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Makuuchi

Kakuryu      Y    Hakuho
Goeido       O    Takayasu
Takakeisho   O    Tochinoshin
Mitakeumi    S    Tamawashi
Abi          K    Ryuden
Asanoyama    M1   Hokutofuji
Aoiyama      M2   Endo
Shodai       M3   Daieisho
Meisei       M4   Ichinojo
Kotoshogiku  M5   Takarafuji
Chiyotairyu  M6   Shimanoumi
Myogiryu     M7   Tomokaze
Onosho       M8   Okinoumi
Shohozan     M9   Daishoho
Kotoeko      M10  Takagenji
Yoshikaze    M11  Nishikigi
Tochiozan    M12  Kagayaki
Chiyomaru    M13  Sadanoumi
Toyonoshima  M14  Enho
Yago         M15  Kaisei
Kotoyuki     M16  Terutsuyoshi
 

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Juryo

Tokushoryu    J1   Azumaryu
Ishiura       J2   Gagamaru
Chiyoshoma    J3   Yutakayama
Wakatakakage  J4   Takanosho
Kyokushuho    J5   Sokokurai
Tsurugisho    J6   Tobizaru
Hidenoumi     J7   Daishomaru
Daiamami      J8   Ikioi
Mitoryu       J9   Kiribayama
Chiyonoumi    J10  Arawashi
Kyokutaisei   J11  Aminishiki
Takanofuji    J12  Ryuko
Ichiyamamoto  J13  Kizakiumi
Akiseyama     J14  Kotonowaka
 

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Makushita-joi

Seiro         Ms1   Irodori
Daiseido      Ms2   Hoshoryu
Tamaki        Ms3   Churanoumi
Chiyootori    Ms4   Kaisho
Fujiazuma     Ms5   Wakamotoharu
Chiyonokuni   Ms6   Naya
Akua          Ms7   Tsukahara
Kototebakari  Ms8   Nishikifuji
Bushozan      Ms9   Chiyosakae
Hakuyozan     Ms10  Nogami
Kizenryu      Ms11  Midorifuji
Hokutokawa    Ms12  Kotodaigo
Asabenkei     Ms13  Toyohibiki
Genki         Ms14  Chiyoarashi
Kaito         Ms15  Tanabe
 

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The remainder:

Makushita

 

Kairyu        Ms16  Daishoryu
Ryusei        Ms17  Jokoryu
Wakayama      Ms18  Honda
Shiba         Ms19  Shonannoumi
Takakento     Ms20  Tsurubayashi
Tomisakae     Ms21  Masunoyama
Sakigake      Ms22  Kyokusoten
Hokaho        Ms23  Kitaharima
Kotokuzan     Ms24  Tochinobori
Masutoo       Ms25  Inoue
Wakatakamoto  Ms26  Terao
Gochozan      Ms27  Tochimaru
Ayanoumi      Ms28  Sagatsukasa
Tochiseiryu   Ms29  Mugendai
Nionoumi      Ms30  Koba
Tokushinho    Ms31  Oki
Hamayutaka    Ms32  Asahisho
Higoarashi    Ms33  Okinofuji
Kotohayato    Ms34  Kotoseigo
Hokutoyo      Ms35  Kotoyusho
Tamakongo     Ms36  Sasakiyama
Kainishiki    Ms37  Akinoyama
Kirinoryu     Ms38  Asakoki
Maikeru       Ms39  Higonojo
Kainoryu      Ms40  Takaryu
Hiradoumi     Ms41  Chiyonoo
Azumasato     Ms42  Omoto
Munakata      Ms43  Hokutotsubasa
Amanoshima    Ms44  Kirinofuji
Kotonoshu     Ms45  Hokutoshu
Itadaki       Ms46  Wakanofuji
Horyuyama     Ms47  Kaiyudai
Shohoryu      Ms48  Shosei
Kagamio       Ms49  Oazuma
Kototsubasa   Ms50  Kurahashi
Tsushida      Ms51  Yuki
Kamito        Ms52  Hatooka
Chiyonokatsu  Ms53  Gokushindo
Fukuyama      Ms54  Kotorikisen
Kotoozutsu    Ms55  Shiraishi
Fujita        Ms56  Tsushimanada
Keitenkai     Ms57  Roga
Onojo         Ms58  Yoshoyama
Terunofuji    Ms59  Aoi
Chiyodaigo    Ms60  Hisanotora


