Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted May 27, 2019 A rikishi injured on Day 8 and unable to win at straight-up sumo resorts to henka after several losses in a row and a questionable call (and with a prestige rank on the line)? Colour me shocked! Shocked I say!! 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALAKTORN 346 Posted May 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Otokonoyama said: A rikishi injured on Day 8 and unable to win at straight-up sumo resorts to henka after several losses in a row and a questionable call (and with a prestige rank on the line)? Colour me shocked! Shocked I say!! I never said I was shocked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted May 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, ALAKTORN said: I never said I was shocked. Yes, right. Disgusted. Duly noted. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 975 Posted May 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Kotomiyama said: A great basho for the beginning of a new imperial era. The future looks nice, once the old guard has retired. Meisei, Mitakeumi, Asanoyama, Takakeisho... are going to give us great moments of sumo. If you think this was a good basho, it can only get better. As for me, this basho was sub-par and left a foul taste in my mouth. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted May 27, 2019 39 minutes ago, Otokonoyama said: A rikishi injured on Day 8 and unable to win at straight-up sumo resorts to henka after several losses in a row and a questionable call (and with a prestige rank on the line)? Colour me shocked! Shocked I say!! It wasn’t even an all-in henka. He took contact on the arm and Kakuryu effectively dived into a headlock before Tochinoshin had completely sidestepped. Not quite a HNH but not quite a full on henka either. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted May 27, 2019 Chaos is a ladder. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,913 Posted May 27, 2019 4 hours ago, ALAKTORN said: Are you serious? Tochinoshin’s ruined the yūshō race. Yes, i am serious. No, Kakuryu ruined the yusho race by losing to M3 Tamawashi and M5 Myogiryu prior to that. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dapeng 233 Posted May 27, 2019 This basho is not a good one but will be remembered for a long time because it's the first one viewed by the president of USA. It's not a good basho because: 1, the much expected and hyped new ozeki turned out to mess up the schedule by re-entering and re-kyujo giving two default wins. 2, mediocre performance by ozekis. 3, bad referee decision on critical bout. 4, "tiger head but snake tail" performances of Tochi and Kaku ruined the yusho race. 5, Day-14 yusho is supposed to be a strong yusho but actually a weak one at only 12 wins. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,261 Posted May 27, 2019 I would say Ichinojo not getting scheduled against Hakuho last basho was a much bigger sin than any of those 5 but then again I enjoyed both bashos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 811 Posted May 27, 2019 16 hours ago, Amamaniac said: Actually, I attribute it more to the fact that all six sekitori were ranked M9 and below. That way they could be conveniently lumped together. And still, I don't know if that convenient pairing of all 7-7 wrestlers has happened before. Channel 4 when they covered sumo in the 1980s used to say “by tradition all those with scores of 7-7 are matched against each other in playoffs.” You just assumed at the time that they knew what they were talking about. Now I know better. Nice idea though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,873 Posted May 27, 2019 For the most part, Day 15 matches are "Let's get this over with and get outta here" affairs with only minor effects on the next banzuke. The 7-7 matches add some excitement, but the delayed scheduling to get as many as possible is a bit of a pain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sekitori 492 Posted May 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Dapeng said: This basho is not a good one but will be remembered for a long time because it's the first one viewed by the president of USA. It's not a good basho because: 1, the much expected and hyped new ozeki turned out to mess up the schedule by re-entering and re-kyujo giving two default wins. 2, mediocre performance by ozekis. 3, bad referee decision on critical bout. 4, "tiger head but snake tail" performances of Tochi and Kaku ruined the yusho race. 5, Day-14 yusho is supposed to be a strong yusho but actually a weak one at only 12 wins. 6. Hakuho wasn't present. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nukri-nohana 17 Posted May 27, 2019 plz tell me what they said about tochi asanoyama match? google translate is useless http://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/16525659/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tiger Tanaka 222 Posted May 27, 2019 Congrats to Asanoyama!!! I hope he can show continued success in the sanyaku ranks in Nagoya I hope we can get one more run of dominance from Hakuho before the 2020 olympics. It's been three years since he's completed three consecutive basho. While the parity is fun and always exciting (whether a good clean basho or messy like this past tourney), there is no dominant force like Hakuho on the horizon and so I wouldn't mind seeing one last run of utter dominance from the boss. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainoyama 1,157 Posted May 27, 2019 Asanoyama sit down with his oyakata for an light hearted interview today (May 27th). Takasago oyakata ( Former Ozeki Asashio ) stole the show and joked around quite a bit launching sneak attacks on his deshi . The attack started midway through the interview after Asonayama was asked where he'd put the 317 cm high 228cm large yusho winner portrait " I haven't thought about it at all" answered Asanoyama "Hey you, You won kensho this tournament right ? Let's install air-conditioning at the heya ! Everyone is hot you know ! And in winter everyone is cold. It's for everyone's sake. You won money this time so let's do this with your money ok ? Me ? I didn't earn anything so... " started the oyakata, causing Asanoyama and the many journalists gathered for the occasion to burst into laugher. The temperature was over 30 again today and everyone in the room was sweating abondantly. Asanoyama's absorbed the blow and immediately riposted showing he can give back outside of the dohyo as well " Can't you just get Nikkan Sport (where Takasago works as a commentator) to buy it for you ?" The Oyakata's attack didn't stop there though, when Asanoyama was asked about the possibility of winning back to back yusho, Takasago didn't let his deshi speak and answered