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On 06/05/2020 at 08:21, Akinomaki said:

Sponichi after the 1 billion yen minus for Haru gives an estimate of way over 3 billion yen loss of income for the NSK now, with the complete cancellation of Natsu and another empty following basho there will be 3 basho in a row without ticket sales - and no jungyo this year till the winter one in December.

Tospo names 3.5 billion as the loss  - the standard 1 billion per empty basho, plus 0.5 for no NHK Natsu broadcast. http://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/sports/sumou/1841832/

Tokyo has about 3000 seats more to be left unsold each day http://hochi.news/articles/20200505-OHT1T50207.html

Thus it likely will be a bigger loss than the 1 billion for Haru, and for Natsu also the kensho are canceled, which add a bit more: Haru with a bit over 1000 kensho brought about 10 million yen for the NSK

On 30/05/2019 at 14:48, Akinomaki said:

the cost per kensho for the sponsors goes up by 8000Yen to 70 000.

the NSK takes the rest: nearly double now: 4700 more to 10 000Yen.

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On 05/05/2020 at 22:41, Randomitsuki said:

It took a single moderator coming out of sumo hiatus, and two hours of time. I kicked out everything that I believe only to be of tangential relation to sumo. I might have made some questionable judgments, but with 800+ posts things like that can happen.

There's now an off-topic thread for that, called "General Corona Banter". Please try to have your discussions about Covid numbers, other sports, and particularly about Sweden over there.

Thank you.

Was my post promising, nay, prophesizing  there would be no May basho left intact? Asking for a friend..

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2 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Was my post promising, nay, prophesizing  there would be no May basho left intact? Asking for a friend..

You will find your farm in the mail. As for the mango sorbet, you'll get it after Kyokutaisei starts wearing a yellow mawashi again (that was what got you running to your freezer in the first place, haha).

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9 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Was my post promising, nay, prophesizing  there would be no May basho left intact? Asking for a friend..

Moderators, can we split off an "unseemly gloating" thread to Off Topic? (Maybe pair it with "Swedish sumo"?)(Praying...)

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8 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

Moderators, can we split off an "unseemly gloating" thread to Off Topic? (Maybe pair it with "Swedish sumo"?)(Praying...)

As some clever guy keeps saying here every time I get things right - "Even a broken watch is correct twice a day"

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4 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

As some clever guy keeps saying here every time I get things right - "Even a broken watch is correct twice a day"

That saying has been an anachronism since the invention of the battery-run digital watch.

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6 hours ago, Eikokurai said:

That saying has been an anachronism since the invention of the battery-run digital watch.

I still possess an analogue watch, but since I hate wearing watches it is only ever right twice a day.

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On 06/05/2020 at 09:58, Morty said:

They would need a few days to build the Dohyo and then go through the blessing ceremonies etc. But other than that you are right, a Tokyo basho would be very easy to run at short notice

As far as i know the Tokyo dohyo is still intact. In Tokyo the dohyo will be demolished just before the new one is set up. They could just raise it from its underground storage, apply some makeup and go on. So if it is still in good shape and they hurry up, 2 days or even 1 is possible.

 

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17 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

As some clever guy keeps saying here every time I get things right - "Even a broken watch is correct twice a day"

There were a lot of broken watches on this one, myself included.   I predict the July basho will start as scheduled without the crowd.  

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The NSK wants to have in the heya:

  • the keiko ground with doors and windows open, doing the basics like shiko and teppou preferably while wearing masks (the focus rikishi the NSK shows had none http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/39860-training-pics-overview-may-2020/)
  • all with masks in the big room, where the lower ranked rikishi stay together. When taking off the mask, put it in a pouch and write the name on it
  • body temperature measured morning and evening, minute checks of physical condition
  • separately served meals (not all from the same big chanko pot), and if possible no conversation during meals

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/20200505-OYT1T50112/

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Hakuho with his Haru basho kensho earnings made a donation of 25 000 masks to health care providers in Japan and Mongolia. In his comment - like everything reported now, released by the NSK - he mentioned that he received messages from Mongolia about lack of masks, and also that there are still shortages in Japan. https://hochi.news/articles/20200511-OHT1T50082.html

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The official NSK corona message 人間辛抱だ, ningen shimbo da, Humans (are to) endure! - delivered by the Sadogatake-beya sekitori

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The whole makuuchi and likely more will be posted with the "ningen shimbo da" stay home message, each group banzuke bottom up

Yutakayama, Mitakeumi, Shodai, Asanoyama

Ishiura, Takakeisho, Hakuho

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2 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

The whole makuuchi and likely more will be posted with the "ningen shimbo da" stay home message, each group banzuke bottom up

"Ningen shimbo da" is also a CM slogan of the brothers Wakanohana I and Takanohana I - here a late one with the future W.III and T.II : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-SM8cBUoeo&t=16s

http://www.daily.co.jp/general/2020/05/11/0013335163.shtml

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On 10/05/2020 at 06:24, Akinomaki said:

The NSK wants to have in the heya:

  • the keiko ground with doors and windows open, doing the basics like shiko and teppou preferably while wearing masks (the focus rikishi the NSK shows had none http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/39860-training-pics-overview-may-2020/)
  • all with masks in the big room, where the lower ranked rikishi stay together. When taking off the mask, put it in a pouch and write the name on it
  • body temperature measured morning and evening, minute checks of physical condition
  • separately served meals (not all from the same big chanko pot), and if possible no conversation during meals

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/20200505-OYT1T50112/

NSK probably needs to upgrade the guideline for higher-ranked rikishi who are more exposed to the virus.   

I believe the next basho will start in July.   I also think there is a good chance that it won't finish unless Japan continues its emergency measures and/or people practice social distancing.   Re-opening Pachinko and talks of easing up won't do given the nature of the virus.   

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20 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

The whole makuuchi and likely more will be posted with the "ningen shimbo da" stay home message, each group banzuke bottom up

Today the message is "Stay home = ie ni iyou": Enho, Kiribayama, Takanosho, Kakuryu and out of banzuke order again Asanoyama

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28 year old Shobushi from Takadagawa Stable has died of multiple organ failure after becoming infected with the coronavirus.

 

 

 

 

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RIP.   What a shocker!   I wonder what this does for the July basho.   

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I think this brings the July Natsu basho into question. What a heart breaker.

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All about 1000 NSK members are to be tested for Corona antibodies. Start of the new week tests will commence, the results are to be expected for mid June. A test of this scale is the first in the Japanese sports world. The NSK wants to learn about the scope of infection and use this for measures in connection with the opening of the next basho. https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/20200513-OYT1T50254/

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24 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

All about 1000 NSK members are to be tested for Corona antibodies. Start of the new week tests will commence, the results are to be expected for mid June. A test of this scale is the first in the Japanese sports world. The NSK wants to learn about the scope of infection and use this for measures in connection with the opening of the next basho. https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/20200513-OYT1T50254/

I look forward to the result.   I am going to guess at least 10%. 

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I think the Kyokai knew of the grave situation of the infected rikishi and it was the real reason for May being called off.

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https://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0006546380

Anti-body testing will start early next week, but strangely the results will not be made known until the end of June...  That doesn't make a lot of sense.  The tests can probably be administered in under a week.  But the lag time between releasing the results and then the lag time before the start of the Nagoya-in-Tokyo tournament will not rule out the possibility of more infections...  If the NSK is trying to determine herd immunity, then they should focus on Takadagawa Stable.  

But at the end of the day, any attempt to protect wrestlers during this pandemic is welcome.

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Japan has lifted the state of emergency in most places except, Tokyo, Osaka and Hokkaido. A positive sign.

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