Akinomaki 28,370 Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) Takakeisho is top in personal kensho with 161, the only to have triple digits. 2 each day are from Yakult, the only new sponsor this basho. Last year Kyushu when he won the yusho he had a total of 30 fixed kensho on his bouts. No 2 is Mitakeumi with 98, then Kotoshogiku with 84. The total number of kensho applied for is as of today 1456, 13 less than what was reported last year before the basho. http://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/201911080000672.html Edit: Sponichi the next morning reports now 166 for Takakeisho Because Nikkan had messed up the Aki banzuke data, I can't calculate the total for last basho and instead give the total kensho ranking for this year before the start of the basho 905 Kakuryu 801 Hakuho 786 Goeido 735 Takakeisho 651 Mitakeumi 607 Takayasu 412 Endo 323 Abi 305 Asanoyama 265 Kotoshogiku 249 Ryuden 244 Tochinoshin 243 Tamawashi 195 Myogiryu 195 Hokutofuji 158 Aoiyama 157 Ichinojo 157 Daieisho 140 Shodai 136 Shohozan 128 Chiyotairyu 126 Tomokaze 98 Takarafuji 93 Onosho 89 Kotoyuki 88 Kagayaki 85 Okinoumi 82 Sadanoumi 74 Enho 69 Nishikigi 62 Yutakayama 62 Meisei 49 Terutsuyoshi 44 Kotoeko 43 Shimanoumi 33 Tsurugisho 27 Daishoho 24 Ishiura 21 Chiyomaru 5 Takanosho 3 Wakatakakage 3 Daishomaru Edited November 8, 2019 by Akinomaki 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,370 Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) After quite a while Hakuho again on the top - he was lucky to have enough kensho for the last bout get distributed to his new last bout. Kensho favorite Takakeisho only had Okinoumi, so Endo in the last ozeki bout could profit - maybe also from more redistributed kensho. Kyushu local Sadanoumi had local kensho favorite Kotoshigiku, which was worth more than Myogiryu with his 1 fixed kensho for Mitakeumi. Enho is still not worth much to the sponsors - Tsurugisho not on the list means he only had 1. Day 1 １９: Hakuho １５: Takakeisho １５: Endo ９: Sadanoumi ７: Mitakeumi ６: Takayasu ５: Takarafuji ４: Ryuden ４: Shodai ２: Meisei ２: Aoiyama ２: Chiyomaru Edited November 10, 2019 by Akinomaki 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,370 Posted November 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Akinomaki said: After quite a while Hakuho again on the top - he was lucky to have enough kensho for the last bout get distributed to his new last bout. Kensho favorite Takakeisho only had Okinoumi, so Endo in the last ozeki bout could profit - maybe also from more redistributed kensho. Confirmed: 11 of the 19 kensho for Hakuho were from the Kakuryu bout. 5 were canceled, the (unspecified) rest went to Endo and Takayasu. http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20191110/sum19111016040004-n1.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,457 Posted November 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Akinomaki said: Enho is still not worth much to the sponsors - Tsurugisho not on the list means he only had 1. Yes, a very lonely one. It was carried by a skinny little kid that looked about 15. I think he was taller than Enho though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,370 Posted November 11, 2019 The last bout and only 13 kensho for a win against Hahuho - only 1 more than the win against Takakeisho was worth - and also Takayasu in the last ozeki bout was not far behind. Day 2 １９: Hakuho １５: Takakeisho １５: Endo １３: Daieisho １２: Asanoyama １０: Sadanoumi １０: Abi ８: Hokutofuji ７: Meisei ７: Yutakayama ７: Mitakeumi 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,370 Posted November 11, 2019 The Goeido bout would have had 6 kensho: 1 kensho was canceled, 3 went to Tsurugisho(-Shohozan), 1 each to Myogiryu(-Tochinoshin) and Hokutofuji(-Mitakeumi). http://www.sankei.com/sports/news/191111/spo1911110021-n1.html Hokutofuji thus had 8, while Mitakeumi on day 1 only had 7 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,370 Posted November 12, 2019 Day 3 ３３: Hakuho ３０: Takakeisho １５: Endo １３: Mitakeumi １３: Daieisho １２: Asanoyama １１: Takayasu １０: Sadanoumi １０: Myogiryu １０: Abi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,370 Posted November 13, 2019 Day 4 ４５: Hakuho ４５: Takakeisho ２０: Daieisho １５: Endo １５: Hokutofuji １４: Shohozan １４: Asanoyama １３: Mitakeumi １２: Sadanoumi １２: Kotoyuki １２: Meisei 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 1,441 Posted November 13, 2019 The disparity between Tokyo-based honbasho and regional ones in terms of kensho is pretty evident in Kyushu. Take the top two kensho hauls on Day 4 of the last three tournaments: Summer (Tokyo): Kakuryu 129; Takakeisho 96 Nagoya: Kakuryu 69; Hakuho 62 Autumn (Tokyo): Kakuryu 134; Takakeisho 73 Comparatively speaking, the 45 kensho for both Hakuho and Takakeisho here in Kyushu is pretty d#$n dismal! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,370 Posted November 14, 2019 Day 5 ６０: Hakuho ４５: Takakeisho ２０: Daieisho １８: Abi １８: Takarafuji １７: Meisei １５: Endo １５: Hokutofuji １５: Asanoyama １４: Shohozan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 1,441 Posted November 14, 2019 Second day in a row that Enho won, but there were no kensho to take home. Despite there being a Kyushu koenkai for his stable, he doesn't seem to be able to attract any local sponsors ... yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 664 Posted November 14, 2019 26 minutes ago, Amamaniac said: Second day in a row that Enho won, but there were no kensho to take home. Despite there being a Kyushu koenkai for his stable, he doesn't seem to be able to attract any local sponsors ... yet. Sponsors might like their charges to have a promising future, and Enho's career may be cut short by a debilitating injury at any time now... but amazingly, he is defying all odds. As long as he fights rikishi who haven't met him often enough to develop a winning strategy against him, he will do well. Longer if he can truly become the new 'waza no depato' capable of surprising his opponents with unusual techniques and unreadable strategies. I definitely root for him. He is a joy to watch. I hope he'll continue defying the odds and become a Makuuchi mainstay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 1,441 Posted November 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, orandashoho said: Sponsors might like their charges to have a promising future, and Enho's career may be cut short by a debilitating injury at any time now... Sponsors should be looking at which Top Division wrestlers are attracting the most attention. Enho fits that bill in spades. But then I'm not a businessman who is looking for ways to attract business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 664 Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Amamaniac said: 17 minutes ago, orandashoho said: Sponsors might like their charges to have a promising future, and Enho's career may be cut short by a debilitating injury at any time now... Sponsors should be looking at which Top Division wrestlers are attracting the most attention. Enho fits that bill in spades. But then I'm not a businessman who is looking for ways to attract business. Perhaps we should revive the idea of Forum members joining in a sponsor group then, and set one kensho each day on Enho's bouts. If the group has enough members, that shouldn't be too expensive. Edited November 14, 2019 by orandashoho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 1,441 Posted November 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, orandashoho said: 14 minutes ago, Amamaniac said: 24 minutes ago, orandashoho said: Sponsors might like their charges to have a promising future, and Enho's career may be cut short by a debilitating injury at any time now... Sponsors should be looking at which Top Division wrestlers are attracting the most attention. Enho fits that bill in spades. But then I'm not a businessman who is looking for ways to attract business. Perhaps we should revive the idea of Forum members joining in a sponsor group then, and set one kensho each day on Enho's bouts. If the group has enough members, that shouldn't be too expensive. As in the past, the idea is really intriguing. Not sure if there has ever been a grass-roots, group kensho sponsor. However, I'm not convinced that the Forum could or would be able to arrange it. But it's a nice thought, and it's the thought that counts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,370 Posted November 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, orandashoho said: Perhaps we should revive the idea of Forum members joining in a sponsor group then, and set one kensho each day on Enho's bouts. If the group has enough members, that shouldn't be too expensive. if 100 take part, it's still not just a trifle On 05/09/2019 at 20:33, Akinomaki said: about 1.1 million yen: about 60 000 yen for the banner and 15 times now 70 000 yen for one kensho each day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,457 Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Amamaniac said: Sponsors should be looking at which Top Division wrestlers are attracting the most attention. Enho fits that bill in spades. But then I'm not a businessman who is looking for ways to attract business. Depends on the sponsors. Sports sponsors are usually looking for 2 things. Wins, a lot. And Big and strong. Neither of which is Enho. He wins, but never in a dominating fashion. Most