Jabbamaru 144 Posted September 12, 2019 15 hours ago, Otokonoyama said: Right shoulder dislocated. Possibly going kyujo. My poor baby... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Houmanumi 201 Posted September 12, 2019 Ichinojo kyujo confirmed: http://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/absence/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 27,982 Posted September 12, 2019 Looks like the monkey isn't fit for flying anymore - Tobizaru limped after the bout Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 581 Posted September 12, 2019 Yoshikaze intai just officially announced on NHK broadcast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 1,742 Posted September 12, 2019 Hochi has it on their site: https://hochi.news/articles/20190912-OHT1T50114.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,142 Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Akinomaki said: Looks like the monkey isn't fit for flying anymore - Tobizaru limped after the bout It was that or fly out of the dohyo and risk a torinaoshi due to a shinitai situation. The price one pays for keep one leg inside the bale while doing the split to avoid dohyo contact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted September 12, 2019 Chiyonokuni in a close one. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted September 12, 2019 Terunofuji punches the...clock. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,142 Posted September 12, 2019 After yesterday’s defeat, Enho-mania came roaring back again today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 813 Posted September 12, 2019 Takakiesho is 5-0. Who'd have thought that start? He's half way to getting his Ozeki rank back. With Takayasu & Hak out, Takakeisho may just do it. 100 yen says he gets at least 10 wins. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainoyama 1,152 Posted September 12, 2019 Mainoumi analysis of Takakeisho's win against Hokutofuji today "We could see the impact of the weight difference between the two, not only Takakeisho is heavier but his sumo and his strikes are heavy. Hokutofuji was losing the oshi battle so he tried to move around and when he attacked he threw himself at Takakeisho to generate more power but lost his balance" 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 813 Posted September 12, 2019 Anyone's basho with Kak's loss today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 107 Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) Is my query incorrect, or is it really uncharted territory for an ozekiwake to take the yusho? And yes, I'm knocking on wood at the moment. Edited September 12, 2019 by Koorifuu 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 2,087 Posted September 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, Koorifuu said: Is my query incorrect, or is it really uncharted territory for an ozekiwake to take the yusho? And yes, I'm knocking on wood at the moment. Yes. For one there haven’t been that many successful returns to Ozeki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morty 1,213 Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) I've thought this for a while now but I think Asanoyama will be the next Ozeki and probably the next Yokozuna (the only one who will beat him to the latter is Takakeisho). Also, is Aoiyama carrying an injury or is he just not doing very well? Also, also, Endo 4-1 in Sanyaku... finally healthy and learned how to win tough. Edited September 12, 2019 by Morty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lackmaker 260 Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, robnplunder said: Takakiesho is 5-0. Who'd have thought that start? He's half way to getting his Ozeki rank back. With Takayasu & Hak out, Takakeisho may just do it. 100 yen says he gets at least 10 wins. Hardly a generous offer as he must be clear favourite to achieve the 10 now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raishu 170 Posted September 12, 2019 42 minutes ago, Morty said: I've thought this for a while now but I think Asanoyama will be the next Ozeki and probably the next Yokozuna (the only one who will beat him to the latter is Takakeisho). Nothing personal against your assumption, but what exactly makes you think that he will be the next Ozeki (and that he will be able to get the rope eventually)? This is only his second basho in the Joi-ranks, we basically do not know anything about his long-term performance against the highest ranked opposition. I don't want to take away any credit for his Yusho, but this was mostly achieved by wins against lower ranked Makuuchi Rikishi and fueled by a struggling (or non-present) top group. So I don't regard this as an indicator neither. I hope he will prove me wrong, but so far I can't see anything that makes him different from other former collegiate Rikishi who are Sanyaku material, but struggle to move to the very top after they have reached Sekiwake (Shodai once showed potential but has vanished ever since, Mitakeumi still lacking consistency and with only one double digit record in Sanyaku so far). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morty 1,213 Posted September 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Raishu said: Nothing personal against your assumption, but what exactly makes you think that he will be the next Ozeki (and that he will be able to get the rope eventually)? This is only his second basho in the Joi-ranks, we basically do not know anything about his long-term performance against the highest ranked opposition. I don't want to take away any credit for his Yusho, but this was mostly achieved by wins against lower ranked Makuuchi Rikishi and fueled by a struggling (or non-present) top group. So I don't regard this as an indicator neither. I hope he will prove me wrong, but so far I can't see anything that makes him different from other former collegiate Rikishi who are Sanyaku material, but struggle to move to the very top after they have reached Sekiwake (Shodai once showed potential but has vanished ever since, Mitakeumi still lacking consistency and with only one double digit record in Sanyaku so far). Gut feeling . He just seems to have the luck and the ability to get it done. I'm probably wrong. I usually am. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 3,536 Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rainoyama said: Mainoumi analysis of Takakeisho's win against Hokutofuji today "We could see the impact of the weight difference between the two, not only Takakeisho is heavier but his sumo and his strikes are heavy." Takakeisho heavier than Hokutofuji?? Not in my world... Edit: Ok, I've just checked on NattoSumo's video where Takakeisho is listed at 169kg and Hokutofuji at 161kg. Still not my world... Edited September 12, 2019 by Jakusotsu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 2,087 Posted September 12, 2019 39 minutes ago, Raishu said: Nothing personal against your assumption, but what exactly makes you think that he will be the next Ozeki (and that he will be able to get the rope eventually)? This is only his second basho in the Joi-ranks, we basically do not know anything about his long-term performance against the highest ranked opposition. I don't want to take away any credit for his Yusho, but this was mostly achieved by wins against lower ranked Makuuchi Rikishi and fueled by a struggling (or non-present) top group. So I don't regard this as an indicator neither. I hope he will prove me wrong, but so far I can't see anything that makes him different from other former collegiate Rikishi who are Sanyaku material, but struggle to move to the very top after they have reached Sekiwake (Shodai once showed potential but has vanished ever since, Mitakeumi still lacking consistency and with only one double digit record in Sanyaku so far). Enho aside, he’s arguably the most accomplished grappler among the young Japanese hopefuls right now and time-honoured wisdom suggests one needs a decent yotsu game to make Yokozuna. That gives him an edge. Moreover, he only needs to be better than his peers, and let’s face it the competition isn’t that spectacular. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nelimw 26 Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) Thoughts and questions for today: 1. Is a Enho v. Ishiura match possible this tourney? I would love to see them go at it. 2. I've been noticing the crowd at these events has a great ratio of women to men. I can't think of any other sport that has a spectator ratio of women to men as even as Sumo. Has Sumo always been this way? Edited September 12, 2019 by nelimw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,451 Posted September 12, 2019 Good win for Tochinoshin. I was surprised to see him go for a pull down with the head given the call Day 4. I'm sure Tomokaze didn't expect that either explaining the easy win. he has Tamawashi Day 6 whish should be interesting. Tamawashi looks better this basho and has a rest today but he still seems a bit off so I give the edge to Tochinoshin. Takakeisho looks incredible. I didn't expect the leg to bother him but I didn't expect him to look so sharp either. I don't know about the yusho but I think his 10 wins are in the bag, barring injury. I don't know about Asanoyama's future but given the state of the ranks it's looking pretty bright. How Goeido handles him Day 6 will say a lot about Goeido's chances for the yusho this basho. Asanoyama will have some competition in Tomokaze who is not looking terrible facing the Sanyaku and still has a lot of technique yet to learn. Very sad about Ichinojo but dislocations usually heal well. He should have a easy time next basho against the lower rankers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,451 Posted September 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, nelimw said: 1. Is a Enho v. Ishiura match possible this tourney? I would love to see them go at it. it's not possible in any basho unless they face each other in a playoff for the Yusho. They are in the same heya. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 2,087 Posted September 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, nelimw said: Thoughts and questions for today: 1. Is a Enho v. Ishiura match possible this tourney? I would love to see them go at it. 2. I've been noticing the crowd at these events has a great ratio of women to men. I can't think of any other sport that has a spectator ratio of women to men as even as Sumo. Has Sumo always been this way? The only way you’ll see them fight is at keiko, since the chance of even one of the two making a yusho playoff is negligible and for both to make it is essentially nil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 107 Posted September 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Rocks said: it's not possible in any basho unless they face each other in a playoff for the Yusho. They are in the same heya. 1 minute ago, Eikokurai said: The only way you’ll see them fight is at keiko, since the chance of even one of the two making a yusho playoff is negligible and for both to make it is essentially nil. If that happened, I dare say we'd see Hakuho's biggest smile ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites