji 8 Posted Wednesday at 00:11 (edited) 1 hour ago, sahaven111 said: Huh. The database doesn't have a record for any Hifumiyama, Hero, or Dekoboko... I've spot Hifumiyama and Hero on the unusual shikona list at the wiki in Japanese; maybe someone can translate the whole thing better than online translators: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/四股名#変わった四股名 still can't find them on the database Edited Wednesday at 00:12 by Totorofuji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,006 Posted Wednesday at 04:07 3 hours ago, Totorofuji said: I've spot Hifumiyama and Hero on the unusual shikona list at the wiki in Japanese https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/四股名#変わった四股名 still can't find them on the database These old, odd shikona usually are not from higher ranked rikishi of the past and thus not in the database, especially not the Hifumi-1-2-3 type ones 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sahaven111 77 Posted Wednesday at 06:16 (edited) 2 hours ago, Akinomaki said: These old, odd shikona usually are not from higher ranked rikishi of the past and thus not in the database, especially not the Hifumi-1-2-3 type ones If they're not from the past, wouldn't that make it more likely they're in the db? I think this one, 三ッ△ 鶴吉, is the most intriguing given the triangle in the middle, but i'm not an expert in Japanese reading... Although, i'm trying to keep this going as it is a very interesting topic. Edited Wednesday at 06:19 by sahaven111 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seregost 18 Posted Wednesday at 21:39 15 hours ago, sahaven111 said: If they're not from the past, wouldn't that make it more likely they're in the db? I think this one, 三ッ△ 鶴吉, is the most intriguing given the triangle in the middle, but i'm not an expert in Japanese reading... Although, i'm trying to keep this going as it is a very interesting topic. Agreed. I've always wanted to know more about the different meanings of the shikona. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