Sandanme

 

Tennozan      Sd1   Karatsuumi
Ichiki        Sd2   Obamaumi
Kitadaichi    Sd3   Kaizen
Asakishin     Sd4   Musashikuni
Tokuda        Sd5   Oginosho
Dewanojo      Sd6   Goryu
Kijuin        Sd7   Mitozakura
Fukamiyama    Sd8   Obayama
Genkaiho      Sd9   Byakko
Nakazono      Sd10  Shuji
Irie          Sd11  Nakashima
Hokutoryu     Sd12  Yutakasho
Kawamoto      Sd13  Izumigawa
Narutaki      Sd14  Hokutoo
Sadanosato    Sd15  Komanokuni
Shoketsu      Sd16  Matsuda
Hokutohomare  Sd17  Kaiseijo
Kotodairyu    Sd18  Oyamatoumi
Komakiryu     Sd19  Taichiyama
Asatenmai     Sd20  Ako
Sadanohikari  Sd21  Daishosei
Kotoryusei    Sd22  Onokura
Yuma          Sd23  Chiyoraizan
Rao           Sd24  Yokoe
Asadaimon     Sd25  Asakoga
Kyokuyuko     Sd26  Daishozen
Sazanami      Sd27  Ryuseio
Musashiumi    Sd28  Dewaazuma
Fujikawa      Sd29  Tochikodai
Tanakayama    Sd30  Ebisumaru
Tosaeizan     Sd31  Kotorikuzan
Kihonoumi     Sd32  Amatsu
Wakakinsho    Sd33  Teraoumi
Aozora        Sd34  Kiyonoumi
Hitachigo     Sd35  Fujitaisei
Mochizuki     Sd36  Wagurayama
Yoshiazuma    Sd37  Ishida
Hibikiryu     Sd38  Kaonishiki
Shoji         Sd39  Genbumaru
Saidaiji      Sd40  Tsugaruumi
Asanojo       Sd41  Saionji
Hikarugenji   Sd42  Tochikamiyama
Aratora       Sd43  Tatsukaze
Tagonofuji    Sd44  Toshoyama
Kotozensho    Sd45  Masuminato
Kaiho         Sd46  Sadanokuni
Hokuyozan     Sd47  Koshinishiki
Daishoki      Sd48  Katsunofuji
Kototora      Sd49  Amakaze
Kotokino      Sd50  Baraki
Miyanofuji    Sd51  Terasawa
Kotomiyakura  Sd52  Oka
Dairaido      Sd53  Fujinotani
Hagane        Sd54  Ryutsukasa
Kiritsubasa   Sd55  Shinyashiki
Kenshin       Sd56  Mitotsukasa
Sakaekaze     Sd57  Kotoito
Daishokaku    Sd58  Haruminato
Hienriki      Sd59  Daishowaka
Takamiryu     Sd60  Fukazawa
Seigo         Sd61  Fujisato
Fukunofuji    Sd62  Hikarifuji
Kasugaryu     Sd63  Tanahashi
Tokiryu       Sd64  Kotakiyama
Tenichi       Sd65  Awajiumi
Asonishiki    Sd66  Kaiyuma
Tsuyukusa     Sd67  Akitoba
Daijo         Sd68  Ginseizan
Tokimaru      Sd69  Daishomune
Kyokuhozan    Sd70  Kasugakuni
Toho          Sd71  Yamaguchi
Ariake        Sd72  Amatsukasa
Kotonoumi     Sd73  Tochimitsuru
Koshinoryu    Sd74  Kotofukujuno
Iko           Sd75  Okinohama
Kototaiki     Sd76  Ura
Kojima        Sd77  Tochihayate
Hao           Sd78  Haruhikari
Kanryu        Sd79  Oisato
Kenyu         Sd80  Fujihisashi
Okinoiwa      Sd81  Asanotosa
Hamadayama    Sd82  Kotokume
Taketsukasa   Sd83  Kayatoiwa
Mihamaumi     Sd84  Kamitani
Wakaichiro    Sd85  Kotootomo
Narumi        Sd86  Mori
Kotokonno     Sd87  Rendaiyama
Denzan        Sd88  Sadanohana
Sumanoumi     Sd89  Shimomura
Azumasho      Sd90  Yamato
Sakabayashi   Sd91  Toyoshimizu
Kotosato      Sd92  Wakayamanaka
Matsuyama     Sd93  Dainichido
Mimurodake    Sd94  Mitsuuchi
Kaishinmaru   Sd95  Kotomyozan
Daitenma      Sd96  Nakao
Surugafuji    Sd97  Anzai
Imafuku       Sd98  Chura
Takatenshu    Sd99  Gorikiyama
Yuriki        Sd100 Wakahizen


