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Hanakaze as 1st rikishi in his 50s in ages

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Oldest active rikishi Hanakaze turned 50 today and becomes the first rikishi since the start of Showa to stay active in his 50s. He is chanko-ban in Tatsunami-beya and a kind of manager for the younger rikishi, planning nutrition and supporting the body. Last basho he had a 4-3 kachi-koshi and is jd68 now.

2017 Aki, 2019 Natsu win against Matsugashima

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I’ve joked with friends before that life should be like video games, with hidden Easter eggs that you can unlock with certain achievements, like “No sick days this year. You’re promoted to Vice President.”  Sumo should have this and reaching 50 while still active should get you instantly promoted to Ozeki. It would give Shodai hope.

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Most of his opponents were born (waaaay ) after his hatsu-dohyo. Impressive.

1 hour ago, Eikokurai said:

I’ve joked with friends before that life should be like video games, with hidden Easter eggs that you can unlock with certain achievements, like “No sick days this year. You’re promoted to Vice President.”  Sumo should have this and reaching 50 while still active should get you instantly promoted to Ozeki. It would give Shodai hope.

Jake: In school, everybody gets a trophy just for participating.
Charlie: Well, Jake, that's the difference between school and life. In life, all you get for participating is pain, loneliness, and death.

Two and Half Men.

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Wouldn't making Hanakaze an ozeki count as elder abuse?

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Hanakaze can mean the sniffles, if you want to go there. Always makes me laugh.

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It almost seems like this guy might try and go all the way to 60 or even 65 if he wanted to. Would he have to do mandatory retirement then?

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Hanakaze has the 2nd most bouts among the active rikishi, after Kotoshogiku.

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Oldest rikishi on record was sekiwake Miyagino, who retired age 52 in 1796. In the Meiji era, komusubi Onigatani retired age 51 in 1907. Hanakaze surpassed Ichinoya as eldest since Showa in 2017. 1 year after entering, Hanakaze already was chanko-cho - 1 year older but 1 year later start, Tatsunami-oyakata (Asahiyutaka): "He is indispensable in the heya."

Haru day 3 win against then 20y old Asaazuma http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=271&b=202003

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Natsu 2019

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5 hours ago, WAKATAKE said:

It almost seems like this guy might try and go all the way to 60 or even 65 if he wanted to. Would he have to do mandatory retirement then?

Yes, but he could start a senior league for rikishi that age out of sumo and be a Yokozuna there. 

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On 29/05/2020 at 03:45, WAKATAKE said:

It almost seems like this guy might try and go all the way to 60 or even 65 if he wanted to. Would he have to do mandatory retirement then?

I remember this exact question came up with Kaio (Laughing...) Presumably he would. It’s across the board for all Kyokai personnel isn’t it? 

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what will he even do after he retires? the ol' chanko restaurant thing? Wonder how much money he's made, considering he's never made it past sandanme it's probably not a lot.

hope we get a match against hattorizakura before then though :-P. looking quite likely these days.

 

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9 minutes ago, Yokozuna Hattorizakura said:

what will he even do after he retires? the ol' chanko restaurant thing?

Likely the same as Ichinoya, stay in the heya as manager (and maybe like him write a few books - but about chanko)

On 29/05/2020 at 12:09, Akinomaki said:

Tatsunami-oyakata (Asahiyutaka): "He is indispensable in the heya."

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2 hours ago, Yokozuna Hattorizakura said:

what will he even do after he retires? the ol' chanko restaurant thing? Wonder how much money he's made, considering he's never made it past sandanme it's probably not a lot.

hope we get a match against hattorizakura before then though :-P. looking quite likely these days.

 

Probably a good reason to keep going. There comes a point in life, for all of us, where you pass the age where starting a new career* is still possible. It becomes difficult once you reach mid-30s, almost impossible past 40, so you plough on. For a guy with not much money it is even harder to make the leap required to change paths.
 

*As an employee. Going your own way is still an option, but getting hired by a company at 40 to start at the bottom with no experience is hard.

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On 29/05/2020 at 12:09, Akinomaki said:

Oldest active rikishi Hanakaze turned 50 today and becomes the first rikishi since the start of Showa to stay active in his 50s

In the Meiji era, komusubi Onigatani retired age 51 in 1907.

The papers are inconsistent about how many years ago the last win by a rikishi in his 50s occurred. Hanakaze achieved it yesterday, the papers don't post a pic of the actual bout with (ultra injury prone light weight) Urutora, only older ones.

Sponichi wants it to be 112 years, Natsu 1908 - when Onigatani had already retired.

Hochi gives the DB confirmed 114 years, May 1906.

Sanspo makes it 115, which is when Onigatani had his first 50s win. And they cite as the latest record of rikishi in their 50s as of 2 DB unknown rikishi from June 1909, Otsuna 大綱銀之介 and Wakakino 若木野金介

Nikkan were the first to report it, also with 112 years.

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I wouldn't compare Hanakaze to rikishi from these time. Hanakaze entered when he was 15, Onigatani was almost 31. The were much less tournaments per year and less bouts per tournament. Just look at the total numbers, 280 bouts (43 basho) compared to 1405 bouts (205 basho). Hanakaze definitely had to work much harder to get to this point.

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