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GTB- Guess the Banzuke- Kyushu 2019 -and results!!

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No milk today.

Rules: Guess the Banzuke. Simple. You get two points for a bulls-eye and one point for just getting the rank right. You get no points for overcooking the kebab. Tiebreakers - Most total guesses, then we check the banzuke backwards - getting the lower half right will be important.  The most correct guesses in the last ten places will win the tiebreaker. If still tied , we go up a ranking at a time like a penalty shootout. It's up to you to check if you are on the list of entries. It's going to be your fault if you don't notice that your entry went missing in the Internet void. No late entries will be expected or accepted.

For rules, standings and charcoals:
http://www.dichne.com/Guess.htm

For the nifty entry form:
http://sumodb.sumoga...b/GTBEntry.aspx

For the "new" archives:
http://sumodb.sumoga...gtbarchive.aspx

Free online live sumo for foreign sumo fans as well!!
http://inyourdreams-suckers.tv

Special helper for your banzuke-making, courtesy of Tsuchinoninjin:

http://sumoninjin.droppages.com/sumoHBcustom.html

Deadline- Monday, October 21st, 2019  at 18:00 GMT ("Grand Motor Theft") - PLEASE NOTE-THIS IS ONE WEEK BEFORE THE OFFICIAL BANZUKE ANNOUNCEMENT !!

Special thanks to Andoreasu who runs it, Doitsuyama who automates and maintains it  and to healing..

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Well, I'm in, for what it's worth. I hated doing this one, not only because getting the wrong number of sanyaku will utterly screw me, but also because it was a nightmare throughout. Plenty of banana skins in there and basically I'll be happy with a kachi koshi. If I screw this up, my top ranking will be destroyed for a year as well. GUESS the banzuke indeed.

GAMBARIMASU!

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Trying this out for the second time after missing the deadline last time.  Not that my score would have been anywhere near the top....  :)

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67 entries now that I am in.

But as ususal I don' t expect much from it myself (Thinkingindepth...)

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On 11/10/2019 at 22:00, Pandaazuma said:

Well, I'm in, for what it's worth. I hated doing this one, not only because getting the wrong number of sanyaku will utterly screw me, but also because it was a nightmare throughout. Plenty of banana skins in there and basically I'll be happy with a kachi koshi. If I screw this up, my top ranking will be destroyed for a year as well. GUESS the banzuke indeed.

GAMBARIMASU!

We are/were all in the same boat.   KK will be my goal (and best result in three tries).

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That was certainly an attempt. Probably a horrible one, but still (Idunno...)

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Anything can happen here from 13-2 to 1-14 depending on an additional Sanyaku slot or not.

Ganzohnesushi 

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Well, I'm in. Anything less than a crushing victory would have to rate as a disappointment.

(Don't worry, the drugs I've used in making my entry will soon wear off.)

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just squeezed in my entry (no. 97), deciding to be totally greedy in regards to potential extra sanyaku slots.

After submitting it, I counted a total of 98 entries - will we crack 100?

 

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Okay, I'm in. 2 things for sure. This will be great or terrible here, no in between. This is a house of cards basically, ready to fall. The 2nd thing is I think where the low win guys around Joi end up will have a bigger impact than the Sanyaku IMO.

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On 19/10/2019 at 11:32, RaeucherLax said:

67 entries now that I am in.

But as ususal I don' t expect much from it myself (Thinkingindepth...)

I feel the same about mine.   Good Luck! (Cheers...)

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I remembered to enter this time, but maybe I should have forgotten again given the potential craziness. 

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My pick. Now that I look at it again, I hate it. Oh well. You can't finish worse than last right?

Kakuryu (Y1e 4-4-7) Y1 Hakuho (Y1w 0-2-13)
     
Goeido (O1w 10-5) O1 Takayasu (O1e 0-0-15)
Takakeisho (S1w 12-3 D) O2  
     
Mitakeumi (S1e 12-3 Y) S1 Tochinoshin (O2e 6-9)
     
Abi (K1e 9-6) K1 Endo (K1w 8-7)
  K2 Hokutofuji (M1e 9-6)
Asanoyama (M2w 10-5) M1 Daieisho (M3e 8-7)
Okinoumi (M8e 11-4) M2 Meisei (M10w 10-5)
Takarafuji (M8w 9-6) M3 Tomokaze (M3w 7-8)
Tamawashi (M4e 7-8) M4 Myogiryu (M6w 8-5-2)
Aoiyama (M1w 5-10) M5 Kotoyuki (M9w 9-6)
Ryuden (M5w 7-8) M6 Onosho (M11e 9-6)
Sadanoumi (M10e 8-7) M7 Tsurugisho (M14e 10-5)
Kotoeko (M7w 7-8) M8 Enho (M11w 9-6)
Shohozan (M12e 9-6) M9 Yutakayama (M16e 10-5)
Kotoshogiku (M7e 6-9) M10 Ishiura (M15e 8-7)
Shimanoumi (M6e 5-10) M11 Takanosho (J2e 10-5)
Shodai (M4w 3-12) M12 Wakatakakage (J3w 9-6)
Ichinojo (M2e 1-4-10) M13 Chiyomaru (J1e 8-7)
Chiyotairyu (M5e 2-13) M14 Daishomaru (J5e 10-5)
Kagayaki (M13e 6-9) M15 Nishikigi (M13w 6-9)
Terutsuyoshi (M9e 4-11) M16 Daishoho (M12w 5-10)

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I went with the no extra slot route. I think a 9-6 is not convincing enough to force the NSK to promote HKT.

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6 hours ago, WAKATAKE said:

I went with the no extra slot route. I think a 9-6 is not convincing enough to force the NSK to promote HKT.

All 47 M1e 9-6 have been promoted to san'yaku. 

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My rather questionable entry:

Kakuryu (Ye 4-4-7)        Y    Hakuho (Yw 0-2-13)
Goeido (O1w 10-5)         O1   Takayasu (O1e 0-0-15)
Takakeisho (Sw 12-3 D)    O2   ---
Mitakeumi (Se 12-3 Y)     S    Tochinoshin (O2e 6-9)
Abi (Ke 9-6)              K1   Endo (Kw 8-7)
---                       K2   Hokutofuji (M1e 9-6)

Asanoyama (M2w 10-5)      M1   Daieisho (M3e 8-7)
Okinoumi (M8e 11-4)       M2   Myogiryu (M6w 8-5-2)
Meisei (M10w 10-5)        M3   Takarafuji (M8w 9-6)
Tomokaze (M3w 7-8)        M4   Tamawashi (M4e 7-8)
Aoiyama (M1w 5-10)        M5   Kotoyuki (M9w 9-6)
Ryuden (M5w 7-8)          M6   Onosho (M11e 9-6)
Enho (M11w 9-6)           M7   Tsurugisho (M14e 10-5)
Kotoeko (M7w 7-8)         M8   Shohozan (M12e 9-6)
Sadanoumi (M10e 8-7)      M9   Kotoshogiku (M7e 6-9)
Shimanoumi (M6e 5-10)     M10  Yutakayama (M16e 10-5)
Shodai (M4w 3-12)         M11  Ichinojo (M2e 1-4-10)
Chiyotairyu (M5e 2-13)    M12  Ishiura (M15e 8-7)
Takanosho (J2e 10-5)      M13  Terutsuyoshi (M9e 4-11)
Kagayaki (M13e 6-9)       M14  Nishikigi (M13w 6-9)
Chiyomaru (J1e 8-7)       M15  Daishoho (M12w 5-10)
Daishomaru (J5e 10-5)     M16  Wakatakakage (J3w 9-6)

This edition's "changes I made from my initial draft that I hope I don't regret" file: Flipped the M5's and flipped stablemates Daishoho and Daishomaru.

I almost moved Kotoeko back to M7w, but I assumed they wouldn't keep him at the same rank if they're not doing it for the other three 7-8's not far ahead of him. Of course it's entirely possible I'm wrong about Tomokaze / Tamawashi / Ryuden's half-rank demotions, too...

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I submitted my entry long ago.   If I knew Asashokari and others would go public with their entries, I would have waited to copy reviewed their entries before submitting mine.  (Anidea...)

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25 minutes ago, robnplunder said:

I submitted my entry long ago.   If I knew Asashokari and others would go public with their entries, I would have waited to copy reviewed their entries before submitting mine.  (Anidea...)

... after the GTB deadline - what for? 

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100 entries? Is this possible? Without me pleading even once? Thank you all for playing..

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What are the scoring rules for hits in sanyaku? If you predict Hokutofuji at K1W and he is actually put at K2W, would that be 1 or nil points? As they are not on the same 'line', it is different to the clear-cut Maegashira case.

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3 hours ago, Pandaazuma said:

What are the scoring rules for hits in sanyaku? If you predict Hokutofuji at K1W and he is actually put at K2W, would that be 1 or nil points? As they are not on the same 'line', it is different to the clear-cut Maegashira case.

I don't know but I think it would be 1 point. The  1st point, Hit, is for getting the Rank right. The 2nd, Bullseye, is for getting the exact placement. Getting K right is still getting the rank right.

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