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Until today, Midorifuji has been sporting almost cast like wrappings (especially on his right hand/wrist).  Today they were suddenly replaced with barely a bracelet of tape.  He won today, so a good move.

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23 minutes ago, dada78641 said:

By the way, am I the only one who thinks it's hilarious when the monoii announcement is done as awkwardly as in Hokutofuji's match?

"The referee pointed his fan to Kotoshoho, but we wanted to discuss whether his hand touched down early. We found that it did, [Hokutofuji realizes he's won and starts walking up the dohyo] and so we reverse the referee's decision and therefore... ... ... ..."

[Hokutofuji stops walking towards the dohyo, looking confused]

"...huh? ... ... ...and therefore give the victory the Hokutofuji."

Had to be Nishikido Oyakata, right (moto-Mitoizumi)? He wasn't on camera.

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7 hours ago, robnplunder said:

OMG!   Daieisho just destroyed Terunofuji.  I am sticking with the former's yusho prediction.   

At this moment I agree - this is Daieisho's yusho to lose, considering his opponents so far.

If Daieisho goes 7-0 as M1: only done twice before in the modern era, one of which was none other than the bewildered head shimpan.

If Daieisho goes 8-0 as M1: unprecedented.

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5 hours ago, Morty said:

His sumo style means there is just a whisker between "mostly unbeatable" and "pretty easy to beat" if he is just a little bit off. There is no real margin for error. Usually the first push shoves his aite upright and off balance and the second one shoves them backwards. That first shove isn't working and Plan B (the sideways shove) is off too. It could just be he's out of form and his timing is off?

I thought this as well about push specialists, almost like downhill skiiers that wins are measured in 0.01 seconds. Diaeshou is on fire and has been the Ozeki killer for years now, but I feel he may just have better wax on his skis right now, so to speak. 

 

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2 hours ago, Kashunowaka said:
2 hours ago, dada78641 said:

By the way, am I the only one who thinks it's hilarious when the monoii announcement is done as awkwardly as in Hokutofuji's match?

"The referee pointed his fan to Kotoshoho, but we wanted to discuss whether his hand touched down early. We found that it did, [Hokutofuji realizes he's won and starts walking up the dohyo] and so we reverse the referee's decision and therefore... ... ... ..."

[Hokutofuji stops walking towards the dohyo, looking confused]

"...huh? ... ... ...and therefore give the victory the Hokutofuji."

Had to be Nishikido Oyakata, right (moto-Mitoizumi)? He wasn't on camera.

Actually he didn't say "we reverse the referee's decision" but erroneously called it gunbai-dori. That's what made Hokutofuji stop.

And it wasn't Nishikido but Takadagawa (moto-Akinoshima).

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Ozeki Watch for Day 7

Two more disappointments on Day 6 have many sumo fans scratching their heads.  In the 2021 New Year Tournament, there are three wrestlers holding the second highest rank of Ozeki.  One won the last championship in November and was slated for Yokozuna promotion in January, and the other two were kadoban, at risk of losing their elite status.  In an ideal world (perhaps), the one slated for promotion should be tearing up the competition, and the other two should be racking up the wins necessary (8) to avoid demotion.  After six days, things look terrible for the Yokozuna wannabe, troubling for one of the kadoban candidates, and reassuring for the other.  A good result for one out of the three is better than none out of the three.  But the tournament isn't over yet, and in sumo, anything can happen.

In the next potentially head-scratching day, Asanoyama (the Bad) will face rookie Kotoshoho.  Despite being crowned Top Division Rookie of 2020, Kotoshoho (0-6) has been struggling and struggling hard.  These two men have never met in official competition.  Fair to say, this should be a gift for Asanoyama.  Asanoyama needs five wins out of his next nine bouts, and the sooner the better.  Furthermore, he is fighting for his honour on the basis of having more Top Division experience.  But one would like to think Kotoshoho will win one of his bouts this tournament, and this is his last shot at an Ozeki scalp.  Asanoyama needs to bring his A game, and all should be well.

