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Hokuseiho - Shot at a record?

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15 hours ago, pricklypomegranate said:

New information about Hokuseiho was revealed during the Hakuho documentary which aired today at 1530 JST. If I come across a copy, I will update the post here.

[whisper] I see you found a copy, but I do have the ability to rip things off TV, so if there's ever anything interesting sumo related that needs to be saved for posterity, I am available. (I'll try to check my DMs a bit more often than almost never...) Just had a look at the Hakuho doc and mine's in just slightly higher quality than on bilibili. [/whisper]

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6 hours ago, rhyen said:

You are a goddamn genius. I was searching bilibili but didn't see it coming out. Thanks. 

2 hours ago, dada78641 said:

[whisper] I see you found a copy, but I do have the ability to rip things off TV, so if there's ever anything interesting sumo related that needs to be saved for posterity, I am available. (I'll try to check my DMs a bit more often than almost never...) Just had a look at the Hakuho doc and mine's in just slightly higher quality than on bilibili. [/whisper]

I will definitely contact you should there be a new program we want to save. It's very difficult to get a hold of them outside Japan. 

6 hours ago, WAKATAKE said:

Hakuho without a mage is going to take some getting used to looking at

Place your bets for Hakuho's intai haircut. I don't think he will be going wavy hair like Araiso or Harumafuji. Maybe short cut? 

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5 hours ago, pricklypomegranate said:

You are a goddamn genius. I was searching bilibili but didn't see it coming out. Thanks. 

I will definitely contact you should there be a new program we want to save. It's very difficult to get a hold of them outside Japan. 

Place your bets for Hakuho's intai haircut. I don't think he will be going wavy hair like Araiso or Harumafuji. Maybe short cut? 

Try Kyokutenho slick back?

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8 hours ago, dada78641 said:

[whisper] I see you found a copy, but I do have the ability to rip things off TV, so if there's ever anything interesting sumo related that needs to be saved for posterity, I am available. (I'll try to check my DMs a bit more often than almost never...) Just had a look at the Hakuho doc and mine's in just slightly higher quality than on bilibili. [/whisper]

Put it on YouTube under some obscure title?

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12 hours ago, rhyen said:

Put it on YouTube under some obscure title?

Unfortunately that won't be enough to hide it, because the big TV networks are actually part of the Content ID program these days (not for all programs though, so I guess it's possible, but I assume it will get taken down eventually). I've occasionally ripped TV program segments for a friend's sento and sometimes they get taken down real quickly despite not having the program name anywhere.

I've uploaded it to the Internet Archive, which is far less of a target for takedowns. Let's see if it stays up there. My experience is that they don't really care about anything that isn't Youtube. You can download the original file from here too if you want.

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As stated in the thread 'lower division celebs results', record is snapped. This thread is over. (Laughing...)

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12 hours ago, pricklypomegranate said:

As stated in the thread 'lower division celebs results', record is snapped. This thread is over. (Laughing...)

Yes, as expected, but it was a nice run, nonetheless. 

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20 hours ago, dada78641 said:

Unfortunately that won't be enough to hide it, because the big TV networks are actually part of the Content ID program these days (not for all programs though, so I guess it's possible, but I assume it will get taken down eventually). I've occasionally ripped TV program segments for a friend's sento and sometimes they get taken down real quickly despite not having the program name anywhere.

I've uploaded it to the Internet Archive, which is far less of a target for takedowns. Let's see if it stays up there. My experience is that they don't really care about anything that isn't Youtube. You can download the original file from here too if you want.

Did not want to play for me when I just tried it, but no worries. I assume it is in Japanese so I'd not be getting more than a few words here and there anyway. 

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21 hours ago, Kaminariyuki said:

Did not want to play for me when I just tried it, but no worries. I assume it is in Japanese so I'd not be getting more than a few words here and there anyway. 

It should work, it's just a plain mp4 file in a <video> tag, but if it doesn't you can download the file itself under "download options" and play it locally.

But yeah, it is in Japanese. I've often thought it would be awesome if there was a collaborative online video subbing platform so communities could work together to sub things like this. But, I digress, I'm getting off-topic...

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11 hours ago, dada78641 said:

But, I digress, I'm getting off-topic...

Which is, "does the guy who lost on day 2 have a shot at the continuous wins record?"

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So now the pressure is on Murayama. Only 26 more wins needed for the record.

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9 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

So now the pressure is on Murayama. Only 26 more wins needed for the record.

Nishikawa has a slim chance too

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Posted (edited)

No record, but I think a solid showing for a 19 year old in his 4th basho, one that gives him more credibility than any of the individual zenshos did. And when someone in makushita can pull off a KK after starting with 2 or 3 losses I think it often shows some mental strength. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Katooshu said:

No record, but I think a solid showing for a 19 year old in his 4th basho, one that gives him more credibility than any of the individual zenshos did. And when someone can pull off a KK after starting with 2 or 3 losses I think it often suggests some mental strength.

Totally agree! He looked like he was in bad shape the first couple of matches but put together a string of wins, either by luck or strength. He could have easily lost his match yesterday after a slow tachiai but recovered quickly and took control. Wonder if he'll get another win?

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Reminder, the only person who had ever started 7-0, 7-0, 7-0 at Hokuseiho's age was future Ozeki Tochiazuma, who then went 3-4 at ms23e. Hokuseiho unfortunately drew Tokisakae for his first match in Makushita (currently 6-0), but now sits at 4-2 at ms15w. He's still on a phenomenal path. (Although he'll need to go back to 7-0 next basho to keep pace with the former Ozeki!)

As for that "slow tachiai" in his last match, I thought that was the most ridiculous matta, but it seems like the gyoji always gives up after calling two. Asakoki didn't even begin to move his hand towards the ground before charging early and he caught Hokuseiho right at the moment that he was beginning his own movement towards the ground.

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Maybe we should retitle this topic from "Shot at a record" to "Path to Sekitori/Makuuchi"!

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It would at least stop me from wondering what kind of record they shot him at...

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Posted (edited)

And the big man finishes 5-2, beating upper makushita mainstay Shiba with a yorikiri. 

Nice work Seiho! 5-2 at that rank is a very nice result for a 19 year old in his 4th basho.

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I didn't believe that Hokuseiho would go 7-0. I was hoping for a 6-1 but I thought that he would probably go 5-2. When I saw how taped up he was on day two for his first match, I was wondering if he could even finish the tournament!  Great job Hokuseiho!

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It is indeed surprising to me that he reached 5-2 without a viable tachiai. I suspect that his need to bend down constantly due to his height and his tendency to lift his opponent or their centre of gravity with his back is contributing to his back issues. To survive in Ms6 or Ms7, which I suspect he will be promoted to, he will need to heal his back so that he has at least a decent tachiai. If he at least replicates this score in his next promotion, he will be a sekitori in time for Hak's final outing in July (if he wins his 4D chess with the YDC). No promises that he won't be immediately booted out of Juryo ala Enho style though. 

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36 minutes ago, pricklypomegranate said:

It is indeed surprising to me that he reached 5-2 without a viable tachiai.

Hey, some other guys become next-ozeki that way! ;-)

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Posted (edited)

Another KK for the towering yorikiri machine, now 4-1 at Ms 9e. At this rate, even having missed a basho, he could make juryo while still a teenager...

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