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8 minutes ago, sumojoann said:

Can someone list the the amount of money Terunofuji will receive as a result of winning the Yusho?  Wikipedia said the Yusho itself is worth 10 million yen and each special prize is worth 2 million yen.  Terunofuji received the Shukun-sho and the Gino-sho.  (Amamaniac said he received 14 Kensho today).  What other bonuses and money will he receive?  Also, is there a list of gifts and trophies that he will receive?  As I recall, he receives a year's worth of Corona beer from Mexico and obviously some macaroons.  Will he still receive the petrol & is that a year's worth?  As I understand it, no mushrooms this time around. 

What will Isegahama Beya receive?

As far as the food goes, my understanding is that most of the food effectively goes to the heya, since one wrestler can't eat it all. There's an anecdote floating around (might be Kintamayama's) about someone dining with Akebono at the heya, and the okami-san teasing Akebono about the beef served that day being the last of the beef he won. Then there's of course Shodai's standby red fish last time round; it got converted to sashimi for the heya when he lost.

Monetarily, apart from the explicit prize money and kensho you've already listed, there's also the matter of the mochikyukin bonus Terunofuji will get for winning a yusho, which shakes out to something like an extra 720k yen a year. 

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1 hour ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

Was Ikioi's win today enough to save him?

No way. 

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Just catching up on the Juryo playoffs. Meisei was superb and that bout with Hoshoryu would have been a classic had it been in makuuchi.

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16 minutes ago, sumojoann said:

Can someone list the the amount of money Terunofuji will receive as a result of winning the Yusho?  Wikipedia said the Yusho itself is worth 10 million yen and each special prize is worth 2 million yen.  Terunofuji received the Shukun-sho and the Gino-sho.  (Amamaniac said he received 14 Kensho today).  What other bonuses and money will he receive?  Also, is there a list of gifts and trophies that he will receive?  As I recall, he receives a year's worth of Corona beer from Mexico and obviously some macaroons.  Will he still receive the petrol & is that a year's worth?  As I understand it, no mushrooms this time around. 

Just to be clear, Terunofuji did receive 14 kensho for his senshuraku victory, which was not really as a result of winning the Yusho.  But when you consider his kensho winnings in this tournament, then his grand total is 58 (i.e., roughly ¥1,644,300 [US$15,520] on the spot, and another ¥1,644.300 in his retirement fund).  

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2018/11/16/sumo/sumo-101-kensho/

Not bad in and of itself. ;-)

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12 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

As far as the food goes, my understanding is that most of the food effectively goes to the heya, since one wrestler can't eat it all. There's an anecdote floating around (might be Kintamayama's) about someone dining with Akebono at the heya, and the okami-san teasing Akebono about the beef served that day being the last of the beef he won. Then there's of course Shodai's standby red fish last time round; it got converted to sashimi for the heya when he lost.

Monetarily, apart from the explicit prize money and kensho you've already listed, there's also the matter of the mochikyukin bonus Terunofuji will get for winning a yusho, which shakes out to something like an extra 720k yen a year. 

I noticed a giant teacup being presented to Terunofuji which I don't recall seeing before.  I found a previous thread from May 2019 that said it is a Hungary Friendship Cup that replaced the trophy that had been awarded since 1986.  The same thread had a photo of the President's Cup that Trump had presented, but it said that it would only be presented at the Natsu Basho yearly until it was canceled by a future President. 

 

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14 minutes ago, sumojoann said:

Can someone list the the amount of money Terunofuji will receive as a result of winning the Yusho?  Wikipedia said the Yusho itself is worth 10 million yen and each special prize is worth 2 million yen.  Terunofuji received the Shukun-sho and the Gino-sho.  (Amamaniac said he received 14 Kensho today).  What other bonuses and money will he receive?  Also, is there a list of gifts and trophies that he will receive?  As I recall, he receives a year's worth of Corona beer from Mexico and obviously some macaroons.  Will he still receive the petrol & is that a year's worth?  As I understand it, no mushrooms this time around.

The Oita mushrooms were not among those mentioned, petrol from the Emirates, Miyazaki beef and NHK gold cup, that comes with a sum of money, were announced as also be presented - those with ceremony are listed in the torikumi http://www.sumo.or.jp/pdf/honbasho/kansen/torikumi/2007_15.pdf

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Can someone enlighten me what exactly qualified Terunofuji for the Gino-Sho ?(Eh?)

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1 minute ago, Gospodin said:

Can someone enlighten me what exactly qualified Terunofuji for the Gino-Sho ?(Eh?)

That had me puzzled, too.  His go-to "technique" seems often to be brute force!

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A playoff would have been fun to see but straight up overpowering Mitakeumi... well, fair enough. Let's hope Terunofuji's knees hold up for a while longer, he makes a good show.

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1 minute ago, Kotogouryuu said:

A playoff would have been fun to see but straight up overpowering Mitakeumi... well, fair enough. Let's hope Terunofuji's knees hold up for a while longer, he makes a good show.

When Terunofuji entered the stadium to wait ringside for his bout, he entered together with Shodai, the dude that upset him the day before, and was now in a position to take part in a three-way playoff to determine the champion.  It must have been a little awkward for the two men.  In my imagination, just before entering, Terunofuji turned to Shodai to break the silence, and said, "Don't get your hopes up.  I'm taking this thing." ;-)

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8 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

The Oita mushrooms were not among those mentioned, petrol from the Emirates, Miyazaki beef and NHK gold cup, that comes with a sum of money, were announced as also be presented - those with ceremony are listed in the torikumi http://www.sumo.or.jp/pdf/honbasho/kansen/torikumi/2007_15.pdf

Thank you for the list.  Unfortunately, the torikumi in the link is in Japanese.  Is there one in English?

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4 minutes ago, sumojoann said:

Thank you for the list.  Unfortunately, the torikumi in the link is in Japanese.  Is there one in English?

They never make an English version of that - we would have to make one

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20 minutes ago, sumojoann said:

I noticed a giant teacup being presented to Terunofuji which I don't recall seeing before.  I found a previous thread from May 2019 that said it is a Hungary Friendship Cup that replaced the trophy that had been awarded since 1986. 

I believe you can find details about that trophy on the Forum.  IIRC, Akinomaki posted something about it when it first came out.

It has definitely been around for about a year now.  The thing is that if you watch NHK World, you often don't get to see all the trophy presentations.  Recently, I've switched over to Abema TV since they broadcast right up until the bitter "digging out the dohyo offerings" end.  I find the trophy presentations rather interesting.  

What I couldn't figure out is that in this tournament, they were being strict about letting fans leave.  But there were many empty seats on the first floor by the time Terunofuji started getting his secondary trophies (i.e., post PM Cup).  I assumed everyone needed to stay in their seats till the end.  There was even a special PA announcement after the ring had been de-kami-fied telling people on the second floor that they could now take their leave...

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31 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

Just catching up on the Juryo playoffs. Meisei was superb and that bout with Hoshoryu would have been a classic had it been in makuuchi.

I hear there is a crazy person who likes patterns in oozumo.  Did you perhaps notice that all six of today's Makushita joi bouts (the last involved a Juryo opponent in the East) were won on the West side!  Hmmmm. ;-)

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47 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

As far as the food goes, my understanding is that most of the food effectively goes to the heya, since one wrestler can't eat it all. There's an anecdote floating around (might be Kintamayama's) about someone dining with Akebono at the heya, and the okami-san teasing Akebono about the beef served that day being the last of the beef he won. Then there's of course Shodai's standby red fish last time round; it got converted to sashimi for the heya when he lost.

Monetarily, apart from the explicit prize money and kensho you've already listed, there's also the matter of the mochikyukin bonus Terunofuji will get for winning a yusho, which shakes out to something like an extra 720k yen a year. 

I found another old thread (from 2014), this one about the Nara prefecture trophy.  It said it comes with a 500,000 yen prize, plus enough chicken, vegetables, etc to make chanko for 300 persons, worth 250,000 yen.  http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/33438-sumo-trophy-news/?tab=comments#comment-270119

 

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14 minutes ago, Amamaniac said:

I hear there is a crazy person who likes patterns in oozumo.  Did you perhaps notice that all six of today's Makushita joi bouts (the last involved a Juryo opponent in the East) were won on the West side!  Hmmmm. ;-)

I hadn’t looked, haha.

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59 minutes ago, Gospodin said:

Can someone enlighten me what exactly qualified Terunofuji for the Gino-Sho ?(Eh?)

Here's what John had to say about it:

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2019/01/27/sumo/sumo-101-special-prizes/

Perhaps like me, you feel that an award for technical excellence means that we should see more than a handful of rarely seen, very-specialised kimarite winning techniques over 15 days.  In Terunofuji's case, he won using yorikiri on 10 out of 15 days.  That's some mean Yokozuna-worthy stuff.  While it's not a flashy technique, to be able to resort to (i.e., win with) that technique consistently is perhaps viewed as technical excellence.  

If that is the case, it amazes me that the prize was decided even before Terunofunji fought his final bout.  That was IMHO his best yorikiri of the tournament! 

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I’m just so happy that Terunofuji’s impressive comeback story ended perfectly for him, this basho is a testament to his amazing determination and will power, and I want to see how far he can go in Makuuchi. As for Asanoyama, he also had a really strong performance and, in my opinion, looks like the next guy to possibly wear the tsuna.

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Well, congratulations to Terunofuji. What a comeback! I really wanted to see a tomoe-sen, but I have to admit that Terunofuji deserved it after facing the top three rikishi remaining in the tournament.

Gino-sho are the hardest sansho to predict. I used to believe it was given to a rikishi who won with a wide variety of kimarite, and it sometimes is. However, one-trick pony Takakeisho had 2 during his ozeki run. Mitakeumi has also had 2; 1 for that blinding 11-4 at Hatsu 2017 featuring 2 kinboshi (for which you might have expected a shukun-sho) and 1 for his first yusho (when he also received the shukun-sho). So while I might have expected a shukun-sho and kanto-sho for Terunofuji this time, I'm unsurprised by the gino-sho. You can't really argue that he didn't use his technique very well...

Asanoyama has nothing to be ashamed of. That was a great ozeki debut, though I imagine he will have some regrets about what might have been.

Very unusual to see 3 double digit scores in lower sanyaku, isn't it? Daieisho has forced a sekiwake promotion (I believe), and Okinoumi's 9-6 is a career high KK too.

Props to Kotoeko for not letting Terutsuyoshi get away with it 3 days running!

Props also to Takanosho for emerging from the joi meatgrinder with a KK.

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Terunofuji just after winning his match:

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Being awarded the cup:

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And, finally, Terunofuji thinking "Where the hell do they expect me to put this thing? The garage?"

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On 01/08/2020 at 14:29, lackmaker said:

How common is it for all of junior sanyaku to finish with double digit win records?

SOOOOOO close!  

If only Okinoumi had won his bout, we would have seen four junior sanyaku double-digit win records.  I'm going to blame Hiro Morita on NHK for jinxing it when he mentioned the possibility 10 minutes before the critical bout.  Of course, Forum Members are blame exempt.  ;-)

But it is nice that Okinoumi has finally managed to maintain his sanyaku rank.  He has been promoted to junior Sanyaku on six occasions (Komusubi 4X and Sekiwake 2X) but has always dropped back down to Maegashira the following tournament.  Maybe he has reached a point where we'll get some consistent high-level sumo out of him!

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My only hope is that this yusho doesn't put Terunofuji's fire away.

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That was a great basho, thoroughly enjoyed it. With everything that is going on in the world right now it was nice to have a decent basho, even just as a distraction from all the scary stuff. I must admit I have struggled to stay focused on sporting events recently and I had moments in this basho where I drifted off a bit. But I'm glad we got through without any major covid-19 impacts and that  everyone came out the other side safe. And that a guy like Terunofuji who managed to come back from that much adversity, was the story of the basho. Great stuff.

Stay safe everyone, it is great to be able to share the sumo with such a fabulous online community. Hopefully we can reconvene for another one of these in a couple of months.

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4 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

Was Ikioi's win today enough to save him?

+ Nishikigi's lost today

= For me... It's Yes !

 

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