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35K in the Tokyo metropolitan area. There is no way for them to curb the infection in time for the summer jungyo. 

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6 hours ago, rhyen said:

35K in the Tokyo metropolitan area. There is no way for them to curb the infection in time for the summer jungyo. 

Not sumo-related but corona-related.

I’ve been following shogi lately and I saw many news on their website about game postponement, some players who are sick but not covid (yet), until some players who are positively covid.

Another wave is going on.

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8 hours ago, rhyen said:

35K in the Tokyo metropolitan area. There is no way for them to curb the infection in time for the summer jungyo. 

They will have to cancel that for sure.

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Shimpan Futagoyama and Tatekawa 立川 (Tosanoumi) are infected, the were in the same shift on day 15. The participants of the Natsu jungyo will be tested on the 27th. The jungyo starts in Tachikawa 立川 on the 5th.

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Sasaki Ichirō states that of the 43 heya in sumo, only Nishiiwa and Irumagawa-beya have avoided any COVID cases at all. Technically there's also Takekuma, but as it was established in February it hasn't been around for much of the pandemic. The article contains an interview with Nishiiwa oyakata on the infection control measures he's undertaken.

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2 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

Sasaki Ichirō states that of the 43 heya in sumo, only Nishiiwa and Irumagawa-beya have avoided any COVID cases at all. Technically there's also Takekuma, but as it was established in February it hasn't been around for much of the pandemic. The article contains an interview with Nishiiwa oyakata on the infection control measures he's undertaken.

Has Isegahama-beya had any COVID cases?  If so, I wasn't aware of that.

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18 minutes ago, sumojoann said:

Has Isegahama-beya had any COVID cases?  If so, I wasn't aware of that.

They were infected in the aftermath of Gōeidō and Tochiōzan's danpatsu shiki in January. 

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Today at the  rijikai: "Maybe we don't need to withdraw whole heyas when someone is tested positive? How about we test the rikishi and let the negative ones continue?" asked some Oyakatas. "We are a public interest incorporated foundation and have to abide by the laws of the land, but maybe we can find a  workaround here.." suggested Shibatayama Oyakata.

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On 25/07/2022 at 13:57, Akinomaki said:

Shimpan Futagoyama and Tatekawa 立川 (Tosanoumi) are infected, the were in the same shift on day 15. The participants of the Natsu jungyo will be tested on the 27th. The jungyo starts in Tachikawa 立川 on the 5th.

Plenty of new cases were found at the PCR tests yesterday, oyakata, sekitori, gyoji, tokoyama ...  Shibatayama: "We haven't yet aggregated it to individual cases." The jungyo is still planned to be held, they think about how to deal with it. http://www.daily.co.jp/general/2022/07/28/0015508867.shtml

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On 26/07/2022 at 15:06, Seiyashi said:

Sasaki Ichirō states that of the 43 heya in sumo, only Nishiiwa and Irumagawa-beya have avoided any COVID cases at all. Technically there's also Takekuma, but as it was established in February it hasn't been around for much of the pandemic. The article contains an interview with Nishiiwa oyakata on the infection control measures he's undertaken.

Looking at heya size, both have fewer than 10 deshi. So being a smaller heya and having no sekitori (yet) means less opportunities for infection between basho.

Edit: @Seiyashi, if the articles is correct. That means your corona tracking might be accurate if the earlier infected heyas (unrevealed toriteki infection) are unique (and probably limited to the smaller heyas with no sekitori, otherwise they would be named). 

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55 minutes ago, rhyen said:

Looking at heya size, both have fewer than 10 deshi. So being a smaller heya and having no sekitori (yet) means less opportunities for infection between basho.

Edit: @Seiyashi, if the articles is correct. That means your corona tracking might be accurate if the earlier infected heyas (unrevealed toriteki infection) are unique (and probably limited to the smaller heyas with no sekitori, otherwise they would be named). 

So I went back to that tracking and the last time we checked it was 28 unique heya, with up to 39 if earlier undisclosed heya were unique. I kind of lost track of how many cases since but if out of 43 only 3 are unaffected (Nishiiwa, Irumagawa, and Takekuma), then that's about right. As far as I can tell Kataonami and Sadogatake, if they weren't infected before Nagoya, are "new", but as that would put us over the limit of 40 (28+2 + 11(if unique)) I think it is safe to say that some of the undisclosed heya must had repeat infections which were then announced.

Also, if Nikkan is correct, that also implies Oshiogawa and Nishonoseki (ex-Kisenosato's, not the current Hanaregoma) have also been hit. Which is odd because I don't recall seeing news that they were hit, which means not every case is being reported nowadays. Oshiogawa was placed on kyūjō because of his oyakata channel work with Otowayama and Onogawa who tested positive, but he wasn't stated to be positive himself on that occasion. 