Next up will be Shodai (the Good) facing Onosho.  This will be something of a toss up.  These two sekitori have met four times with an equal record of 2-2.  On closer examination, however, one of Onosho's "wins" was actually a fusen default win, so we are really talking about 2-1.  Onosho has been fighting well this tournament, and is coming off a "not-a-huge" upset over Takakeisho.  Even if that were not a major accomplishment, there is some momentum behind it.  But Shodai is still very much in the championship race, and so he will be doing everything he can to stay as close to Daieisho/Akiseyama as possible.  Recently, Shodai has been relying on last-minute saves.  He actually is quite good at them.  The trouble, however, is they don't always work...  Despite that concern, Shodai is still favoured to win this one.

And in the final bout of the day, Takakeisho (the Ugly) will face Tochonoshin.  At this point, the not-to-be-73rd-Yokozuna could lose to Hattorizakura, and few eyebrows would rise.  Past meetings favour Takakeisho (8-3, i.e., 8-2), but the Georgian did win in their last showdown back in September.  If Tochinoshin is going to defy the odds again, this would be one of those times.  The way both men are fighting in this tournament, I would argue that Tochinoshin actually has the edge.  Takakeisho is now 1-5 and needs 7 of his 9 remaining bouts to avoid going kadoban.  Is that "desperation" I smell?

Grab your zabuton, and get ready to toss.

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3 hours ago, Kashunowaka said:

If Daieisho goes 7-0 as M1: only done twice before in the modern era, one of which was none other than the bewildered head shimpan.

If Daieisho goes 8-0 as M1: unprecedented.

Daieisho's opponent on day 7 is Takanosho who can beat Daieisho to boost his own yusho chance.   Although I predict Daieisho's yusho, it won't be easy.

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I'm convinced there has got to be something physically wrong with Takakeisho, even if he's just dead tired or something. There's no way he would lose bouts like this and end up 1-5 after six days by just mental issues or bad timing. He's not generating any power at the tachiai and his thrusts have no effect. Kyujo would be a good idea at this point. 

I think it's still way too early to give the yusho to Daieisho. The basho's not even halfway through yet and Shodai seems to have found his groove. Of course there's still bread boy/molten candle /Akiseyama. :-P

Asanoyama on the other hand is a good example of mental block. He will struggle to get his 8 wins. Don't see him getting more at this point, maybe 9 at best.

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18 minutes ago, dingo said:

He's not generating any power

Yep, I've been thinking the same thing - he's just not inflicting the power hits that have seen his opponents reeling backwards in previous bouts.

Despite the current basho, I do think that Takakeisho has inspired a number of the oshi guys. I'm sure that many an oshi guy has recently looked at Takakeisho and said to themselves, 'oshi works, oshi-zumo can get me to the top'.

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3 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Actually he didn't say "we reverse the referee's decision" but erroneously called it gunbai-dori. That's what made Hokutofuji stop.

And it wasn't Nishikido but Takadagawa (moto-Akinoshima).

You misheard him. He said "gyoji gunbai sashichigae de..." and then he stopped.

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33 minutes ago, dada78641 said:

You misheard him. He said "gyoji gunbai sashichigae de..." and then he stopped.

Indeed. Takadagawa paused for a while after saying it was a sashi-chigae, probably trying to recall Hokutofuji's name. Ross Mihara on the English side got it wrong - he thought the initial gunbai went to Hokutofuji.

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21 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

Indeed. Takadagawa paused for a while after saying it was a sashi-chigae, probably trying to recall Hokutofuji's name. Ross Mihara on the English side got it wrong - he thought the initial gunbai went to Hokutofuji. 

Thanks. I need to get back to the guy relaying the speech in the chatroom because I was watching without audio. (Sigh...)

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1 hour ago, Jakusotsu said:

Thanks. I need to get back to the guy relaying the speech in the chatroom because I was watching without audio. (Sigh...)

What is there to appreciate about sumo when watching a Tochinoshin bout without sound?

