Asashosakari

Rikishi Status Kyushu 2019

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1 hour ago, WAKATAKE said:

However at this point he cannot even walk on his own, so getting him on the Shinkansen or plane is logistically difficult.

That's what helicopters are for.

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2 hours ago, WAKATAKE said:

They are hoping to get him back to Tokyo to get a better look at it. However at this point he cannot even walk on his own, so getting him on the Shinkansen or plane is logistically difficult.

They'll have to get a bariatric wheelchair (also know as heavy duty or high capacity wheelchair) so he can travel back to Tokyo. Even if they need to have one sent from Tokyo, it can be shipped in a couple days. A flight is probably the better option for someone who would need assistance going to the restroom. An hour and 25-minute flight versus a five-hour Shinkansen journey.

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The medical certificate for Tomokaze: Right knee joint dislocation accompanied by ligament damage. The length of time for medical treatment is at present undecided. http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20191112/sum19111209330006-n1.html

At least a year means he's out also next Kyushu - and will drop off the banzuke if he doesn't make a last day appearance then.

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You’d think they’d plan for such things. I don’t know any more than has been reported here, so I don’t know why the hospital there can’t treat him. I don’t know if there is some other wrinkle particular to Tomokaze’s health or insurance or whatever. I assume it’s his size, and the hospital just can’t readily accommodate a huge man? If so, why are they having violence contests without a hospital nearby that can treat reasonably expectable injuries? Why don’t they have plans to move invalids back to Tokyo? I know it’s rare, but obviously it happens. From the outside and across an ocean, this looks a mess.

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3 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

At least a year means he's out also next Kyushu - and will drop off the banzuke if he doesn't make a last day appearance then.

Not really.

Either something like

2019.11 M3
2020.01 M15
2020.03 J14
2020.05 Ms15
2020.07 Ms55
2020.09 Sd35
2020.11 Sd95

or

2019.11 M3
2020.01 J1
2020.03 Ms1
2020.05 Ms41
2020.07 Sd21
2020.09 Sd81
2020.11 Jd41

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2 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

Not really.

Thanks for that. "Bg in one year" seemed a little off to me.

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3 hours ago, Churaumi said:

You’d think they’d plan for such things. I don’t know any more than has been reported here, so I don’t know why the hospital there can’t treat him. I don’t know if there is some other wrinkle particular to Tomokaze’s health or insurance or whatever. I assume it’s his size, and the hospital just can’t readily accommodate a huge man? If so, why are they having violence contests without a hospital nearby that can treat reasonably expectable injuries? Why don’t they have plans to move invalids back to Tokyo? I know it’s rare, but obviously it happens. From the outside and across an ocean, this looks a mess.

I also find it hard to believe that a city of 1.6 million people in a country at the forefront of medicine like Japan cannot handle a case like this...

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I can only think of NFL players in a similar situation: splinted while on the ground, then sent off on special carts.  Medical services in the stadium.  If necessary, Medivac to hospital.

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43 minutes ago, serge_gva said:

I also find it hard to believe that a city of 1.6 million people in a country at the forefront of medicine like Japan cannot handle a case like this...

It can handle the initial assessment/treatment of the injury.  The heyas probably have their preferred specialists in Tokyo for the evaluation and treatment of sumo injuries.  He is probably not in need of immediate mitigation.  It's also a logistical problem.  In 2 weeks, everyone will be back in Tokyo.  Do they leave him behind in Fukuoka for long term treatment?

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Poor Tomokaze, what a stroke of rotten luck. His rise to Makuuchi with uninterrupted kachikoshi is such an amazing story, I really hope he can top it off by staging an equally amazing g comeback from the depths of the banzuke. 

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Japan has just hosted the Rugby World Cup, and most teams have had their share of injuries, including dislocations. Admittedly even the biggest forward isn't quite Tomokaze's size, it surely isn't impossible to medi-vac him out by medical helicopter or plane to the Tokyo, if that is where he get best treatment. Surely JSA has a medical person who can travel alongside him. Beside that the American Forces must have a qualified orthopaedic doctor who could organise an assisted transfer if they were asked. Sitting on your hands hoping it fixes itself, will just put Tomokaze's future as a rikishi further backwards.

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50 minutes ago, nukri-nohana said:

TOCHINOSHIN OUT 
broken rib :(

Where? I'm seeing stories he hurt his side in the match but nothing about pulling out. 

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38 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Where? I'm seeing stories he hurt his side in the match but nothing about pulling out. 

The news tell that he said about it: "It's OK. I sleep and it heals" http://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2019111301164&g=spo

But it may hamper him too much to get the 10 wins

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17 minutes ago, Yubinhaad said:

Kyodo is indeed now reporting Tochinoshin as kyujo from Day 5.

Wow, too bad.

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Damn. I have to wonder how much longer he will choose to fight on if/when he loses his Ozeki rank for good. We could be seeing the end of Tochinoshin here. Such a shame to see how he’s fallen, given that two years ago he was arguably the rikishi most wrestling like a future Yokozuna. 

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I doubt he's finished. He was still a yusho contender as recently as May, and he has a young family to provide for.

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1 hour ago, yohcun said:

I doubt he's finished. He was still a yusho contender as recently as May, and he has a young family to provide for.

I'd always considered it as once he knew he'd reached his ceiling, he'd want to be back in Georgia with his family.

You make a good point though, and I selfishly hope you're right as I'm attending my first yusho in January and would love to see him. 

At any rate, tragic end to his Ozeki run. 

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I still can’t get tomokaze’s face off my head, right after the injury his face wasn’t one of pain, it was more like “my career!” Expression. He was in shock. Then when he was in the wheelchair he looked to be in horrible pain. But the face he made the moment he hit the ground was so sad to me, a man on a serious KK streak up until last basho and with everything going for him in his career and then that happens 

 

now tochi. This sucks

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1 hour ago, yohcun said:

I doubt he's finished. He was still a yusho contender as recently as May, and he has a young family to provide for.

He will likely play the Kotoshogiku game until something opens up in Georgia.  His sanyaku days probably are gone. His family stays in Georgia, so MMA and other Japanese enterprises are likely off the table.

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NHK also reports Wakatakakage as kyujo from Day 5 - one month to recover from what Google translates as "dislocation near the right foot instep", so perhaps a Lisfranc/metatarsal dislocation.

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