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2019 Aki Basho Discussion (spoiler alert!)

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1 hour ago, Ryoshishokunin said:

Jakusotsu: Any basho with more than 1 yokozuna and 8 or fewer active san'yaku on day 1 will get you there.  Not sure when that last happened.

Exactly. Didn't find any case in the GOAT era.

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8 hours ago, Morty said:

A bit different here - Tochinoshin's wife and kids are in Georgia rather than Japan, and maybe he'd like to spend time with them and watch his kids grow up, rather than living in the heya with a bunch of guys? And he doesn't speak great Japanese.

As far as I know, Tochinoshin was in Japan between Nagoya and Aki basho. He visited Georgia  in between Natsu and Nagoya and during Nagoya he had 5 Straight loses.

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Enho post win interview "I'm glad I could get that left grip early, my opponent moved just at the right moment for me to execute the throw"

Some news on veteran Toyonoshima (0-2 so far), he said he hurt his right foot just near the achilles just before the basho and that the pain is bothering him.

"When I climb on the dohyo I don't think about it at all, but as soon as I am on the dohyo no matter what I do I can't help but think about it. It's not good to fight scared, I need to start enjoying sumo a bit more when I'm fighting" he declared.

 

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Some more entertaining bouts today. From the lower end of the banzuke I enjoyed Yutakayama’s win over Takagenji and Azumaryu, who I mistook for Ryuden at first, recovering on the bails to beat Toyonoshima. Takagenji is now on a 12-bout losing streak in Makuuchi. 

In the middle order (sorry, been watching the Ashes so got cricket jargon on the brain) I thought Nishikigi’s slow-burner against Daishoho and Onosho’s inexplicable defeat to Sadanoumi (Onosho really does know how to lose, eh?) were both fun, but the obvious choice for best bout there was Enho’s brilliant final move on Meisei. Special mention for Terutsuyoshi spilling more salt on his way off the dohyo than he throws before the bout.

Mitakeumi and Daieisho’s bout was probably my favourite bout of the day. Mita got the win but Daieisho made him work hard for it. Great stuff.

Takakeisho looked much better than yesterday. I feel confident about his chances at ten wins.

Hard to say if Asanoyama is in good shape because Tochinoshin looked pants again. He couldn’t take any pressure on that knee. He’s done for me thinks. Goeido on the other hand is looking solid.

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7 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

Special mention for Terutsuyoshi spilling more salt on his way off the dohyo than he throws before the bout.

No way! That was merely half of the basket. B-)

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Enho is rapidly becoming a favorite. Doesn't always win, but he's just so entertaining to watch. Regarding Hakuho's kyujo, all I can figure is it must hurt a lot. I have read, but do not know if it is true, that losing one's pinkie reduces that hand's grip strength by 50%. If that is true, and Hakuho's not able to use his pinkie, then that would indeed constitute a serious problem for his sumo.

Daieisho damn near had that match. I like to see rikishi bring that kind of passion early on.

Also good to see Tamawashi looking like the fighter we all know he can be. I do hope he'll refrain from destroying anyone's elbow, however.

I had high hopes for Ichinojo coming in with a depleted upper tier in sanyaku, but less so now. He could still rally. We'll see. Goeido, on the other hand, looked strong and aggressive. If he's firing on all cylinders then he could be a yusho contender.

[I'm just not gonna comment on Takakeisho. Don't wanna jinx him.]

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11 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Yes, and I'm sure Asashosakari will agree.

I do agree. There's no compelling reason to have two Y-K matches on Day 1 when there are 30 or fewer intra-sanyaku matchups available, so it's hardly surprising what happened on Sunday. The last two comparable cases (2 active Y, 2 active K, 8 active sanyaku total) were Natsu 1997 and Natsu 1991 and both had the lower-ranked Y against a maegashira.

The same also happened in Natsu last year with just 7 sanyaku, so I have no idea what specialweek thought he remembered about Hakuho and Kakuryu always facing komusubi. 

Edit: There was also a load of such tournaments in the mid-1990s with 9 active sanyaku but enough disallowed same-stable matchups to be below the magic number. 

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More on day 2 from nikkan.