of the time it's hard to determine if he won because of something he did or because of something his opponent didn't do. A lot of sponsors are food and beverage companies. You can't sell a product with a slogan "Eat X and be big and strong like Enho!" because Enho is nether big nor particularly strong, especially in relation to his peers. If you have him at a product launch it's likely half the room will be taller than him. That doesn't look great in the newspapers or on TV. It doesn't help that he's vocal about disliking thing, like white rice. Imagine being an athlete in Japan and saying you don't like rice. If he has an agent he must have had a heart attack hearing that. I doubt he'll ever get many consistent sponsors. If he does it will probably be for things like cars or other items guys buy to look cool despite their shortcomings. For women, the ability to attract attention can lead to significant pay days. For men, not as much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 1,441 Posted November 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Rocks said: Depends on the sponsors. Sports sponsors are usually looking for 2 things. Wins, a lot. And Big and strong. Neither of which is Enho. I suppose you are right, although wee Enho deserves more sponsorship than he is getting IMHO. While Enho is pretty new to the Top Division, I think he would be great advertising vehicle. I remember watching all the kensho on Takamisakari's bouts back when I started following sumo, and he wasn't all that big or all that strong (relatively speaking), so aside from his corner antics and walk down the hanamichi, I couldn't figure out why he was getting all the sponsorship/attention that he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,457 Posted November 14, 2019 56 minutes ago, Amamaniac said: I suppose you are right, although wee Enho deserves more sponsorship than he is getting IMHO. While Enho is pretty new to the Top Division, I think he would be great advertising vehicle. I remember watching all the kensho on Takamisakari's bouts back when I started following sumo, and he wasn't all that big or all that strong (relatively speaking), so aside from his corner antics and walk down the hanamichi, I couldn't figure out why he was getting all the sponsorship/attention that he did. I'm not suggesting Enho couldn't get a lot of sponsors. Having a great personality or gimmick a goes a long way. Enho can to do the same. Similar to Ikioi and singing. Look what Kotoshogiku did for himself. Yes, he became Ozeki but his popularity and steadfast sponsors don't really stem from that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 664 Posted November 15, 2019 19 hours ago, Akinomaki said: if 100 take part, it's still not just a trifle about 1.1 million yen: about 60 000 yen for the banner and 15 times now 70 000 yen for one kensho each day. If there were 100 to share that cost, I'd join. And do this for more than one basho. With 100 or more joining, it's still a fraction of what physical attendance would cost me. Why would I be the only one who is seriously interested? We could start a poll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,370 Posted November 15, 2019 Day 6 ７２: Hakuho ４５: Takakeisho ２５: Takarafuji ２２: Abi ２２: Endo ２１: Myogiryu ２０: Daieisho １８: Hokutofuji １７: Meisei １７: Tamawashi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,370 Posted November 16, 2019 Day 7 ９１: Hakuho ６１: Takakeisho ３４: Endo ２５: Abi ２５: Takarafuji ２２: Takayasu ２２: Mitakeumi ２１: Myogiryu ２１: Daieisho １８: Hokutofuji 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,370 Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) Asanoyama still not back in the rankings - he also has not much sponsor support yet Day 8 １１３: Hakuho ７３: Takakeisho ３９: Endo ３０: Mitakeumi ２５: Abi ２５: Takarafuji ２３: Shohozan ２２: Takayasu ２２: Daieisho ２１: Kagayaki ２１: Myogiryu Edited November 17, 2019 by Akinomaki 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,370 Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) Takayasu today was the rare case of a rikishi who appears in the dohyo-iri and then goes kyujo for his bout of the day. It was so sudden that no kensho could be redistributed and all 12 were canceled. http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20191117/sum19111721110014-n1.html Edited November 17, 2019 by Akinomaki 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 28,370 Posted November 18, 2019 Daieisho still on the list, komusubi Asanoyama still not - even Kagayaki has more Day 9 １３０: Hakuho ８６: Takakeisho ４１: Mitakeumi ３９: Endo ３０: Abi ２８: Shohozan ２５: Takarafuji ２３: Kagayaki ２２: Takayasu ２２: Daieisho 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
