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2021 "Kozumo" Hatsu Basho discussion thread

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1 hour ago, robnplunder said:

Hmmm.  I think it is time for Kak to hang up his mawashi.   

His Oyakata says the March basho will be do or die time for him. 

But in the meantime, let's get ready for yet another no-ko-zuna basho. 

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2 hours ago, Kaninoyama said:

His Oyakata says the March basho will be do or die time for him. 

But in the meantime, let's get ready for yet another no-ko-zuna basho. 

That's a bit of a strange statement from the oyakata seeing as Kakuryu is very clearly at the end of the line. But what else can he say I guess. I wonder if Kakuryu will bother to wear the mawashi on the dohyo once more. 

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This is getting ridiculous... 

September: ”November will be do-or-die for him. ”

November: kyujo. ”January will be do-or-die...”

January: kyujo. ”March will be...”

Repeat indefintely...?

I say the time to cut the cord is now. 

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Already 2 p.m. in Central Europe and still neither Day 1 Torikumi nor information regarding absent Rikishi announced.... Did I miss some statement here? Seems as if they are still discussing whether to compete or to cancel the whole Ba-show.

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1 minute ago, Ganzohnesushi said:

Already 2 p.m. in Central Europe and still neither Day 1 Torikumi nor information regarding absent Rikishi announced.... Did I miss some statement here?

The torikumi can't be decided until the results of all of the Covid tests are known. Should be tomorrow. 

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51 minutes ago, Ganzohnesushi said:

Did I miss some statement here?

obviously

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Posted (edited)

During the Pandemic both Yokozuna should heal> Yokozuna privilege' not given to lessor rikishi.

 

Edited by gunner

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Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, dingo said:

That's a bit of a strange statement from the oyakata seeing as Kakuryu is very clearly at the end of the line. But what else can he say I guess. I wonder if Kakuryu will bother to wear the mawashi on the dohyo once more. 

Oyakata's words:

"Only he (Kakuryu) knows (his body's condition) so I cannot say this or that to him, but I told him there is no "next." He also said he will put intai on the line and gambarize at forging a body that can get back to doing keiko as soon as possible." 

Edited by Kaninoyama

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Kakuryu has one more chance to save his career - if there's a chance he'll be in better condition in March than now then it's the right decision. 

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24 minutes ago, ryafuji said:

Kakuryu has one more chance to save his career - if there's a chance he'll be in better condition in March than now then it's the right decision. 

Reading all the other info that's been shared on this forum it seems like there's no saving his career anymore, just putting a fitting end to it.

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Kakuryu is 35 and hasn't completed 5 tournaments in one year since 2017. Even if he comes back in March, do we really expect him to be able to make May and July?

Hakuho got an "out" this basho, but it's the same story. The odds of him making some miraculous non-covid recovery back into full-time status aren't looking good.

Someone like a Tamawashi has had 160 more matches Hakuho and 178 more matches than Kakuryu since 2017. It's beyond unfair.

Edited by rzombie1988
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I think it is pretty much curtains for Kakuryu, and it's a good thing. I like him a lot and I was really happy when he experienced somewhat of a resurgence in 2018 and partly 2019, I'm also happy he got everything in order.

I would love for him to have one more good tournament before he rides into the sunset, I just can't see it. 

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5 minutes ago, sahaven111 said:

I heard a Jonidan retired because of Covid, who was it?

Kotokantetsu. He asked to go kyujo to avoid Covid exposure but they wouldn't let him so he retired.

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1 minute ago, code_number3 said:

Well it looks like on top of Miyagino beya and Arasio beya, Kokonoe and Tomozuna beya are also done at least.

Maybe more if other covid heya didn't have sekitori.

If this basho actually goes ahead its gonna be really weird. Seems silly.

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Definitely will be weird because since these people are being prevented from competing, those rankings will stay the same for them.

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Posted (edited)

The Makuuchi Juryo exchange bouts should be strange as well, since there's an odd number in Makuuchi but 7 of the top 10 Juryo rikishi aren't going to make it to the basho.

I guess if the number in Juryo drop below enough rikishi to get 15 matches for everyone left they just start invading Makushita?

Edited by Tsuchinoninjin

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7 out of the top 10 ranked Juryo rikishi are missing.

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As much as I enjoy watching the basho, I think the basho should be canceled.   

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Posted (edited)

Yeah, I know they need money badly, but I can't even feel much interest in a basho this devastatingly depleted. And that's to say nothing of the health risks, of course.

edit: Also sneaking into the kyujo deluge - Toyohibiki (the end?), and Shishi.

Edited by yohcun

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