the question himself "Hahahahaha you there, stop asking stupid questions ! you split my sides you idiot ! He was M8 right ? it's not like if he was komusubi or sekiwake. And he only won 7 last basho." There was no malice though and the oyakata was just giving his deshi some parternal tough love. Asanoyama is the first yusho winner with no sanyaku experience in 58 years and he'll face Jo-i rikishi, sanyaku, Ozeki and Yokuzuna every day for the first time next basho. "At these high ranks getting 8 wins is tough. If he manages to win 8, I'll praise him" said the oyakata. "I want to flourish at the top and become a figurehead of sumo" said Asanoyama "Except for the fortune and merit" quickly attacked the oyakata continuing his tough love lesson until the end. https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/201905270000776.html 3 2 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 975 Posted May 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Dapeng said: This basho is not a good one but will be remembered for a long time because it's the first one viewed by the president of USA. It's not a good basho because: 1, the much expected and hyped new ozeki turned out to mess up the schedule by re-entering and re-kyujo giving two default wins. 2, mediocre performance by ozekis. 3, bad referee decision on critical bout. 4, "tiger head but snake tail" performances of Tochi and Kaku ruined the yusho race. 5, Day-14 yusho is supposed to be a strong yusho but actually a weak one at only 12 wins. I intentionally skipped watching the last two days. BTW, no one talks about it b/c it happened to Daieisho. He was robbed of a win by bad judging and finished the basho with 7-8. It cost him a chance to be a sanyuku for the 1st time. He's a young kid and hopefully, he will come back stronger in the next basho. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jabbamaru 166 Posted May 27, 2019 I have nothing against a good old totally unexpected henka. Even in sanyaku. Even with the yusho on the line. what bothers me are rikishis like Chiyoshouma or Ishiura...Im not against henka but against henka abuse... But let's be honest...If it was Kise instead of Kak...I would love to see the public's reaction... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 1,722 Posted May 27, 2019 15 hours ago, robnplunder said: As for me, this basho was sub-par and left a foul taste in my mouth. 46 minutes ago, robnplunder said: I intentionally skipped watching the last two days. Are you sure you're a fan of ozumo? Self-flagellation might be more up your street. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suwihuto 125 Posted May 27, 2019 I'm enjoying the unpredictability, given most of what I've seen since my return to watching the sport is Hakuko destroying everyone. It's almost certain I think that there will be a period of uncertainty until the old boys are finished and a youngster or two can establish themselves. Looking back at old records, it wouldn't be that big a surprise to me at all for there to be no Dai-Yok for another few years - after all, such rikishi only appear every decade or two don't they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 975 Posted May 27, 2019 3 hours ago, RabidJohn said: Are you sure you're a fan of ozumo? Self-flagellation might be more up your street. It was either that or watch "you-know-who" to steal the spotlight on 15th day ... . I promise to watch all 15 days of the next basho. Having retired, I can stay up as early (2 am) as I want and whenever I want. Getting old sucks but it has its advantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 1,722 Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, robnplunder said: It was either that or watch "you-know-who" to steal the spotlight on 15th day ... . What, is Donarudo Toranpu on a par with Volde... er... He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named now? Sure, the TV cameras didn't ignore him, but I can assure you that the focus of the show was still the sumo. What purpose did your boycott serve, other than depriving yourself of the pleasure of watching sumo? Edited May 28, 2019 by RabidJohn 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 975 Posted May 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, RabidJohn said: What, is Donarudo Toranpu on a par with Volde... er... He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named now? Sure, the TV cameras didn't ignore him, but I can assure you that the focus of the show was still the sumo. What purpose did your boycott serve, other than depriving yourself of the pleasure of watching sumo? I didn't boycott. I just had too many other things to watch around that time, like KLPGA golf & Baduk (Go game in Japanese). Asanoyama vs Tochi disaster gave me an excuse to watch my other loves. And the yusho race was over on day 14 .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stein 30 Posted May 28, 2019 I wish i could find the topic, like a year ago. when i said that Asanoyama would make Ozeki or Yokozuna one day. That is not quite happened yet, of course, but who knows, we are much much closer now. A great Basho nonetheless, exciting sumo, nice stories to be told, etc. Kakuryu, however, seems to have lost quite a bit of fire... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,913 Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Stein said: I wish i could find the topic, like a year ago. when i said that Asanoyama would make Ozeki or Yokozuna one day. That is not quite happened yet, of course, but who knows, we are much much closer now. A great Basho nonetheless, exciting sumo, nice stories to be told, etc. Kakuryu, however, seems to have lost quite a bit of fire... Click on your profile pic in the upper right corner. Your profile opens. A little below is grey button "See my activity". There you can browse all your comments. With only 120 posts it should be easy to find. Quite nice feature when you want to look up what stupid things you said in the past. At least for me ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,078 Posted May 28, 2019 22 hours ago, nukri-nohana said: plz tell me what they said about tochi asanoyama match? google translate is useless http://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/16525659/ From what I can glean, on May 27, the YDC gave their verdict on the May tournament saying that the explanations coming from the shimpancho (head judges, esp. Onomatsu) were muddled and insufficient, which caused unnecessary confusion. Significantly, the incidents in question involved Asanoyama's bouts on Day 11 and Day 13. Apparently, they had very little to say about Yokozuna Kakuryu, which I had always assumed was their primary focus/raison d'être. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites