September (Aki) Basho- offical thread (yay..)

[Amamaniac 2,078]

6 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

Whether Asanoyama sneaks up on the inside or Takakeisho maintains his (co)lead, the chances of an Ozeki yusho are looking very good. 

Takakeisho is in the driver's seat right now, with a one-win lead on fellow Ozeki Asanoyama.  If both men maintain their current winning ways, the final day showdown will be decisive.  Takakeisho could win it outright, or Asanoyama could force a playoff.

Of course, there are still other contenders at this stage.  Shodai is a strong one!  I'd say that Terunofuji's hopes after losing to Takanosho are rather slim now.  And does anyone truly believe that Tobizaru will "do a Ryogoku" and win this championship as a Top Division rookie?  Let me put it this way: If Tobizaru wins the championship, I will eat the hat that I suspect Kintamayama never got around to eating!

Looking at the kensho patterns (yes, I know Asanoyama missed out twice due to fusensho wins), I'd say that the money/sponsors in this tournament is on Takakeisho.  But while Takakeisho came out strong the start of the tournament, he has been showing some troubling post-bout signs of possible injury.  

I went on record that Takakeisho would win this one, but if Asanoyama ends up winning, I will be just as happy.  We've already had two Makujiri yushos this year.  It's about time that Takakeisho and Asanoyama defend their Ozeki honour in the absence of the two Yokozunas!

[Eikokurai 3,433]

When’s the last time someone won a yusho with two fusen wins?

[Godango 956]

1 hour ago, Amamaniac said:

Takakeisho is in the driver's seat right now, with a one-win lead on fellow Ozeki Asanoyama.  If both men maintain their current winning ways, the final day showdown will be decisive.  Takakeisho could win it outright, or Asanoyama could force a playoff.

Of course, there are still other contenders at this stage.  Shodai is a strong one!  I'd say that Terunofuji's hopes after losing to Takanosho are rather slim now.  And does anyone truly believe that Tobizaru will "do a Ryogoku" and win this championship as a Top Division rookie?  Let me put it this way: If Tobizaru wins the championship, I will eat the hat that I suspect Kintamayama never got around to eating!

Looking at the kensho patterns (yes, I know Asanoyama missed out twice due to fusensho wins), I'd say that the money/sponsors in this tournament is on Takakeisho.  But while Takakeisho came out strong the start of the tournament, he has been showing some troubling post-bout signs of possible injury.  

I went on record that Takakeisho would win this one, but if Asanoyama ends up winning, I will be just as happy.  We've already had two Makujiri yushos this year.  It's about time that Takakeisho and Asanoyama defend their Ozeki honour in the absence of the two Yokozunas!

I started regularly watching Sumo (so become a devotee) about three years ago, and so still have never seen an ozeki yusho. I'm very excited.

[Reonito 1,296]

11 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

When’s the last time someone won a yusho with two fusen wins?

According to Herouth, it's only happened once, in 1940.

[robnplunder 974]

3 hours ago, Amamaniac said:

Let me put it this way: If Tobizaru wins the championship, I will eat the hat that I suspect Kintamayama never got around to eating!

Would you like French Fries with that?  Well, this is a year to 2 (not 1) M17 ranked rikishi took the yusho. If he beats Waka..... today, why not?   Although I am betting Shodai today, I am hoping for a monkey business.   

[Eikokurai 3,433]

4 hours ago, Amamaniac said:

I'd say that Terunofuji's hopes after losing to Takanosho are rather slim now.

He’s only one off the pace and while it’s out of his hands, I honestly wouldn’t be all that surprised if he finds himself tied for the lead again in the next four days. Takakeisho isn’t anyone I’d bet my house on to stay perfect until Sunday.

[Old Shatterhand is dead 29]

8 hours ago, WAKATAKE said:

Current soon to be ex-record holder is Tochinoshin who fell down to makushita 55. Teru will have set the new bar for years to come now

Just watch Chiyonokuni!

[Seiyashi 4,068]

9 minutes ago, Old Shatterhand is dead said:

9 hours ago, WAKATAKE said:

Current soon to be ex-record holder is Tochinoshin who fell down to makushita 55. Teru will have set the new bar for years to come now

Just watch Chiyonokuni!

I think they're talking about a return to sanyaku. Tochinoshin still holds the record for subsequent ascent to ozeki, but Terunofuji looks set to beat that too.

[WAKATAKE 2,614]

47 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

I think they're talking about a return to sanyaku. Tochinoshin still holds the record for subsequent ascent to ozeki, but Terunofuji looks set to beat that too.

From the top 10 records thread for July:

Batch 13: Lowest Demotions

Lowest Demotion to Ozeki Return (6BPY Era)

1. M6W - Kaiketsu
2. S2WHD - Mienoumi
2. S2W - Takanonami
2. S2W - Tochiazuma II (7/2004)
2. S2W - Tochiazuma II (1/2005)
6. S1W - Musoyama
6. S1W - Tochinoshin 
6. S1W - Takakeisho

 

Lowest Demotion to Sanyaku Return (6BPY Era)

1. Ms55W - Tochinoshin
2. Ms42W - Ryuko
3. Ms30W - Kotokaze
4. J11E - Mitoizumi
5. J10E - Hoo
6. J9E - Kurosegawa
7. J8W - Masudayama
8. J6W - Aobajo
9. J5W - Wakanami
10. J3W - Kyokutenho

 

Lowest Demotion to Makuuchi Return (6BPY Era)

1. Jd48W - Terunofuji (NEW ENTRY)
2. Sd84W - Tosayutaka
3. Sd28W - Chiyonokuni
4. Sd25E - Kinoarashi
5. Ms55W - Tochinoshin
6. Ms45E - Itai
7. Ms42W - Ryuko
8. Ms31W - Tamaasuka
9. Ms30W - Kotokaze
9. Ms30W - Satoyama

 

Lowest Demotion to Juryo Return (6BPY Era)

1. BG - Hokutokuni
2. Jk39w - Kotobeppu
3. Jk17w - Ryuden
4. Jd110w - Wakatenro
5. Jd48W - Terunofuji
6. Jd44e - Amuru
7. Sd94w - Myogiryu
8. Sd84w - Tosayutaka
9. Sd80w - Tamarikido
10. Sd68w - Hamanishiki

[Seiyashi 4,068]

Ah. I stand corrected, then, thanks. Is there a record for largest fall before ozeki promotion?

[robnplunder 974]

2 hours ago, Eikokurai said:

He’s only one off the pace and while it’s out of his hands, I honestly wouldn’t be all that surprised if he finds himself tied for the lead again in the next four days. Takakeisho isn’t anyone I’d bet my house on to stay perfect until Sunday.

Takakeisho had a perfect day today, getting a fusensho.   But Taka still must face three sanyuku rikishi anyone of whom can beat him.  The winner of Tobi vs Waka will also have a large say in the yusho race.  I won't be surprised if Tobi or Waka ends up with the trophy.  

Ura's promotion to sekitori rank is still in doubt.  He needs to go 6-1 and hope for some help.  

Who is bigger,  Midorifuji or Enho?   We may see both in the same division in the future.  That would be interesting.  

[yohcun 393]

Oki got called back and spoken to by Onaruto-oyakata after his match. Anyone catch what that may have been about?

[robnplunder 974]

Akiseyama gets a brilliant but clumsy win against the upstart, Kotonowaka.   Aki is deceptively athletic.  If he is 30 pounds lighter, I'd bet my lunch that he can do well in the top division.  Then again, the 30 lbs may be the reason why he is not in Makushita.  

[code_number3 694]

Jokoryu

From 0-3 to 4-3 and direct promotion

[robnplunder 974]

Tobi, tobi, tobi!  He made multiple quick moves to thwart Waka whose henka effort didn't work.   Tobizaru has been very impressive. 

Edited September 24, 2020 by robnplunder

[Shinobi Steve 146]

My Tobizaru fandom continues to grow. There are three days left, so we're going to have to see him against some people farther up the banzuke. 

I don't understand Japanese, but I get the point that everyone likes to say Wakatakakage. I was watching on AbemaTV and the announcers said his name over and over while chuckling a little. 

[robnplunder 974]

Just now, Shinobi Steve said:

I don't understand Japanese, but I get the point that everyone likes to say Wakatakakage. I was watching on AbemaTV and the announcers said his name over and over while chuckling a little. 

They keep making fun of his name.  For a very long time, they made fun of Takakeisho sitting down on a ringside.  They can use a bit of maturity.

As for me, I stopped spelling Waka's name.  How many "i" and "s" in Missi...?

[Shinobi Steve 146]

1 minute ago, robnplunder said:

They keep making fun of his name.  For a very long time, they made fun of Takakeisho sitting down on a ringside.  They can use a bit of maturity.

It's probably for the best that I don't understand what they're saying then. That sounds like it would be annoying and take away from the enjoyment of watching. 

[Akinomaki 39,535]

9 minutes ago, Shinobi Steve said:

My Tobizaru fandom continues to grow. There are three days left, so we're going to have to see him against some people farther up the banzuke. 

I don't understand Japanese, but I get the point that everyone likes to say Wakatakakage. I was watching on AbemaTV and the announcers said his name over and over while chuckling a little. 

They keep saying it to practice - and then agree that it is difficult

[Kaninoyama 1,660]

Onosho!

An Onosho yusho would be so 2020. 

[Shinobi Steve 146]

3 minutes ago, Kaninoyama said:

Onosho!

An Onosho yusho would be so 2020. 

12 days ago that would have belonged in the ridiculous predictions thread. He's looking really good this time after his 13-0 start last time. 

Edited September 24, 2020 by Shinobi Steve

[Eikokurai 3,433]

Well, NOW Terunofuji’s yusho chances appear slim.

[Kaninoyama 1,660]

8 minutes ago, Shinobi Steve said:

12 days ago that would have belonged in the ridiculous predictions thread. He's looking really good this time after his 13-0 start last time. 

Actually, I'm quite sure I (jokingly) predicted this during the last basho's spoilers thread. If it happens I'm gonna find it and quote it!

[Kaninoyama 1,660]

Interesting. Despite being on the receiving end of a fusensho today, Takekeisho was just shown on NHK going through his full routine as though he had a bout today. 

[yohcun 393]

12 minutes ago, Kaninoyama said:

Interesting. Despite being on the receiving end of a fusensho today, Takekeisho was just shown on NHK going through his full routine as though he had a bout today. 

That really sounds like a Takanohana habit.