shimodahito 304 Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) Good day all, As Kisenosato rides off into the sunset, we tip a hat and raise a glass to him and all the TORCH 2019 picks. Thanks to everyone who entered. We are up to 94 players. 38 returnee updates, 42 carry-overs, and a big welcome to 14 new players. ...The rikishi picks for TORCHBEARER 2019: Ura had the most picks. Abi (Ayagawa) Akinohana (Shatsume) Akiseyama (Nantonoyama) Akua (Munjeezy) Aminishiki (Jejima & rhyen) Asahiryu (Taiga) Asahisho (Fatakiyama) Azumaryu (Ganzohnesushi & itchyknee) Chiyonoo (Cydrome) Chiyonoumi (Tenshinhan) Daiamami (Jesinofuji) Daigonishiki (wildcard) Enho (kedevash & Oshirokita & Takanorappa) Fujiazuma (ryafuji) Gagamaru (Aled-ap-Tomos & Daughter of Sukubidubidu) Gokushindo (Gurowake) Hamayutaka (Getayukata) Hattorizakura (Mutsu’ohideki) Hokutoryu (teo_heel) Hoshoryu (Akōgyokuseki & Konrad) Irodori (Domichi) Jokoryu (charliki/Gibuten) Kaisho (Kitanoedo) Kirinofuji (Kintaro) Kotokamatani (Naganoyama) Kototebakari>Kotoshoho (Andonishiki) Kotourasaki (Saruyama) Masunoyama (chishafuwaku) Midorifuji (MumboJumbo) Mitozakura (Nekonishiki) Mitsuuchi>Tosamidori (Profomisakari) Musashikuni (Bumpkin & yorikiried by fate) Nakazono (ronnie) Narutaki (Jason & Shokikogi) Naya (Suwihuto) Nishikifuji (Itachi & shimodahito & Terarno) Ohata (Tsukiko) Oisato (Tsubame) Onosho (Hoshihitomi) Roga (Chisaiyama & Hakuhonofan & kuroimori & Pitinosato & Wamahada) Ryuden (Kofuji-ICAN & Umigame) Ryuko (Rocks/Gansekiiwa) Sadanohikari (Screeching Owl) The now retired Satoyama (Yubinhaad) Shiba (Toratorii) Shoji (Haidouzo & Kintamayama) Shonannoumi (Senkoho & Yukiarashi) Sokokurai (Fujisan) Soranoumi (Johnofuji) Taichiyama (Sagi) Takakeisho (Derek) Takanofuji (Holleshoryu & Pandaazuma) Terao (Ajisen) Terutsuyoshi (Tsuchinoninjin) Tochihiryu (Kiritsubaki) Tochiseiryu (hitotsubushi) Tokuda (Wakatake) Tokushoryu (Shio-kago) Tomokaze (Chankomafuji & Mmikasazuma) Tsukahara (furanohana) Tsurugisho (Sakura & Shitamachi & Sukubidubidu) Ura (Achiyama & kotoshikona & Obana & orandashoho & Unkonoyama & Yoohoo) Wakaichiro (inhashi & Kosimazaki(PhorCillic)) Wakamotoharu (Ryoshishokunin) Wakatakakage (Taikobana & Uinseann) Yoshoyama (McBugger) …The rank picks for TORCHBEARER 2019: Juryo 11 East & Juryo 12 West had the most picks. Y1E (Mutsu’ohideki) J1E (rhyen) J2E (Aled ap Tomas) J2W (Nekonishiki) J3E (Suwihuto) J3W (chishafuwaku & inhashi) J4E (Umigame & Kosimazaki(PhorCillic)) J5E (Chankomafuji & Jesinofuji) J6E (Saruyama) J6W (Chisaiyama & Domichi & Shitamachi & Sukubidubidu) J7E (Yoohoo) J7W (Cydrome) J8E (Akōgyokuseki & Kitanoedo & Naganoyama & Sakura & Takanorappa) J8W (itchyknee & Kintamayama) J9E (Fatakiyama) J9W (Senkoho) J10E (Fujisan & Haidouzo & Profomisakari) J10W (hitotsubushi & Shio-kago) J11E (furanohana & Jason & kotoshikona & orandashoho & Munjeezy & yorikiried by fate) J11W (Ryoshishokunin & Terarno & Unkonoyama) J12E (Rocks/Gansekiiwa & Shokikogi) J12W (Daughter of Sukubidubidu & Ganzohnesushi & Holleshoryu & Jejima & McBugger & Mmikasazuma) J13E (Achiyama & Gurowake & charliki/Gibuten) J13W (Tsuchinoninjin) J14E (Yukiarashi) J14W (Kintaro) Ms2E (Pitinosato) Ms2W (Obana) Ms3W (Oshirokita & ronnie) Ms4E (Getayukata) Ms4W (ryafuji) Ms6E (kedevash) Ms7E (Ayagawa & Tenshinhan) Ms7W (Konrad & Taiga) Ms8E (Itachi & Uinseann) Ms9W (Hoshihitomi) Ms10E (Bumpkin) Ms10W (Nantonoyama & Shatsume) Ms11W (Toratorii) Ms14E (kuroimori) Ms16E (Kiritsubaki) Ms19E (Wamahada) Ms20W (Screeching Owl & Yubinhaad) Ms21E (Tsubame) Ms23E (shimodahito) Ms23W (Pandaazuma) Ms26E (Tsukiko) Ms28E (Derek & Taikoubana) Ms29W (MumboJumbo) Ms36E (Ajisen) Ms38E (Hakuhonofan) ms42W (Andonishiki) Ms47W (Wakatake) Ms53W (Johnofuji) Sd8W (Kofuji-ICAN) Sd30W (Sagi) Sd48E (teo_heel) Jk27W (wildcard) If there are any corrections/misspellings or I forgot someone, let me know. Good Luck. Thank you! -shimodahito Edited October 29, 2019 by shimodahito 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted January 16, 2019 From the bottom of the banzuke, the TORCH starts here: Start-of-2019 Rank: Jonokuchi 27 West Start of 2019 Rikishi: Daigonishiki And the first TORCH MATCH of 2019 was on Day 3:RIKISHI DAIGONISHIKIKI