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Kotoshogiku *and* Shohozan - the veterans poll

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  1. 1. Will Kotoshogiku retire in 2020?

    • He will retire in Feb / Mar / Apr 2020
    • He will retire in May / Jun 2020
    • He will retire in Jul / Aug 2020
    • He will retire in Sep / Oct 2020
    • He will retire in Nov / Dec 2020
      0
    • He won't retire in 2020
  2. 2. Will Shohozan retire in 2020?

    • He will retire in Feb / Mar / Apr 2020
      0
    • He will retire in May / Jun 2020
      0
    • He will retire in Jul / Aug 2020
      0
    • He will retire in Sep / Oct 2020
    • He will retire in Nov / Dec 2020
      0
    • He won't retire in 2020
  3. 3. What will be the COMBINED total number of kachi koshis (8-7 / 4-3 or better) that Kotoshogiku and Shohozan will get in 2020?

    • ten
      0
    • nine
      0
    • eight
    • seven
      0
    • six
    • five
    • four
    • three
    • two
    • one
      0
    • blast-off! (zero)
      0

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  • Poll closed on 07/03/20 at 23:59

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Kotoshogiku (30th Jan) and Shohozan (9th Feb) have both recently turned 36. They are the oldest rikishi currently ranked in Makunouchi.

In memory of the 'Kaio' and then 'Aminishiki' polls of before, what is in store in 2020 for these two old-timers?

Please expand on your votes via the comments below. Which of the two will do better in 2020? How are you thinking that the combined numer of KKs will be split? (E.g. 3 KKs for Kotoshogiku, 4 KKs for Shohozan.)

They both ended up with MKs in January 2020.

Kotoshogiku - M13E (7-8)
Shohozan - M7E (7-8)

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I think the Geek will retire when drops to Juryo (which is pretty close) but Shohozan will hang on for another year

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Shohozan has been fine but not great. He'll hang on through the end of the year and get 2KKs I think.

Kotoshogiku has been in steady decline with 5 straight MKs.  I predict he'll get another in March and follow Goeido's lead right after.

Outside of Terunofuji the future is no shaping up well for former Ozeki.

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The Geek is on his way out. He'll survive barely in Osaka and have a record that will drop him to Juryo, but retire rather than soldier on. May 2020 will be his last hurrah.

Shohozan has enough steam to keep going one more year.

Shohozan will have 3 KK to the Geek's zero.

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With these veteran polls, I find that it is usually wise to vote against retirements! But mediocre years for both, with 3 KKs each.

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2 KK for Kotoshogiku. 3 KK for Shohozan. 

Neither will retire. I'd like to think Kotoshogiku will retire, but I was wrong every time I thought Aminishiki would retire.... 

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Kotoshogiku intai around Aki, Shohozan continues in 2021

4 KK, 1 for Kotoshogiku and 3 for Shohozan

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Kotoshogiku will be toast this year - we seem to think - just a matter of when.

Whereas, Shohozan will survive the year.

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