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Norizo Cup Banzuke 2020.3

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2020,3 NC-Banzuke

Eeve achieved undispoted promotion to Ozeki with 10<12<11<8wins.

Ye,Choshu-Yuki[Yw-12]
Yw,Pandaazuma[Ye-10wins]
O1e,tsupparitaro[Oe-7]
O1w,Gurowake[Ow-7]
O2e,Eeve[Se-10]
Se,ooborayama[Ke-11+Gino-sho]
Sw,Terarno[M14e-14=NC-Saiko-yusho+Kanto-sho]
Ke,Asshet De Rosa[M2w-9]
Kw,daishoyama[M6e-11]
M1e,tohru[M1w-8]
M1w,Kyoju[M12w-13=NC-Jun-yusho+Kanto-sho]
M2e,komasachan[J2w-12=Juryo-yusho+Shukun-sho]
M2w,ottottoto[Kw-6]
M3e,wakaiouzenjou[M4w-8]
M3w,Iepi[M5e-8]
M4e,Hironoumi[M2e-6]
M4w,hagiwara[M6w-8]
M5e,GONZABROW[Sw-4]
M5w,Yanen[M3e-6]
M6e,Bill[M1e-5]
M6w,Kitakachiyama[M5w-7]
M7e,Norizo[M10e-9]
M7w,yosouou[M8w-8]
M8e,Fujisan[M13e-10]
M8w,kawaji[M9w-8]
M9e,Kotononami[M11e-9]
M9w,yukihyou[M7w-7]
M10e,hashi[M10w-8]
M10w,chishafuwaku[M4e-5]
M11e,Anjoboshi[J2e-10]
M11w,Susanoo[M16w-11]
M12e,sugawara isaocchi[M14e-9]
M12w,kaiou[M14w-9]
M13e,Ganzohnesushi[M13w-8]
M13w,Asashosakari[M15e-9]
M14e,Seki Haruaki[M3w-3]
M14w,yuushuuzan[J1w-9]
M15e,ScreechingOwl[M17e-9]
M15w,Flohru[M7e-4]
M16e,kitaguni[M12e-6]
M16w,Frinkanohana[M8e-4]
M17w,Onosho[J6w-9+Gino-sho]
J1e,utinonami[M17w-7]
J1w,Jejima[J11w-10]
J2e,Ruziklao[J1e-7]
J2w,sengyoumi[M16e-6]
J3e,kotohirayama[J8e-9]
J3w,kikkuzakankurou[M11w-3]
J4e,Wamahada[J9e-9]
J4w,Athenayama[J4e-7]
J5e,reeeen[J3w-6]
J5w,Haidouzo[M15w-3]
J6e,Tsuchinoninjin[J9w-8]
J6w,yamanoyama[J6e-7]
J7e,OGAWA[J10e-8]
J7w,kotochikushi[J7e-7]
J8e,DAI[J3e-5]
J8w,fujiyama[J11e-8]
J9e,kuroimori[J4w-6]
J9w,andonishiki[J7w-6]
J10e,Tenshinhan[J13w-8]
J10w,Kishikaisei[Ms5e-8]
J11e,Oskanohana[Ms5w-8=Makushita-yusho]
J11w,Nantonoyama[J2e-2]
J12e,Kaiowaka[J2w-kyujo]
J12w,Kunibiki[J12e-5]
J13e,Takanorappa[J13e-6]
J13w,miyabi[J8w-1]
J14e,bluelion[J10w-kyujo]
J14w,big-jordan[J14w-6]
Ms1e,bafa [J12w-kyujo]
Ms1w,andowan[J14e-kyujo]
Ms2e,Gansekiiwa[Ms1e-4]
Ms2w,Suwihuto[Ms1w-kyujo]
Ms3e,Kintamayama[Ms3e-7]
Ms3w,Kaito[Ms3w-7]
Ms4e,joaoiyama[Ms4e-7]
Ms4w,Golynohana[Ms4w-6]
Ms5e,Onzoushi_oyakata[Ms2e-kyujo]
Ms5w,Sebunshu[Ms2w-kyujo]
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2020,3 のり杯番付

エーヴ文句なしの大関昇進(8~11~12~10勝)