 

立ち合いで北勝富士(右)の顔面を両手で突く鶴竜(撮影・小沢裕)

With Hakuho Kyujo from day two, Kakuryu is now the only Yokozuna still in and therefore the prime candidate to get the yusho. He refuses to let the pressure get to him though "I just have to focus everyday. It's not like it's the first time I'm the only yokozuna competing." he commented. On his convincing win against Hokutofuji today after pulling a bit yesterday against Endo. "My body reacted well today, I faced Hokutofuji in training before the basho so I knew what to expect".   That picture though...  https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/201909090000632.html

千代大龍(右)を押し出しで破る玉鷲(撮影・中島郁夫)

Tamawashi is back in form after his bad showing last basho, 2-0 to start and looking good. "If it feels good ? Of course it does !  I want to communicate this joy because it's been so long [since I last performed this well] !" he said with his usual goofy smile on his face. On his bad showing last basho as a sekiwake (5-10 but was 1-10 at some point) "You can throw away that version of me already". Early days yet but Hakuho and Takayasu are out and Tochinoshin is struggling, Tamawashi already has a yusho to his name and will look to snatch his second if Kakuryu and Goeido are not careful. https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/201909090000710.html

栃ノ心(右)を寄り切りで破る朝乃山(撮影・小沢裕)

Asanoyama showed good sumo again on day 2 after his win against Mitakeumi on day 1. He beat injured Ozeki Tochinoshin again to lead 3-1 against him. Tochinoshin likes to train with Asanoyama because he is a powerful migi yotsu specialist just like him. "Attacking forward was the only thing on my mind today. I wanted to repay the Ozeki [for allowing me to train with him and teaching me]" reflected Asonoyama. https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/201909090000769.html

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I agree.. Kakuryu is not safe at all. A surging Hokotofuji a resurging  Tamawashi and a rested Takakeishou and Goedeo ? Who knows ?.. I don't mind Hak being out.. This is the future.. 

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5 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

I do agree. There's no compelling reason to have two Y-K matches on Day 1 when there are 30 or fewer intra-sanyaku matchups available, so it's hardly surprising what happened on Sunday. The last two comparable cases (2 active Y, 2 active K, 8 active sanyaku total) were Natsu 1997 and Natsu 1991 and both had the lower-ranked Y against a maegashira.

The same also happened in Natsu last year with just 7 sanyaku, so I have no idea what specialweek thought he remembered about Hakuho and Kakuryu always facing komusubi. 

Edit: There was also a load of such tournaments in the mid-1990s with 9 active sanyaku but enough disallowed same-stable matchups to be below the magic number. 

So your idea if normal under the day 1 scenario I originally asked is to go back 22 years. Respect your knowledge but it is unusual.

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5 hours ago, specialweek 2 said:

Respect your knowledge but it is unusual.

Unusual, agreed, but still normal. B-)

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Man, Kotoyuki had a good tachi ai, did good sumo all the way and literally tried everything he could but still it wasn't enough to beat Enho, the little man is growing !

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I really like the sumo Enho shows this basho. A see his technique improving towards a more "correct" sumo. I hope he will continue this way, thus reducing the risk of a severe injury. 

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7 hours ago, specialweek 2 said:
13 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

 

 So your idea if normal under the day 1 scenario I originally asked is to go back 22 years. Respect your knowledge but it is unusual.

It turns out that the scenario that generates those matchups is unusual--there's been a loooong period with more than four upper-san'yaku rikishi.  As Asashosakari pointed out, the same sort of thing happened last year when san'yaku was even more depleted.  It's simple math--anyone that plays Guess Kisenosato's Aite (now under new ownership) would get the day 1-2 torikumi correct if they knew that Takayasu was absent.

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Not happy with Enho’s reception yesterday, today it is the turn of Mitakeumi to draft in about 500 screaming schoolchildren to supplement his meager fandom inside the kokugikan (still cannot compared to yesterday’s enthusiasm for Enho).

edit: has anyone seen Asanoyama go for such a low tachiai lunge before?

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Is it just me or does Mitakeumi look kind of slow - carrying too much weight?

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6 minutes ago, Morty said:

Is it just me or does Mitakeumi look kind of slow - carrying too much weight?

I agree. 

Terrible night of sumo.  If I had been there I'd of gone to the window, quickly slapped down my ticket, and asked for my money back.  

I don't know why the guys just don't forgo mawashi and just wear shorts. It' not like anyone has any interest in grabbing it anymore. 

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3 Favorite Matches on Day 3:

1. Enho... need I say more? 

2. Happy for Tochinoshin's 1st win. Hard fought, it look like he really gave it his all!

2. That recovery by Endo vs Goeido was amazing.

 

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19 minutes ago, Rocks said:

 

I don't know why the guys just don't forgo mawashi and just wear shorts. It' not like anyone has any interest in grabbing it anymore. 

The Endo/Goeido, Enho/Kotoyuki and Tochinoshin/Hokotofuji matches were all great belt battles. True some of the other matches were a bit meh, but those three were awesome

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Kotoyuki's strategy today was on point, he just wasn't quick enough to follow through with it. But man is Enho going places

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