Seiyashi 671 Posted September 8, 2020 12 hours ago, Sakura said: That's usually the way they do things. I think in Japanese the counting is different (maybe? I think I heard that once). So for Meisei it was 2 banzuke ago. The only equivalent thin in English I can think of is the phrase in Christianity `after three days he rose again', where the time frame is Friday through Sunday with Friday being Day 1, Saturday Day 2 and Sunday Day 3. Nowadays, we would say two days later, or after two days. So does this mean that if this basho is cancelled (touch wood), we will still see Abi in March 2021, or is it three actually held basho/banzuke changes from now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 3,729 Posted September 8, 2020 15 hours ago, Sakura said: That's usually the way they do things. I think in Japanese the counting is different (maybe? I think I heard that once). So for Meisei it was 2 banzuke ago. The only equivalent thin in English I can think of is the phrase in Christianity `after three days he rose again', where the time frame is Friday through Sunday with Friday being Day 1, Saturday Day 2 and Sunday Day 3. Nowadays, we would say two days later, or after two days. You're absolutely right. I've checked previous issues of the NSK banzuke topics, and they have always counted that way. Seems like I didn't pay attention before... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaminariyuki 261 Posted September 10, 2020 On 07/09/2020 at 10:17, Sakura said: That's usually the way they do things. I think in Japanese the counting is different (maybe? I think I heard that once). So for Meisei it was 2 banzuke ago. The only equivalent thin in English I can think of is the phrase in Christianity `after three days he rose again', where the time frame is Friday through Sunday with Friday being Day 1, Saturday Day 2 and Sunday Day 3. Nowadays, we would say two days later, or after two days. The counting is not as difficult as the counters, IMO. I heap thanks on the Japanese people for the existence of the general counter (hitotsu, futatsu, mitsu...). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 1,882 Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) Nikkan reporting that both yokozuna are kyujo. The judging department are making the matches but Hakuho and Kakuryu were not in the listings. https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202009110000260.html Edited September 11, 2020 by WAKATAKE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 1,495 Posted September 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, WAKATAKE said: Nokozuna confirmed What a hilarious word, Nokozuna. Sums it up in a very Japanese way [although in Japanese would it read "of the Ogre's Daughter"?] 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 837 Posted September 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, WAKATAKE said: Nikkan reporting that both yokozuna are kyujo. The judging department are making the matches but Hakuho and Kakuryu were not in the listings. https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202009110000260.html I am going to take this as good news. It means there may be another unlikely yusho winner in the works. Shodai, perhaps. Terunofuji repeat? Nah. Mitakeumi's third one? That'd be sweet. I can think of a dozen to take the yusho. This will be a wide-open basho. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 1,882 Posted September 11, 2020 Besides Abi being suspended and the two unfortunate cases of the Tamanoi sekitori, Ishiura also appears to be out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerboy1966 441 Posted September 11, 2020 Kiribayama has been saying that he wants to try to get a lift-out win this basho. Well, he has a chance to learn from the master as he's been given Tochinoshin on day 1. Ichinojo v Hoshoryu should also be fun to watch. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 1,882 Posted September 11, 2020 Takakeisho will be taking on defending yusho winner Terunofuji on day 1. This will be the first time since Nagoya 2017 that they meet and the second time overall. For Teru, since he's back up at the top, this is normal expectations https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202009110000354.html Miyagino says that Hakuho's current condition is such that he cannot even do sonkyo (post knee surgery). His entering the November basho at this point may be in question https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202009110000320.html Kakuryu is out because of the elbow injury from last basho. Stable master Michinoku has had a talk with Kakuryu and it looks like November will be the make or break basho for him, which means there may not be a lot of time left for the yokozuna https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202009110000322.html 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclonicleo 11 Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, WAKATAKE said: Kakuryu is out because of the elbow injury from last basho. Stable master Michinoku has had a talk with Kakuryu and it looks like November will be the make or break basho for him, which means there may not be a lot of time left for the yokozuna I would assume that if he doesn't make the next basho then intai will follow? I wonder if he has sorted out Japanese citizenship yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joaoiyama 198 Posted September 11, 2020 5 hours ago, WAKATAKE said: Besides Abi being suspended and the two unfortunate cases of the Tamanoi sekitori, Ishiura also appears to be out. What happened to him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
code_number3 401 Posted September 11, 2020 https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/ondemand/video/2067021/ Aki basho preview, with Musashimaru as guest 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishinoyama 435 Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Joaoiyama said: What happened to him? From reports in another thread, Ishiura injured his ankle. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pitinosato 52 Posted September 11, 2020 Thanks for the link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaminariyuki 261 Posted September 11, 2020 9 hours ago, robnplunder said: I am going to take this as good news. It means there may be another unlikely yusho winner in the works. Shodai, perhaps. Terunofuji repeat? Nah. Mitakeumi's third one? That'd be sweet. I can think of a dozen to take the yusho. This will be a wide-open basho. Who's at M-17? That seems to be the sweet spot this year. It is, after all, that kind of year in general. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 671 Posted September 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Kaminariyuki said: Who's at M-17? That seems to be the sweet spot this year. It is, after all, that kind of year in general. Ichinojo - and quite frankly, next to Tokushoryu and Terunofuji, he's the most likely of them all to win a makujiri yusho. He darn nearly did it as shin-nyumaku, so he's definitely got that kind of performance capable in him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,778 Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) On 30/07/2020 at 16:44, Akinomaki said: These new 5 kensho banners from the Metropolitan Government may be shown in full on NHK, at least once: Stop Corona "Go to shops with stickers (that show it follows the guidelines)", "Wash your hands, use a mask", "No! to the 3mitsu", "Keep distance", "to not get infected, and not infect others" On the last 3 days they will parade 3 times each These parades will go on the whole basho this time. The NSK had donated the 5 banners to the Metropolitan Government and had 5 new ones made, apparently with the same messages. Mono-ii conferences on the dohyo will again be in social distance. http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20200911/sum20091120550010-n1.html Day 15 is the only day sold out by now sumo.pia.jp/vacant/va09.jsp, chair seats are still on resale though. A 6min. report from NHK Hokkaido about Kyokutaisei's way back to makuuchi - with first son Seishin, born last December vid Dohyo making is complete vid vid vid o The dohyo matsuri tomorrow will follow the same procedure as last basho, no rikishi, no public. It will be streamed live by the NSK: Edited September 11, 2020 by Akinomaki 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
code_number3 401 Posted September 12, 2020 Just saw Shikimori Inosuke doing dohyo matsuri Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,778 Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) I was wrong - as code_number3 pointed out, the yusho portrait presentation was a very delayed one for Tokushoryu and Hakuho, who is kyujo, thus Miyagino-oyakata was there o o oo oo shown live after the dohyo matsuri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlbTJkihGdA&t=24m40s Edited September 13, 2020 by Akinomaki 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philioyamfugi 376 Posted September 12, 2020 The dohyo matsuri was live streamed... first time watching the whole thing, like going to mass, really cool, also seeing the yusho portraits presentation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,778 Posted September 12, 2020 Dohyo matsuri day - about 700 watched live on YT, the video had 7000 views so far A sign at the kokugikan grounds "Watching sumo safe and feeling safe" o the top o Inosuke o o oo 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaijingai 606 Posted September 12, 2020 https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/09/9e33432ea4ac-sumo-yokozuna-withdrawal-opens-door-for-wild-autumn-melee.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 1,495 Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gaijingai said: https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/09/9e33432ea4ac-sumo-yokozuna-withdrawal-opens-door-for-wild-autumn-melee.html The article mentions the retirement of Hokutofuji in 1992. I think they mean Hokutoumi. Edited September 12, 2020 by Yamanashi "retirement" has two r's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
code_number3 401 Posted September 12, 2020 Just saw twitter that Kimura Konosuke is kyujo. Confirmed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,778 Posted September 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, code_number3 said: Just saw twitter that Kimura Konosuke is kyujo. Confirmed? Confirmed and causing plenty of reactions in the kyujo thread 7 hours ago, Yubinhaad said: Sanyaku gyoji Kimura Konosuke is kyujo from this basho due to poor health. As mentioned elsewhere tate gyoji Shikimori Inosuke is back on duty, having missed the July basho with poor health too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