東横綱,長州由紀
西横綱,Pandaazuma
東大関1,突っ張り太郎
西大関1,グロワケ
東大関2,エーヴ
東関脇,大ボラ山
西関脇,Terarno
東小結,アシェット・デローサ
西小結,大翔山
東前頭1,トール
西前頭1,Kyoju
東前頭2,コマサチャン
西前頭2,オットット
東前頭3,鷲が嶺
西前頭3,いえピー
東前頭4,広之海
西前頭4,萩原
東前頭5,ごんざぶろう
西前頭5,やねん
東前頭6,Bill
西前頭6,Kitakachiyama
東前頭7,のりぞう
西前頭7,予想皇
東前頭8,Fujisan
西前頭8,川志
東前頭9,Kotononami
西前頭9,雪氷
東前頭10,はし
西前頭10,chishafuwaku
東前頭11,Anjoboshi
西前頭11,素戔嗚
東前頭12,菅原 勲っち
西前頭12,怪黄
東前頭13,Ganzohnesushi
西前頭13,Asashosakari
東前頭14,関 春秋
西前頭14,祐舟山
東前頭15,ScreechingOwl
西前頭15,Flohru
東前頭16,北国
西前頭16,Frinkanohana
西前頭17,大ノ将
東十両1,内の浪
西十両1,Jejima
東十両2,Ruziklao
西十両2,仙漁海
東十両3,琴平山
西十両3,きっくざ勘九郎
東十両4,Wamahada
西十両4,Athenayama
東十両5,レーン
西十両5,Haidouzo
東十両6,Tsuchinoninjin
西十両6,山の山
東十両7,OGAWA
西十両7,琴筑紫
東十両8,DAI
西十両8,fujiyama
東十両9,kuroimori
西十両9,andonishiki
東十両10,Tenshinhan
西十両10,Kishikaisei
東十両11,Oskanohana
西十両11,Nantonoyama
東十両12,Kaiowaka
西十両12,くにびき
東十両13,Takanorappa
西十両13,雅
東十両14,青獅子
西十両14,大上段
東幕下1,ばふぁ
西幕下1,安土湾
東幕下2,岩石岩
西幕下2,Suwihuto
東幕下3,Kintamayama
西幕下3,Kaito
東幕下4,joaoiyama
西幕下4,Golynohana
東幕下5,御曹司親方
西幕下5,Sebunshu

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On 02/02/2020 at 10:52, Susanoo said:

2020,3 NC-Banzuke

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M11e,Anjoboshi[J2e-10]

M11w,Susanoo[M16w-11]

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Are you sure that Anjoboshi should be leapfrogging Susanoo?

Ganzohnesushi

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1 hour ago, Ganzohnesushi said:

Are you sure that Anjoboshi should be leapfrogging Susanoo? 

Ganzohnesushi

Konbanwa Ganzohnesushi-san,

I owe Anjoboshi-san a debt.
That's a lie.

Juryo is available for promotion of the 2 steps by one win in NC. (Makushita is 3 steps).
It is added for one win more to a participant who got yusho.
But it is similar to Ozumo that it is greatly affected by the situation of the circumference.
In addition, the participants do not need to be grieved that NC does not have Kosho too mucht.
In this example, basically Anjo-san is available for promption of 10 steps and I am available 5 steps. 
The NC makes a chance of the large promotion for the participants.
However, the maintaining the Sanyaku position is very difficult.

Susanoo

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Thanks for your detailed explanation. I was not aware of this special rule. Nevertheless it looks weird somehow that a player with less wins is ranked higher than you now.

Ganzohnesushi

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19 hours ago, Ganzohnesushi said:

Thanks for your detailed explanation. I was not aware of this special rule. Nevertheless it looks weird somehow that a player with less wins is ranked higher than you now.

Ganzohnesushi

Konbanwa Ganzohonesushi-san,

We have made the banzuke rank-deciding with the same standard for nearly 20 years.
We did not feel any question about it, and there is almost none of having heard a complaint.
I have told this standard in the same way as this time when I was asked only once several years ago on this forum.
I recognized that this order looks weird by your indication after a long time but I do not intend to change this original rule at the moment.
The only method for the participants to be unrelated from such an unfairness is to be promoted to Ozeki as soon as possible.
I pray for your promotion and the peace of the heart.

Susanoo

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Yeah I quite like these special rules. Paper Oyakata and Bingo have similar ones.

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On 05/02/2020 at 12:56, Pandaazuma said:

Yeah I quite like these special rules. Paper Oyakata and Bingo have similar ones.

I think that I dislike these special rules, as they don't make sense.

With Bench for the Makushita division, we add more movement for players with KKs than for the top two divisions, but that extra is 'curtailed' once the player hits the Juryo promotion mark, because that is just sensible.

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11 hours ago, Jejima said:

I think that I dislike these special rules, as they don't make sense.

With Bench for the Makushita division, we add more movement for players with KKs than for the top two divisions, but that extra is 'curtailed' once the player hits the Juryo promotion mark, because that is just sensible.

Of course they don't make logical sense but life would be very dull if everything had to! In the main, the banzukes of these games follow our standard rules. I don't mind one lucky bugger getting catapulted from Makushita to sanyaku for winning yusho. No sleep lost! ;)

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20 hours ago, Pandaazuma said:

I don't mind one lucky bugger getting catapulted from Makushita to sanyaku for winning yusho. No sleep lost! ;)

I thought that was strange too, when it happened to me. I can't remember what I wrote at the time, but I think 'surprise' was probably part of it!    

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