Jonidan

 

Hodaka         Jd1   Taranami
Miyakogawa     Jd2   Daikisho
Goshinryu      Jd3   Hidano
Sakurafuji     Jd4   Nakai
Shobushi       Jd5   Takakurayama
Wakanoguchi    Jd6   Akashiryu
Kasugamine     Jd7   Hakuomaru
Asashinjo      Jd8   Maenofuji
Fujinokaze     Jd9   Terumichi
Miryuzan       Jd10  Chiyonosora
Yoshimura      Jd11  Ishizaka
Amamisho       Jd12  Toshonishiki
Daiyusho       Jd13  Mienosato
Homarefuji     Jd14  Sadanogo
Kawabuchi      Jd15  Kiryu
Seito          Jd16  Asahinishiki
Kurokage       Jd17  Yamenosato
Kaishu         Jd18  Nakaishi
Tatsunoumi     Jd19  Tsunekawa
Chiyotaiho     Jd20  Wakasatake
Akatsuki       Jd21  Amane
Honma          Jd22  Fudano
Asaazuma       Jd23  Wakatozakura
Mutsukaze      Jd24  Sekizuka
Wakaseido      Jd25  Kaorufuji
Shiraseyama    Jd26  Tochikasuga
Teraosho       Jd27  Hitenryu
Hokutoyoshi    Jd28  Aomihama
Omote          Jd29  Oshozan
Kakutaiki      Jd30  Harada
Miyakojima     Jd31  Okunisato
Kotonoshima    Jd32  Fujinowaka
Ishiazuma      Jd33  Fukuazuma
Yukiumi        Jd34  Miyabishin
Kaishin        Jd35  Sawayaka
Sakaefuji      Jd36  Tatsuki
Satonofuji     Jd37  Furanshisu
Tochigidake    Jd38  Hokutoiwami
Hokutouryu     Jd39  Umizaru
Suzuki         Jd40  Hasegawa
Kototsukahara  Jd41  Reon
Kenho          Jd42  Kotosusumu
Toukiryu       Jd43  Hokutonami
Daisho         Jd44  Tokisakae
Abezakura      Jd45  Higonoryu
Ota            Jd46  Kitanowaka
Harimanada     Jd47  Chiyooga
Fukuminato     Jd48  Nankairiki
Kirizakura     Jd49  Ito
Dewanosora     Jd50  Chiyohokkai
Tenei          Jd51  Ayakaze
Ryubu          Jd52  Onagaya
Asahijo        Jd53  Watatani
Kiyama         Jd54  Shinzan
Wakakoki       Jd55  Kotomaeda
Hirose         Jd56  Wakaseiun
Shimizu        Jd57  Kirimaru
Mukaida        Jd58  Tochinoshima
Asahanshin     Jd59  Kamada
Takataisho     Jd60  Ryuki
Amamidake      Jd61  Hanakaze
Azumaiwa       Jd62  Tsubakifuji
Kaitoma        Jd63  Shoryudo
Watanabe       Jd64  Tochisato
Fujinoteru     Jd65  Arikawa
Takamasaki     Jd66  Yoshii
Daishojo       Jd67  Hatachijo
Ai             Jd68  Toki
Bushi          Jd69  Sadatsuyoshi
Ishihara       Jd70  Ogitora
Sorakaze       Jd71  Sekizukayama
Toma           Jd72  Sawanofuji
Asanoshima     Jd73  Sakai
Daigonishiki   Jd74  Zendaisho
Wakahiroto     Jd75  Aki
Kokuryunami    Jd76  Chiyooume
Hakuyo         Jd77  Tokio
Daihisho       Jd78  Kotonagahama
Kainowaka      Jd79  Osumifuji
Chiyotaiyo     Jd80  Chiyotaiko
Chida          Jd81  Shioya
Oba            Jd82  Takabayama
Otsuji         Jd83  Yabugasaki
Yatabe         Jd84  Tagomaru
Denuma         Jd85  Kototaiko
Andozakura     Jd86  Nakata
Kiyota         Jd87  Kotomanabe
Isamufuji      Jd88  Ryuga
Banshunada     Jd89  Takemaru
Hokutoizumi    Jd90  Kotourasaki
Kotokogyoku    Jd91  Tanji
Mogaminishiki  Jd92  Roman
Fukui          Jd93  Okanojo
Wakatoriumi    Jd94  Nishikiryu
Motokiyama     Jd95  Tsuyasato
Terunosato     Jd96  Raiga
Hamasu         Jd97  Mimori
Adachi         Jd98  Denpoya
Nishimura      Jd99  Kawamura
Sasaki         Jd100 Tetsubisho
Satsumao       Jd101 Wakamatsunaga
Oatari         Jd102 Yashiroumi
Shachinofuji   Jd103 Goketsuyama
Tabara         Jd104 Toyama
Iwamoto        Jd105 Azumahikari
Daishohama     Jd106 Wakaikki
Oju            Jd107 Fubu
Asahio         Jd108 Kaibusho
Aonoumi        Jd109 Ayaminato
Kotosumida     Jd110 Kotoimagawa
Fukamachi      Jd111 Ueta
Matsuoka       Jd112 Sakura


