Corona and sumo

[Halian 7]

1 hour ago, Seiyashi said:

Salt apparently lifts blood stains out of fabric really well. I'm much more interested in the chemistry of it, but I can't quite find anything precisely on how it works. A possible analogue is the use of irritant salts in sclerotherapy to flush and collapse varicose/spider veins - some sources suggest that clotting is the reason behind the colour change.

Also Coke, but I doubt you’ll see chikara-cola anytime soon ;)

[Seiyashi 3,912]

1 minute ago, Halian said:

Also Coke, but I doubt you’ll see chikara-cola anytime soon ;)

+1. , but Coke probably does that with the acid action from phosphoric and carbonic acids, and on most things (other than a dohyo), the Coke would just stain worse than what you're trying to lift anyway. I think it's quite a different mechanism of action from salt, which usually acts as an anti-bacterial agent by dessicating like mad. I'm just hypothesising here (happy to be corrected by any biochemists), but salt water probably ruptures red blood cells by virtue of osmosis (which way is anyone's guess), which exposes the hemoglobin to degradation, hence vanishing the red colour of blood.

[Eikokurai 3,419]

7 hours ago, Halian said:

Also Coke

Maybe that’s what the white powder they throw really is.

[Kintamayama 42,781]

Number of spectators allowed for January will be 5300.Tamariseki will be filled by every fourth person and some tickets will be sold to the public (dont hold your breath, Mr. Public..} Tickets will also be sold at the Kkan  itself, based on availability. 

Edited November 26, 2020 by Kintamayama

[Halian 7]

10 hours ago, Eikokurai said:

Maybe that’s what the white powder they throw really is.

LOL. Not coke, Coke.

[Dapeng 231]

Now more than two thousands new cases a day. Will the January basho be canceled? It seems vaccinations will not be available to the public until March.

[Kaninoyama 1,466]

12 hours ago, Dapeng said:

Now more than two thousands new cases a day. Will the January basho be canceled? It seems vaccinations will not be available to the public until March.

I'd bet against it getting canceled unless there is an outbreak among rikishi, but making it a spectator-free event may be put back on the table if the situation continues to decline in Tokyo. 

[Dapeng 231]

14 hours ago, Kaninoyama said:

I'd bet against it getting canceled unless there is an outbreak among rikishi, but making it a spectator-free event may be put back on the table if the situation continues to decline in Tokyo. 

It seems it's getting worse and worse everywhere ...... 

[Yamanashi 3,359]

3 hours ago, Dapeng said:

It seems it's getting worse and worse everywhere ...... 

One thing you can count on: there will never be a decrease in total cases.

[Marcus33 10]

What is the situation in Japan regarding vaccines? I'm assuming the rikishi won't have access before the January basho, but perhaps March?

[robnplunder 972]

On 04/12/2020 at 15:46, Marcus33 said:

What is the situation in Japan regarding vaccines? I'm assuming the rikishi won't have access before the January basho, but perhaps March?

I highly doubt they will be vaccinated by March.  There aren't going to be enough of these vaccines for the mass until late spring according to the tea leaves I have been reading.  

[Akinomaki 37,450]

The NSK announced today that 3 rikishi have been infected, from the same heya, makushita or below, so no names. Yesterday they complained of fever and coughed and had a positive PCR test. Hospital treatment is planned, but they are not severe cases so far.

All heya connected persons are tested now. Shibatayama: "We'll have to wait and see'': The NSK waits for the instructions from the health care center.

https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2020/12/10/0013928490.shtml

Edited December 10, 2020 by Akinomaki

[Seiyashi 3,912]

On 10/12/2020 at 16:25, Akinomaki said:

The NSK announced today that 3 rikishi have been infected, from the same heya, makushita or below, so no names. Yesterday they complained of fever and coughed and had a positive PCR test. Hospital treatment is planned, but they are not severe cases so far.

All heya connected persons are tested now. Shibatayama: "We'll have to wait and see'': The NSK waits for the instructions from the health care center.

https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2020/12/10/0013928490.shtml

The outbreak is at Tatsunami-beya. Akua is the only sekitori confirmed to be infected so far - no word on Meisei and Hoshoryu.

立浪部屋で計１０人が新型コロナに感染　角界では３例目の集団感染 : スポーツ報知 (hochi.news)

[Kaminariyuki 495]

On 05/12/2020 at 22:15, robnplunder said:

I highly doubt they will be vaccinated by March.  There aren't going to be enough of these vaccines for the mass until late spring according to the tea leaves I have been reading.  

That could easily be the deal in Japan. In the USofA, I suspect that celebrities, including sports teams, will somehow get early vaccinations, maybe right behind the elderly/sensitive groups and health care workers.