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14 hours ago, dada78641 said:

By the way, am I the only one who thinks it's hilarious when the monoii announcement is done as awkwardly as in Hokutofuji's match?

"The referee pointed his fan to Kotoshoho, but we wanted to discuss whether his hand touched down early. We found that it did, [Hokutofuji realizes he's won and starts walking up the dohyo] and so we reverse the referee's decision and therefore... ... ... ..."

[Hokutofuji stops walking towards the dohyo, looking confused]

"...huh? ... ... ...and therefore give the victory the Hokutofuji."

I couldn't understand much of the Japanese but definitely sensed something was wrong when Takadagawa hesitated and Hokutofuji seemed bemused - but once I heard "Sashi-chigae" and not "Gumbai dori" I was like, "That's all I have to hear folks, have a nice evening." (Laughing...)

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At last Inosuke is doing the kaobure gonjo in the break after the dohyo-iri - I thought they dropped that because the torikumi are so late lately

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Murray mentioning "various sumo forums in English". Awesome!

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I like Ura's form in juryo.  He looks strong enough to compete in Makuuchi.  Midorifuji is proving he is just as good if not better than Enho.  

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Daieisho! Seven sanyaku faced. Seven sanyaku beaten. A clean sweep.

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Holy cow! Monster tachi-ai from Daiesho.  I think he pushed out the side of my TV.

 

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When will Tochinoshin learn how to fight Takakeisho? He does the same thing every time and every time he gets smashed backwards. Try some sideways movement man!

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39 minutes ago, robnplunder said:

I like Ura's form in juryo.  He looks strong enough to compete in Makuuchi.  Midorifuji is proving he is just as good if not better than Enho.  

Midorifuji is here stealing all the little rikishis' thunder, not just Enho. Very interesting to see how he fares in the joi - that seems to be the "dead zone" for Enho, Terutsuyoshi, Ura, Ishiura, etc. 

27 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

Daieisho! Seven sanyaku faced. Seven sanyaku beaten. A clean sweep.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the sanyaku's scalps have all been officially taken by Daieisho. With Akiseyama taken out by an on-point Ichinojo, Daieisho is sole leader. Chances are even good this guy is going to do a zensho. I will be watching intently to see if his focus holds up into week 2. 

2 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

When will Tochinoshin learn how to fight Takakeisho? He does the same thing every time and every time he gets smashed backwards. Try some sideways movement man!

In this particular bout it's not so much being smashed backwards. Tochinoshin attempted a kachiage that heightened his centre of gravity and made him easier for a bowling ball like Takakeisho to knock him down. It's a bit of poetic justice when rikishi lose miserably attempting such tactics. I know Hakuho makes the kachiage and harite look easy, but it's a really risky and difficult move to pull off correctly. 

Awesome throw by Takarafuji and Hoshoryu seems to be recovering. However, Kotoshoho continues to frustrate. Will it be a nakabi MK for the rising star? 

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34 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

Daieisho! Seven sanyaku faced. Seven sanyaku beaten. A clean sweep.

Unreal.   Mr. consistency deserves the yusho.

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2 minutes ago, pricklypomegranate said:

Midorifuji is here stealing all the little rikishis' thunder, not just Enho. Very interesting to see how he fares in the joi - that seems to be the "dead zone" for Enho, Terutsuyoshi, Ura, Ishiura, etc.

 

To give Ura the credit, he shot up to the M4 (M12-M10->M4) position and his fall only came after the injury.   If not for the injury, I think he may have been a regular in Makuuchi.

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This was actually a pretty satisfying day.  Almost everyone that should have won, won.  The only sad note was Akiseyama losing his bout (and share of the lead) to Mongolian monster, Ichinojo.  I started worrying when I saw Akiseyama get OCD about the salt around the shikirisen.  That was a clear break in his regular routine.  Then shortly after the tachiai, he started getting too eager instead of sticking to his patient game.  I guess the hype finally got to him.  

He'll always have days 1 through 6! ;-) 

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