Jonokuchi

 

Teruju         Jk1   Satozakura
Shunpo         Jk2   Azumanami
Soga           Jk3   Yukiamami
Hokutoyu       Jk4   Fukuda
Hokutosato     Jk5   Asadoji
Hamanoumi      Jk6   Daishiryu
Morita         Jk7   Hironaka
Minami         Jk8   Azumayama
Matsugashima   Jk9   Sawaisamu
Moriurara      Jk10  Shimakaze
Takeazuma      Jk11  Oishi
Kyonosato      Jk12  Hanashi
Sawada         Jk13  Itakozakura
Garyu          Jk14  Wakafujioka
Yanagida       Jk15  Tomiyutaka
Ienoshima      Jk16  Kyokushoriki
Higohikari     Jk17  Houn
Shishimaru     Jk18  Inaba
Kotoegashira   Jk19  Akiyama
Iitsuka        Jk20  Koki
Nishikio       Jk21  Maniwayama
Hashimoto      Jk22  Hamasaki
Numano         Jk23  Asahimaru
Kitajima       Jk24  Yamamotozakura
Yamamoto       Jk25  Nangu
Murata         Jk26  Wakayutaka
Marusho        Jk27  Sakurai
Motobayashi    Jk28  Mishima
Chiyotora      Jk29  Araoyama
Chiyokozan     Jk30  Chiyotensho
Shiryu         Jk31  Iwata
Yamane         Jk32  Asahabataki
Hattorizakura  Jk33  Taiga
Kotoyamato     Jk34  ---

(New shikona in red.)

 

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Eight shikona changes on this banzuke. Kotokamatani's change to Kotonowaka - the shikona of his father and shisho - was announced with his Juryo promotion. There's also a nod to his grandfather, the 53rd Yokozuna Kotozakura, by changing his given name to Masahiro - the first kanji is taken from Kotozakura's given name Masakatsu. (Rather confusingly, Kotokamatani's given name was already Masakatsu but with two different kanji)

Takemasa must be feeling very genki these days, although that's not quite what his new shikona means. This particular Genki is also an imperial era name from the 16th century, the third of four which span the reign of Emperor Ogimachi.

Yoshikasuga's new shikona has three distinct parts - the first kanji is another reading of that from the shisho's old shikona Asahisato, the second kanji means bravery or courage, while the third is another reading of Saiwai, his home ward in Kawasaki, Kanagawa prefecture.

After seven indifferent basho, Miyakomotoharu has returned to his original shikona of Miyakojima, also reversing the given name change made at the same time.

Another previous shikona is claimed back in Futagoyama-beya, where Yabuoka has convinced the shisho that he is again worthy of the shikona Raiga, which was taken away from him last year.

Kise-beya's Higonoso only had two basho with that shikona, now changing to Yashiroumi, an homage (with a slightly different reading) to the Yatsushiro Sea, which his hometown Yatsushiro looks over from Kumamoto prefecture on mainland Kyushu.

Newcomer Maruyama makes his banzuke debut with the shikona Marusho. This was actually visible on the keikoba ranking board in some of the pictures from Naruto-beya's formal opening recently, but I couldn't quite make out the second kanji at the time.

Finally, Terunohana makes a fresh start after returning from a drop off the banzuke, changing his shikona to Taiga. The second kanji there is the same as that used in Futagoyama-beya, most likely ex-Miyabiyama was asked for his blessing for it to be used in this case.


J14w Kotokamatani Masakatsu > Kotonowaka Masahiro (琴ノ若 傑太)
Mk14e Takemasa > Genki (元亀)
Sd26e Yoshikasuga > Kyokuyuko (旭勇幸)
Jd31e Miyakomotoharu Tsuchida > Miyakojima Motoharu (都島 元晴)
Jd96w Yabuoka > Raiga (雷雅)
Jd102w Higonoso > Yashiroumi (八代海)
Jk27e Maruyama > Marusho (丸勝)
Jk33w Terunohana > Taiga (大雅)


One other note courtesy of Nikkan, a shusshin change for Kawabuchi. Previously Ishikawa-ken, Kanazawa-shi > now Osaka-fu, Osaka-shi, Minato-ku (大阪府大阪市港区).

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1 hour ago, Tsuchinoninjin said:

Oh man they did THAT to Asanoyama.

I like it, he can still earn kinboshi!

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1 hour ago, Tsuchinoninjin said:

Oh man they did THAT to Asanoyama.

In March 2000, Takatoriki won the yusho with a 13-2 record from the rank of M14E. For the subsequent basho he was ranked at K2W. In other words, he was promoted to komusubi, even though there were two other rikishi with better claims for the komusubi rank, on the basis that he was the yusho winner from the previous tournament. I think Asanoyama was robbed....

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WTF? That’s just mean. He wasn’t that far down the banzuke.

Unless ... could they have retroactively (and unofficially) erased one win after reviewing the Tochinoshin bout? (Scratchingchin...)

Takagenji enters at M10, the highest makuuchi debut for a Yusho winner* since Aran in November 2008.

*Ichinojo debuted at M10 in 2014 having been runner-up in Juryo. Others, like Terunofuji, also came in at M10 or above between Aran and Ichinojo because they were placed high enough in Juryo. 

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1 hour ago, Jejima said:

In March 2000, Takatoriki won the yusho with a 13-2 record from the rank of M14E. For the subsequent basho he was ranked at K2W. In other words, he was promoted to komusubi, even though there were two other rikishi with better claims for the komusubi rank, on the basis that he was the yusho winner from the previous tournament. I think Asanoyama was robbed....

Not exactly comparable, as Takatoriki was a long time veteran of the upper ranks. He had been ranked in the Sekiwake & Komusubi as well as the upper few Maegashira spots a great number of times prior. Had a large number of special prizes and two jun-yusho's going into his yusho. He was also the only Maegashira to post double digits. Also, they were far more inclined to award extra Sekiwake & Komusubi back then.

Asanoyama has never been raked above M5 (and never a winning record above M8), and is a relative newcomer. He also has the bad luck of competing in the current age where they are very stingy about awarding extra titled slots. Had he done this back then, I fully expect he would have been given the appropriate Komusubi ranking. 

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2 hours ago, Jejima said:

In March 2000, Takatoriki won the yusho with a 13-2 record from the rank of M14E. For the subsequent basho he was ranked at K2W. In other words, he was promoted to komusubi, even though there were two other rikishi with better claims for the komusubi rank, on the basis that he was the yusho winner from the previous tournament. I think Asanoyama was robbed....

Kyokutenho didn't get a promotion to Komusubi either, but at least he was not the best candidate for the spot.  I don't know how to justify this decision of promoting someone else to their Komusubi debut with things that seem to have mattered in the past.  It just goes to show that they sometimes will make decisions on completely different bases than the pure numbers, and such times are not easy to predict.

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I think they put a lot of emphasis on his Day 15 loss. With so many first time winners and shaky Ozeki  I think they are starting to not just looks for winners but closers. They want want sekitori who finish well.

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Yeah it was a surprise to me as well. I suppose they just let Ryuden have it because he fought most of the sanyaku AND went DD with a ginosho. But who the hell knows? They probably just play spin the bottle. ;)

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Ah, it happened. Enho is now the number two man at Miyagino-beya. Hakuho's XO.

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I'm not surprised at all that Asanoyama would get the M1 treatment. A 13-2 would have made the better case. Take it as it is and finish strong in Nagoya, that's all.

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Hmmm, I think most GTB entries missed the Asanoyama rank.   

