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Yoshikaze situation

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On 19/12/2020 at 06:55, Kaninoyama said:

I think this photo tells us everything we need to know about whether the story is true or not.

yoshikaze.jpg

“I can’t believe I’m paying for this...”

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21 hours ago, since_94 said:

“I can’t believe I’m paying for this...”

More like: "I can't believe this is my life..."

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2 hours ago, Kaninoyama said:

More like: "I can't believe this is my life..."

Seriously, it must be more fun getting your face bloodied and your skull concussed. Sweet relief after such other "entertainments".

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On 28/12/2020 at 00:06, Kaninoyama said:

More like: "I can't believe this is my life..."

Wife: " it’s a tea set I’m sending to my aunt for her Xxxxth birthday, if memory serves. She always had violent artistic instincts..."
 

Husband: "There should be a law against this kind of object. The people are not protected! 
It’s a thing from the same family that scared Quasimodo’s mother and influenced the dear boy’s physique.
One day Martians will land on Earth, they’ll see this and it’ll be interplanetary war.
Illuminate each stable with such a lamp and milk will disappear from the surface of the globe.
In a word as in a hundred, I find this object slightly disgraceful." 

(adapted from French Comic "Achille Talon)

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Weekly periodical Shukan Shincho has obtained video that appears to show Yoshikaze's soon-to-be ex-wife verbally abusing their children. 

Yoshikaze acknowledged that it is his children in the video, and said he just wants taking care of his kids, who are now living with him, to be his top priority right now.

Article (Japanese only)

 

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4 hours ago, Kaninoyama said:

Yoshikaze's children incurring domestic violence at the hands of his soon-to-be ex-wife.

Are you trying to say she smacked her kids?

'Incurring' suggests they deserved it/brought it upon themselves, and 'domestic violence' could be anything but it's a phrase I associate with wife/husband beating.

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33 minutes ago, RabidJohn said:

'Incurring' suggests they deserved it/brought it upon themselves, and 'domestic violence' could be anything but it's a phrase I associate with wife/husband beating.

DV definitely includes beating (etc.) of both children and elders as well as the more common spousal abuse.  As long as it's 'within the family'.

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1 hour ago, RabidJohn said:

Are you trying to say she smacked her kids?

'Incurring' suggests they deserved it/brought it upon themselves, and 'domestic violence' could be anything but it's a phrase I associate with wife/husband beating.

Please excuse my poor choice of words as I provided a hasty translation with little time to do so. 

The Japanese word used was 虐待 which is typically translated as "abuse," so a "video of the mother subjecting their children to abuse" might be a better way to word it. And the examples given in the article seem to be more of the nature of verbal abuse rather than physical. 

And no, the kids certainly did not "deserve" it. No child "deserves" to be abused. 

Original posted edited for clarity. 

 

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7 hours ago, Kaninoyama said:

No child "deserves" to be abused. 

I hope I didn't come across as suggesting they do! It's merely the definition of 'incur'.

 

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The wife was arrested under suspicion of physical abuse of their daughter. Apparently there was video evidence. 

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Good lord.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20210322/k10012928621000.html

NHK reports that the charges are that ex-Yoshikaze's wife allegedly abused their 11 year-old daughter by hitting her, kicking her, and spraying insect repellant into her eyes. Per article, the daughter took video of the abuse on her phone. The only mention of ex-Yoshikaze himself is that the daughter 'consulted with him', so I guess the implication is that he was the one who took it to the police (I hope so!).

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Talk about bad taste in women. Poor Yoshikaze, and poor daughter.

I know there's much worse things going on in the world, but this is abhorrent. No child should be abused by their own mother.

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Gutted for Yoshikaze and even more so for his daughter. Clearly his soon to be ex-wife harbors some resentment and is taking it out on the family. I hope Yoshikaze gets custody of his children and is able to be the father they need.

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Props to Yoshikaze for doing the "embarrassing" thing and taking it to the police, rather than going into denial.

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On 22/03/2021 at 06:03, apraxin said:

NHK reports that the charges are that ex-Yoshikaze's wife allegedly abused their 11 year-old daughter by hitting her, kicking her, and spraying insect repellant into her eyes. Per article, the daughter took video of the abuse on her phone. The only mention of ex-Yoshikaze himself is that the daughter 'consulted with him', so I guess the implication is that he was the one who took it to the police (I hope so!).

The wife today got a fine of 300 000Yen from the Tokyo summary court http://www.sanspo.com/geino/news/20210402/tro21040218410001-n1.html

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That's kind of disappointing, but I hope justice was done and she learned her lesson.

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Hopefully the court also issued a restraining order, since attacking a child with a household chemical is not only batshit crazy but dangerous to an extreme degree. Different stuff present in every household would have cost the kid her eyesight.

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Just remember. There are two sides to every story, especially in domestic disputes, and most of us have only heard one of those sides so far.

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7 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

Just remember. There are two sides to every story, especially in domestic disputes, and most of us have only heard one of those sides so far.

What exactly is “other side”  of  the mother kicking her daughter and generally abusing her? This specifically is not a domestic dispute, not by a long shot. She was found guilty by a neutral third party that actually counts.

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9 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

Just remember. There are two sides to every story, especially in domestic disputes, and most of us have only heard one of those sides so far.

I assume you are referring to his wife and regarding her dispute with Yoshikaze as the other side, not the issue of the minor who got abused.

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11 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

There are two sides to every story, especially in domestic disputes...

I see I'm not the only one who found this case's original description as being "domestic violence" very misleading...

This was a child-abuse case, and no doubt the mother got to give her "side of the story" in court - where she was found guilty.

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