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Yokozuna Hattorizakura

Persistence Watch - 2020

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I always liked these threads, although they seem to have stopped, so I decided to revive it. I'll start with Hatsu 2020. The only ones still remaining from the last update (around aki 2018 I believe) are Houn and everyone's favourite, Hattorizakura. Let me know if I made a mistake.

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 26 Jonokuchi 27 West Jonokuchi 15 3-179-1 0.017 0-7 0-7
Houn Minezaki Aki 2017 14 Jonokuchi 19 West Jonokuchi 3 24-75 0.242 2-5 2-5
Kyokushoriki Tomozuna Haru 2018 11 Jonokuchi 22 East Jonokuchi 8 19-58 0.247 1-6 1-6
Shishimaru Tagonoura Haru 2018 11 Jonokuchi 20 East Jonokuchi 3 20-57 0.260 2-5 3-4
Wakafujioka Nishiiwa Haru 2018 10 Jonokuchi 19 East Jonokuchi 4 29-48 0.377 2-5 4-3
Nishikio Asahiyama Aki 2018 8 Jonokuchi 21 West Jonokuchi 8 12-44 0.214 1-6 2-5
Yamamoto Asahiyama Haru 2019 5 Jonokuchi 20 West Jonokuchi 20 9-25-1 0.265 2-4-1 3-4
Nangu Shikoroyama Haru 2019 4 Jonokuchi 17 West Jonokuchi 17 12-17-6 0.414 3-4 4-3
Shiryu Minato Natsu 2019 4 Jonokuchi 16 East Jonokuchi 16 10-18 0.357 3-4 2-5

Wakafujioka and Nangu achieved their kachikoshi.

New for Haru 2020:

Jk18e Chiyotsurugi

Jk21e Asahimaru

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Results for Haru 2020. Achieving their kachikoshi are 2 year veteran Shishimaru, and Chiyotsurugi after a single appearance on the list.

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 27 Jonokuchi 26 East Jonokuchi 15 3-187-1 0.016 0-7 0-8
Houn Minezaki Aki 2017 15 Jonokuchi 16 West Jonokuchi 3 27-79 0.255 2-5 3-4
Kyokushoriki Tomozuna Haru 2018 12 Jonokuchi 18 East Jonokuchi 8 20-64 0.238 1-6 1-6
Shishimaru Tagonoura Haru 2018 11 Jonokuchi 13 East Jonokuchi 3 24-61 0.282 3-4 4-3
Nishikio Asahiyama Aki 2018 9 Jonokuchi 17 West Jonokuchi 8 14-49 0.222 2-5 2-5
Yamamoto Asahiyama Haru 2019 6 Jonokuchi 13 West Jonokuchi 13 10-31-1 0.244 3-4 1-6
Shiryu Minato Natsu 2019 5 Jonokuchi 15 West Jonokuchi 15 11-18-6 0.379 2-5 1-0-6
Asahimaru Tomozuna Haru 2019 4 Jonokuchi 14 East Jonokuchi 14 10-18-7 0.357 3-4 3-4
Chiyotsurugi Kokonoe Nagoya 2019 3 Jonokuchi 11 West Jonokuchi 11 12-16 0.429 3-4 4-3

New for Natsu 2020:

Jk15e Iwata

(Also if anyone knows how to make these tables that would be nice. Having to copy them over is annoying.)

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Results for July 2020. No one managed a kachikoshi this time, though we will unfortunately have to say goodbye to a couple of longtime persisters. After 4 straight 1-6 tournaments (guess who he beat in the last 3), Kyokushoriki, the "second worst man in sumo" has announced his intai. Houn also announced his intai recently. Which is a shame, as he almost achieved a kachikoshi last tournament. An improvement for a guy many thought would be the next Hattorizakura.

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 28 Jonokuchi 35 East Jonokuchi 15 3-194-1 0.015 0-8 0-7
Houn Minezaki Aki 2017 15 Jonokuchi 5 West Jonokuchi 3 27-79-7 0.255 3-4 Intai
Kyokushoriki Tomozuna Haru 2018 12 Jonokuchi 10 West Jonokuchi 8 20-64-7 0.238 1-6 Intai
Nishikio Asahiyama Aki 2018 10 Jonokuchi 8 East Jonokuchi 8 16-54 0.229 2-5 2-5
Yamamoto Asahiyama Haru 2019 7 Jonokuchi 9 West Jonokuchi 9 13-35-1 0.271 1-6 3-4
Shiryu Minato Natsu 2019 6 Jonokuchi 10 East Jonokuchi 10 13-23-6 0.361 1-0-6 2-5
Asahimaru Tomozuna Haru 2019 5 Jonokuchi 3 East Jonokuchi 3 12-23-7 0.343 3-4 2-5
Iwata Naruto Natsu 2019 4 Jonokuchi 3 West Jonokuchi 3 12-16-7 0.429 3-4 3-4

No new members for next basho.

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kyokushoriki intai
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Results for Aki 2020. Great basho for the persisters, with the last 3 all achieving their kachi-koshi and the others (except of course Hattorizakura, who has recorded his 200th career loss this time) just barely missing out with a 3-4. In fact, Nishikimaru (former Yamamoto) lost his final 2 matches to persisters Iwata and Asashimaru.

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 29 Jonokuchi 32 West Jonokuchi 15 3-202-1 0.015 0-7 0-8
Nishikio Asahiyama Aki 2018 11 Jonokuchi 9 East Jonokuchi 8 19-58 0.247 2-5 3-4
Nishikimaru Asahiyama Haru 2019 8 Jonokuchi 4 West Jonokuchi 4 16-39-1 0.291 3-4 3-4
Shiryu Minato Natsu 2019 6 Jonokuchi 9 West Jonokuchi 9 17-26-6 0.395 2-5 4-3
Asahimaru  Tomozuna Haru 2019 5 Jonokuchi 6 East Jonokuchi 3 16-26-7 0.381 2-5 4-3
Iwata Naruto Natsu 2019 4 Jonokuchi 2 East Jonokuchi 2 16-19-7 0.457 3-4 4-3

New for Kyushu 2020:

Jk3 Takatsukasa

Will be a short list next time, but it looks like there will be a lot of new members from the Haru debuts after next basho.

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I wonder what keeps someone around when they never win? Surely, it’s not just the pure joy of living with a bunch of guys and making chanko everyday?
To use boxing as an example, it’s fairly common for young boxers to enter the sport as a way to escape a very difficult life. Despite almost never winning, I wonder if Hattorizakura has a very happy stable life that allowed him an escape? 

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On 05/08/2020 at 21:38, hakutorizakura said:

Wow, Hattori improved from 0-8 to 0-7. Go, boy, go! :-D

Well that was short-lived (Laughing...)

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2 hours ago, Houmanumi said:

Well that was short-lived (Laughing...)

Ah no, I was hoping that he was on an upwards trajectory to make a comeback to Jonokuchi 15. If only he had a loving, supportive uncle... (Beingninja...)

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9 hours ago, Shinobi Steve said:

I wonder what keeps someone around when they never win? Surely, it’s not just the pure joy of living with a bunch of guys and making chanko everyday?
To use boxing as an example, it’s fairly common for young boxers to enter the sport as a way to escape a very difficult life. Despite almost never winning, I wonder if Hattorizakura has a very happy stable life that allowed him an escape? 

Isn't Hattorizakura's stable the one where the oyakata takes in troubled youth? It may be that the heya is the one stable place in his life, and he has nowhere else to go. I could imagine him becoming the chanko-ban at some point, and sticking around to set records for losses in a career.

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34 minutes ago, Sue said:

Isn't Hattorizakura's stable the one where the oyakata takes in troubled youth? It may be that the heya is the one stable place in his life, and he has nowhere else to go. I could imagine him becoming the chanko-ban at some point, and sticking around to set records for losses in a career.

Also, he's the major factor for keeping injured rikishi off the BG list.  "They also serve who only stand and get yorikiried."

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Results for November 2020. The Jonokuchi 12 pair both achieved their kachikoshi. Nishikimaru after a year and a half and a shikona change, and Takatsukasa after a single appearance thanks to a playoff win against fellow persister Nishikio. Not so good news for the mk rikishi, who are now 'celebrating' mk landmarks. Nishikio has now spent two years makekoshi, and Hattorizakura has now spent a record 30 straight tournaments makekoshi, 27 of them winless. How much longer will he go?

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 30 Jonokuchi 30 East Jonokuchi 15 3-209-1 0.014 0-8 0-7
Nishikio Asahiyama Aki 2018 12 Jonokuchi 14 East Jonokuchi 8 22-62 0.262 3-4 3-4
Nishikimaru Asahiyama Haru 2019 8 Jonokuchi 12 West Jonokuchi 4 20-42-1 0.323 3-4 4-3
Takatsukasa Irumagawa Hatsu 2020 3 Jonokuchi 12 East Jonokuchi 3 12-16 0.423 3-4 4-3

New for Hatsu 2021

Jk14 Hishuyama

Jk17 Sadanojo

Jk19 Nagahara

Jk22 Kirinohana

Jk23 Matsugi

Jk24 Shiraishizakura

Jk27 Daishoko

Jk29 Asashorei

As predicted, we have a lot of new members arriving to replenish the depleted persistence ranks. Jk17 Haruku would also have been included, but he announced his intai.

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11 minutes ago, Yokozuna Hattorizakura said:

Results for November 2020. The Jonokuchi 12 pair both achieved their kachikoshi. Nishikimaru after a year and a half and a shikona change, and Takatsukasa after a single appearance and a playoff with fellow persister Nishikio. Not so good news for the mk rikishi, who are now 'celebrating' mk landmarks. Nishikio has now spent two years makekoshi, and Hattorizakura has now spent a record 30 straight tournaments makekoshi, 27 of them winless. How much longer will he go?

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 30 Jonokuchi 30 East Jonokuchi 15 3-209-1 0.014 0-8 0-7
Nishikio Asahiyama Aki 2018 12 Jonokuchi 14 East Jonokuchi 8 22-62 0.262 3-4 3-4
Nishikimaru Asahiyama Haru 2019 8 Jonokuchi 12 West Jonokuchi 4 20-42-1 0.323 3-4 4-3
Takatsukasa Irumagawa Hatsu 2020 3 Jonokuchi 12 East Jonokuchi 3 12-16 0.423 3-4 4-3

New for Hatsu 2021

Jk14 Hishuyama

Jk17 Sadanojo

Jk19 Nagahara

Jk22 Kirinohana

Jk23 Matsugi

Jk24 Shiraishizakura

Jk27 Daishoko

Jk29 Asashorei

As predicted, we have a lot of new members arriving to replenish the depleted persistence ranks. Jk17 Haruku would also have been included, but he announced his intai.

The Hatsu newcomers could almost form an 8-man round robin (though the first two are in the same heya); there would have to be a katchi koshi or two from those matchups.

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