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4 hours ago, Gurowake said:

I don't know how to justify this decision of promoting someone else to their Komusubi debut with things that seem to have mattered in the past.  It just goes to show that they sometimes will make decisions on completely different bases than the pure numbers, and such times are not easy to predict.

Nishikido is unfit for shimpan duties, but still is on the banzuke committee - and Onomatsu is still the boss - anything goes

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I’ve had a thought. It’s possible (probable?) that Asanoyama will crash and burn in the joi. After all, most debutants do at the best of times, and he’s coming off the back of a yusho celebration period, with all the fatigue that leads to. If he falls far enough, and never recaptures the heights of Natsu, he could become the first rikishi to have no experience of sanyaku before and after winning a yusho. That would be quite the novelty.

I do expect him to make the yaku ranks at some point, but his record to date hasn’t suggested he’ll be a regular there. It’s not within the realms of improbability that he’ll fall back to mid-Maegashira for September and then kick about there for some time to come.

 

On an unrelated note, I just noticed that Daishoho has jumped from M16 to M9 on the strength of his 9-6 last time around. That’s a much higher leap than I anticipated. Good for him!

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The Asanoyama case is surprising, indeed, but what surprises me way more is that Daishoho (M16e, 9-6) and Kotoeko (M15w, 8-7) are ranked ahead of Takagenki (J2e, 13-2)...

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18 minutes ago, Nantonoyama said:

The Asanoyama case is surprising, indeed, but what surprises me way more is that Daishoho (M16e, 9-6) and Kotoeko (M15w, 8-7) are ranked ahead of Takagenki (J2e, 13-2)...

Takagenji has come in pretty high. He’s the first guy to debut as high as M10 since Ichinojo in 2014. Perhaps you mean Daishoho and Kotoeko ought to be lower, but still, Takagenji has not been hard done by.

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30 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

Takagenji has come in pretty high. He’s the first guy to debut as high as M10 since Ichinojo in 2014. Perhaps you mean Daishoho and Kotoeko ought to be lower, but still, Takagenji has not been hard done by.

I am not talking absolute-wise but relative-wise. I agree Takagenki rank is in line with his record and previous occurrences (whatever that means). Kotoeko got a massive overpromotion (which sometimes happens with some luck).

I just wanted to point out that a rikishi only 3 ranks higher highly benefited from the division gap (worthing circa 3 full wins in this case)

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1 hour ago, Nantonoyama said:

I am not talking absolute-wise but relative-wise. I agree Takagenki rank is in line with his record and previous occurrences (whatever that means). Kotoeko got a massive overpromotion (which sometimes happens with some luck).

I just wanted to point out that a rikishi only 3 ranks higher highly benefited from the division gap (worthing circa 3 full wins in this case)

My point is that actually Takagenji has (arguably) been over-promoted too. Shimanoumi debuted at M12 after a yusho with the same record (13-2) at one rank higher (J1). Last year Takanosho came in at M14 after getting 13-2 jun-yusho at J4. Takagenji has gotten plenty of banzuke luck to come in at M10. Had he been put at M12 or M13, it wouldn’t have been unfair and I’d have expected to see Daishoho above him in that event. After all, Daishoho fought and beat a guy as high as M10; Takagenji fought and lost to a J10. That’s the nature of the divisional gap: at the bottom of Makuuchi you mostly fight guys better than you, while at the top of Juryo you mostly fight guys weaker than you. 

Kotoeko has been very fortunate, I agree, but Daishoho should be above Takagenji in my opinion, though perhaps with both a bit lower down the banzuke.

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I’m not surprised by Asanoyama getting put at M1. Last tournament was not the most hotly contested basho I’ve seen, and the rikishi above him were almost all off their game. Asa won the most bouts, but didn’t show dominating power in most of them. That’s all stuff he could control, more or less. But I do suppose it is possible he is paying for that’s bad call against Tochinoshin, which is not his fault. I doubt that would be a deciding factor, but the committee does really seem to give a lot of weight to how the last few days of a tournament play out.

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Come to think of it, the committee passed on promoting Takakeisho to Ozeki who had to wait one more basho.   In that regard, they have made a consistent decision on Asanaoyama, making him wait for a sanyuku debut.   The best thing for Asanoyama is to go KK in Nagoya to prove the committee wrong.   I am betting on him to go MK with 7-8 record.   Of course, my predictions have a 70% chance of going the opposite way.   ;-)   In fact, it was my prediction that propelled Aaansoyama to take the last yusho.  

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