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3 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

Also, if Nikkan is correct, that also implies Oshiogawa and Nishonoseki (ex-Kisenosato's, not the current Hanaregoma) have also been hit. Which is odd because I don't recall seeing news that they were hit, which means not every case is being reported nowadays.

Or they've been tagged with cases referring to rikishi (or personnel) whose infection took place when they were still in Oguruma.

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I've seen a few people online starting to wonder what the NSK can do to relax restrictions and encourage fan participation again. Here's an (off-topic) article with some context of the difficult social position the NSK are in. It is about a large fine handed down from the Japanese pro soccer league to a team whose supporters are on occasion cheering in excess of league COVID guidelines. The article notes (the most extreme) reactions on Japanese twitter as is tradition for this particular tabloid. 

https://soranews24.com/2022/07/30/japanese-soccer-team-fined-20-million-yen-because-fans-cheering-violated-covid-19-guidelines/

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13 hours ago, Yarimotsu said:

I've seen a few people online starting to wonder what the NSK can do to relax restrictions and encourage fan participation again. Here's an (off-topic) article with some context of the difficult social position the NSK are in. It is about a large fine handed down from the Japanese pro soccer league to a team whose supporters are on occasion cheering in excess of league COVID guidelines. The article notes (the most extreme) reactions on Japanese twitter as is tradition for this particular tabloid. 

https://soranews24.com/2022/07/30/japanese-soccer-team-fined-20-million-yen-because-fans-cheering-violated-covid-19-guidelines/

There are rules against loud cheering? The whole point of going to the stadium is to cheer as loudly as possible (otherwise I'd just stay home and watch the game on TV), do they really expect people to watch football quietly and sitting down? LOL

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1 hour ago, Nantonoyama said:

There are rules against loud cheering? The whole point of going to the stadium is to cheer as loudly as possible (otherwise I'd just stay home and watch the game on TV), do they really expect people to watch football quietly and sitting down? LOL

Different sports, different decorum. I was in the top row of the Kokugikan before 'rona hit and the fans up there were fairly rowdy. But, down close to the dohyo, fans were expected to not or drink, not shout, and even clapping was pretty rare. They just extended that to the rest of the arena, but at least for me, the crowd was part of the fun.

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Dragging the Gagamaru danpatsu news over for some tangential information about who is and is not hit by this latest wave of COVID to hit ozumo post Nagoya basho. The Hochi news article states that Kise-oyakata and Tochinoshin both couldn't make it for COVID reasons, so both Kise and Kasugano are hit. Miyagino is not, since Hakuhō could still attend, and neither presumably are the stables of the other guests who could attend and make a cut.

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On 28/07/2022 at 10:45, Akinomaki said:

Plenty of new cases were found at the PCR tests yesterday, oyakata, sekitori, gyoji, tokoyama ...  Shibatayama: "We haven't yet aggregated it to individual cases."

The NSK is in no hurry to publish the oyakata and sekitori cases. It is really just a normal illness now, just like cases of influenza were not published unless somebody had to go kyujo for being too sick.

When the jungyo is about to start, they'll post the kyujo list

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7 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Plenty of new cases were found at the PCR tests yesterday, oyakata, sekitori, gyoji, tokoyama ...  Shibatayama: "We haven't yet aggregated it to individual cases."

The reason is that among the NSK office staff who do that work infections occurred as well.

They think about letting people take part in the jungyo after getting 2 times a negative antigen test result from now on. http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2022/07/29/kiji/20220729s00005000060000c.html

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On 31/07/2022 at 08:56, Nantonoyama said:

 do they really expect people to watch football quietly and sitting down? 

That is exactly what was expected (and received) in Japan for most of the past two years in soccer - and baseball as well as most other sports.

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On 31/07/2022 at 14:48, rhyen said:

Even Japanese have trouble returning when they get infected on oversea trips.

I'm aware of some japanese grad students who have been stuck in Oxford for three-four weeks waiting for a negative PCR test.  No test, no travel.  

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On 31/07/2022 at 13:48, rhyen said:

Even Japanese have trouble returning when they get infected on oversea trips.

https://news.tv-asahi.co.jp/news_society/articles/000263402.html?display=full

I am guessing it will be nearly impossible for us to travel there as FITs

This is disturbing to hear as someone who's going to Japan in September and tested positive for COVID on Friday.

If I get to travel I really hope my sense of smell recovers, one of the lasting highlights of visiting in 2019 was the aroma of bintsuke!

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