[since_94 647]

This is most unfortunate news. I wish Akua and all the other rikishi and staff affected a speedy and complete recovery 

 

[Yamanashi 3,359]

20 minutes ago, since_94 said:

This is most unfortunate news. I wish Akua and all the other rikishi and staff affected a speedy and complete recovery 

 

I expect he and the others will get the "kosho-lite" treatment for Hatsu, right?

[Seiyashi 3,912]

5 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

I expect he and the others will get the "kosho-lite" treatment for Hatsu, right?

It was hardly kosho lite, it was kosho plus since it kicked in for the injured basho and not the next. But that depends if they are still infectious during the basho period. It wasn't necessary during the Takadagawa outbreak because the basho was well after everyone had recovered. 

[Gurowake 3,730]

5 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

I expect he and the others will get the "kosho-lite" treatment for Hatsu, right?

The treatment of the entire heya excluded from competition was appropriate given that none of them individually posed a known risk to other rikishi; they simply were in the range of being possible carriers during the tournament that were not able to be cleared by the time the tournament started, so it was safer and more consistent for everyone involved that all those potentially exposed not participate and maintain their rank.  For those that actually have the virus, the reasoning is a bit different, because it would be the same as with any contagious disease a rikishi may be suffering from that doctors may not allow that particular person to participate because they are a known current risk, and as such might not get any lenient treatment.  However, comparing the two situations makes it seem really assholish, given how contagious this thing is, to force them to not participate and then dock their rank.  I would hope that they might then look at similar situations with an eye on the same factors.

[WAKATAKE 2,450]

Just remembered this is the heya that Hanakaze belongs to. Hopefully he is not one of the infected, given his age he is definitely susceptible to the virus. Wishing those in the heya well during this time.

[Jakusotsu 5,294]

Thanks. Now I feel old...

[Seiyashi 3,912]

59 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

The treatment of the entire heya excluded from competition was appropriate given that none of them individually posed a known risk to other rikishi; they simply were in the range of being possible carriers during the tournament that were not able to be cleared by the time the tournament started, so it was safer and more consistent for everyone involved that all those potentially exposed not participate and maintain their rank.  For those that actually have the virus, the reasoning is a bit different, because it would be the same as with any contagious disease a rikishi may be suffering from that doctors may not allow that particular person to participate because they are a known current risk, and as such might not get any lenient treatment.  However, comparing the two situations makes it seem really assholish, given how contagious this thing is, to force them to not participate and then dock their rank.  I would hope that they might then look at similar situations with an eye on the same factors.

I think we've gone through this during the Tamanoi event, but the point is if the rikishi have COVID, it is not their call to make whether they mount the dohyo or not. That is entirely different from an injury which they choose to gambarise through or not. In any case, now that the COVID-kosho precedent has been established, it would be folly not to use it for anyone who is an infection risk because it would be a risk not worth running. Don't forget that sumo is one of the more successful test cases for holding sporting events with a live audience, especially in the run up to the Olympics next year, and I don't think the NSK wants to take any chances with their good record so far.

[Kintamayama 42,781]

I think they will let them enter unless someone gets seriously ill or this drags on till after banzuke day. We have the Takadagawa precedent. 

[Yubinhaad 11,046]

Minato-oyakata (former Maegashira Minatofuji) is the latest figure from sumo to contract coronavirus. He felt unwell yesterday and went to the closest hospital to be tested, which returned a positive result. He wasn't at the heya in the last three days so the rikishi and other members weren't considered close contacts, but the Kyokai has had them all tested with those results to be returned tonight. Minato's family will be monitored as close contacts, Minato himself is receiving treatment.

https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202012150000664.html

Edited December 15, 2020 by Yubinhaad

[Kintamayama 42,781]

Minato Oyakata has entered a hospital in Saitama for treatment. The Tatsunami boys will be released from the hospital  tomorrow. "They will return to the heya and we'll see what's what. No reason to hurry decisions unnecessarily, They will be in self isolation for now" said Shibatayama PR  man regarding resuming of keiko and entering the basho. . 

Edited December 18, 2020 by Kintamayama

[Kintamayama 42,781]

An additional Makushita or under Tatsunami rikishi was found positive, bringing the Tatsunami total to 11. “There were ten ill on the 10th, but after yesterday’s additional tests, another rikishi was found positive,” announced Shibatayama PR man. A notice was sent recently to all heya. “The infection is on the rise nationwide and the health measures are becoming stricter and the caution level is currently at four in Tokyo, the highest level. Going out will be prohibited from the 25th. Hatsu basho is around the corner. Please take extra care,” it said. As for the heya entering the next basho? “In the current situation, there is no problem,” summed Shibatayama.