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A winner of yusho, who did not face youkozuna, faced only two guys from sanyaku so far and and one more comes  today. In one case he did not win but was given  victory by shimpans(zee)s just for nothing. Well , my congrats to him, since he is a winner, but ...

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5 minutes ago, Akumazeki said:

A winner of yusho, who did not face youkozuna, faced only two guys from sanyaku so far and and one more comes  today. In one case he did not win but was given  victory by shimpans(zee)s just for nothing. Well , my congrats to him, since he is a winner, but ...

The yusho is won not necessarily by the strongest rikishi of the time, but by the guy who is better than his peers. In other words, Asanoyama won his schedule. He performed better against his peers than the other guys did against their peers. Sumo has always had everyone fighting different schedules – it’s impossible to have complete fairness when there are just 15 days and 41 potential opponents for each rikishi to face. 

In winning his schedule, Asanoyama will earn the ‘privilege’ of fighting a tougher schedule next time around. It’s better to think of makuuchi not as one division but three (with some overlap). Guys in the bottom third are trying to get to the middle third, and guys in the middle are trying to get to the top. To do that, they have to prove themselves too good for their rank by beating the others around them on the banzuke.

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8 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

The yusho is won not necessarily by the strongest rikishi of the time, but by the guy who is better than his peers. In other words, Asanoyama won his schedule. He performed better against his peers than the other guys did against their peers. Sumo has always had everyone fighting different schedules – it’s impossible to have complete fairness when there are just 15 days and 41 potential opponents for each rikishi to face. 

I agree and I know, it is just my regret, nothing more :(

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It's a bit sad they won't bend the rules to give Enho the fighting spirit prize. He showed more fighting spirit than most newbies to makuuchi.

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4 minutes ago, Otokonoyama said:

Kanto sho for Shimanoumi!

An impressive second week ‘comeback’ from him after a shaky start.

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Lost again. Tochiozan got injured someplace. Tough luck cause he was having a great basho. 

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Fans of the former Kitazakura will recognize guest oyakata Shikihide on the Abema broadcast.

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The Eagle has landed, apparently. He'll get to see Asanoyama's match after all.

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Of the 5 Makuuchi rikishi who were at their career best rank, only the front runner Enho went MK, partially due to his late injury.  But he showed he belonged in Makuuchi.  It will be fun to see him again in Mukuuchi in July.

Shimonoumi continued his amazing run of 2 juryo yusho + a double digit win in his Makuuchi debut.  

Meisei will make a joi debut with his double digit win from M7 rank.  

Tomokaze kept his amazing KK streak by winning his last 3 matches albeit against struggling opponents.  I pegged him to go MK and that probably helped him to gambarize.

Diashoho will move up a few spots.   He seems to be content on making small steps.  Steady as he goes.  Is he the next Mongolian great?  Probably not.

To complete the list, Takakeisho went kyujo and is kadoban.

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2 minutes ago, Akumazeki said:

Kakuryu saved this  basho from having nine jun yusho :-D

Ha. I was literally just thinking that myself. I wonder what the record number is.

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Gold macaroon! 

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Trying to stay neutral when it comes to President Trump, I have to admit that he is if anything a man of the people.  He smiled and waved to the fans in the stadium, he clapped to Asanoyama before stepping down from the dohyo, and he shook hands with several Japanese fans as he walked out.  And the United States Presidents' Cup was substantial in size, the main decoration being an eagle atop the lid.  The Americans certainly did not lose face on this occasion.  

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1 hour ago, Eikokurai said:

Ha. I was literally just thinking that myself. I wonder what the record number is.

Record number was 6, twice , 1934 - yusho 9 wins, 6 rikishi with 8 wins and 1972 - yusho 11 wins and 6 rikishi with 10 wins

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&rowcount=5&group_by=basho&having=6&form1_jy=on&form1_m=on

 

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36 minutes ago, Akumazeki said:

Record number was 6, twice , 1934 - yusho 9 wins, 6 rikishi with 8 wins and 1972 - yusho 11 wins and 6 rikishi with 10 wins

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&rowcount=5&group_by=basho&having=6&form1_jy=on&form1_m=on

Perhaps it is significant to point out that the 1934 case represented a tournament with 11 days (bouts) rather than 15 days of competition.  

As for the 1972 New Year Tournament, it was won by then hiramaku (M5w) Tochiazuma with an unusually low 11-6 record.

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