vs HAMASURANK JONOKUCHI 27 WEST vs JONOKUCHI 25 WEST Player(s) up for points:the Wildcard's (ceremonial default) rank/rikishi pick is JONOKUCHI 27 WEST DAIGONISHIKI standings: 94 players with zero points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itchyknee 60 Posted January 27, 2019 So unless I missed something the torch is with jk16w Matsuyama, who is predicted to be around jd51 next basho: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) Good day all, Itchyknee, with a clever graphic presentation, is correct on the TORCH recap of the Hatsu Basho. Mutsu'ohideki's pick Hattorizakura; and Roga, a popular rikishi pick by many players, missed the TORCH. Roga pickers will certainly get another crack at it in Haru. Start-of-Hatsu Rikishi: DAIGONISHIKI Start-of-Hatsu Rank: JONOKUCHI 27 WESTDAY 3: Jonokuchi 27 West Daigonishiki (0-0) passes the TORCH to Jonokuchi 25 West Hamasu (0-1)DAY 5: Jonokuchi 25 West Hamasu (1-1) passes the TORCH to Jonokuchi 24 West Daitenma (1-1)DAY 8: Jonokuchi 24 West Daitenma (2-1) passes the TORCH to Jonokuchi 25 East Narumi (2-1)DAY 10: Jonokuchi 25 East Narumi (3-1) passes the TORCH to Jonokuchi 16 West Matsuyama (3-1)DAY 12: Jonokuchi 16 West Matsuyama (4-1) defeats Jonokuchi 13 West Wakafujioka (3-2)DAY 13: Jonokuchi 16 West Matsuyama (5-1) defeats Jonokuchi 8 West Masutenryu (5-1) End-of-Hatsu Rikishi: MATSUYAMA End-of-Hatsu: Rank: JONOKUCHI 16 WEST Edited February 14, 2019 by shimodahito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 532 Posted February 11, 2019 So let me see If I get this(Understand) I pick a rikishi and he is my day one pick but if he loses whoever beat him becomes my day 2 pick? Am I right so far? If so,will you be posting how I/we did with a day by day record? No disrespect Shimodahito but this is complicated........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shio-kago 180 Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Fujisan said: So let me see If I get this(Understand) I pick a rikishi and he is my day one pick but if he loses whoever beat him becomes my day 2 pick? Am I right so far? If so,will you be posting how I/we did with a day by day record? No disrespect Shimodahito but this is complicated........ If I may explain(I apologize if I'm speaking out of turn.)-- It only seems complicated because you haven't recognized that the only really important thing is where The Torch ends up at the end of the year. The Torch is gradually going to work it's way up the ranks over the course of the next few tournaments and it's going to end the year in the hands of one guy. That's all your guessing: One wrestler, one rank. Get either thing right=big points. Get both right=Jackpot Even if you get neither thing right, you can still score some points if the wrestler you guess ever holds The Torch, plus some points for every match he wins while holding it. But playing the game only requires you to make two choices: Who will end the year holding The Torch, and what will be the rank of the rikishi holding The Torch at the end, whoever that might be. I hope this helps to clarify things for you, Fujisan. Edited February 11, 2019 by Shio-kago 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 532 Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) """"If I may explain(I apologize if I'm speaking out of turn.)-- It only seems complicated because you haven't recognized that the only really important thing is where The Torch ends up at the end of the year"""" Yes I had missed that...... So the torch starts from the bottom of the banzuke and we are trying to forecast who or where the torch will finish by the end of the year..... I think I got it now.......( My heads stopped hurting anyway ) Edited February 11, 2019 by Fujisan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) Shio-kago san.... you rock. I couldn't have said it better myself. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With the new banzuke released, here is the Haru TORCH position. start-of-haru rikishi: MATSUYAMA start-of-haru-rank: JONIDAN 41 WEST Edited March 6, 2019 by shimodahito 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Munjeezy 60 Posted March 22, 2019 Am I correct in saying the torch is with terunofuji of all people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) Munjeezy is correct. Here is the TORCH journey recap for Haru: DAY 2: Jonidan 41 West Matsuyama (0-0) defeats Jonidan 42 East Kakutaiki (0-0)DAY 3: Jonidan 41 West Matsuyama (1-0) defeats Jonidan 43 East Harimandada (1-0)DAY 5: Jonidan 41 West Matsuyama (2-0) passes the TORCH to Jonidan 40 West Teraosho (2-0)DAY 7: Jonidan 40 West Teraosho (3-0) passes the TORCH to Jonidan 48 West Terunofuji (3-0)DAY 9: Jonidan 48 West Terunofuji (4-0) defeats Jonidan 61 West Daiyusho (4-0)DAY 11: Jonidan 48 West Terunofuji (5-0) defeats Jonidan 82 East Shimomura (5-0)DAY 13: Jonidan 48 West Terunofuji (6-0) defeats Jonidan 84 West Sadatsuyoshi (6-0) Which brings us to a kettei-san TORCH MATCH on senshuraku!:RIKISHI TERUNOFUJI vs ROGARANK JONIDAN 48 WEST vs JONIDAN 15 WEST Player(s) up for points:Chisaiyma‘s rikishi pick is ROGAHakuhonofan’s rikishi pick is ROGAkuroimori’s rikishi pick is ROGAPitinosato’s rikishi pick is ROGAWamahada’s rikishi pick is ROGA a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match standings: 94 players with zero points Edited May 12, 2019 by shimodahito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) Good day all, The Roga Club snuck in for the kettei-san match and earned the first TORCHBEARER 2019 points. Start-of-Natsu Rikishi: ROGA Start-of-Natsu Rank: SANDANME 22 EAST standings: 3 points -- Chisaiyama 3 points -- Hakuhonofan 3 points -- kuroimori 3 points -- Pitininosato 3 points -- Wamahada Edited May 12, 2019 by shimodahito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) How far will the ROGA wagon carry the TORCH? Tha Natsu TORCH MATCH’s start on Day 2:RIKISHI ROGA vs HOKUTOTSUBASARANK SANDANME 22 EAST vs SANDANME 22 WEST Player(s) up for points:Chisaiyma‘s rikishi pick is ROGAHakuhonofan’s rikishi pick is ROGAkuroimori’s rikishi pick is ROGAPitinosato’s rikishi pick is ROGAWamahada’s rikishi pick is ROGA a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match standings: 3 points -- Chisaiyama 3 points -- Hakuhonofan 3 points -- kuroimori 3 points -- Pitininosato 3 points -- Wamahada Edited May 27, 2019 by shimodahito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted May 13, 2019 Roga has gone rogue in rogards to my torchbearer strategy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) Newcomer, Sagi, joins the race. Natsu TORCH MATCH Day 9:RIKISHI HOKUTOTSUBASA vs ASAKISHINRANK SANDANME 22 WEST vs SANDANME 30 WEST Player(s) up for points:Sagi’s rank pick is SANDANME 30 WEST a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match standings: 4 points – Chisaiyama 4 points – Hakuhonofan 4 points – kuroimori 4 points – Pitininosato 4 points – Wamahada Edited May 27, 2019 by shimodahito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted July 3, 2019 A NATSU BASHO recap: Start-of-Natsu Rikishi: ROGA Start-of-Natsu Rank: SANDANME 22 EASTDAY 2: Sandanme 22 East Roga (0-0) passes the TORCH to Sandanme 22 West Hokutotsubasa (0-0) [1 point Chisaiyama & Hakuhofan & kuoimori & Pitininosato & Wamahada]DAY 3: Sandanme 22 West Hokutotsubasa (1-0) defeats Sandanme 23 West Kaonishiki (1-0)DAY 5: Sandanme 22 West Hokutotsubasa (2-0) defeats Sandanme 21 East Wagurayama (2-0)DAY 7: Sandanme 22 West Hokutotsubasa (3-0) defeats Sandanme 24 East Aoi (3-0)DAY 9: Sandanme 22 West Hokutotsubasa (4-0) defeats Sandanme 30 West Asakishin (4-0) [1 point Sagi]DAY 11: Sandanme 22 West Hokutotsubasa (5-0) defeats Sandanme 55 West Daishozen (5-0)DAY 13: Sandanme 22 West Hokutotsubasa (6-0) passes the TORCH to Sandanme 100 Tsukedashi Shiraishi (6-0)KEITTEI-SAN: Sandanme 100 Tsukedashi Shiraishi (7-0) defeats Sandanme 12 West Hokutokawa (7-0) End-of-Natsu Rikishi: SHIRAISHI End-of-Natsu Rank: SANDANME 100 TSUKEDASHI standings: 4 points – Chisaiyama 4 points – Hakuhofan 4 points – kuroimori 4 points – Pitininosato 4 points – Wamahada 1 point – Sagi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted July 7, 2019 Good day all, TORCH position -- Start-of-Nagoya Rikishi: SHIRAISHI Start-of-Nagoya Rank: MAKUSHITA 55 WEST Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) Good day all, Here's a recap of the TORCH during Nagoya:DAY 2: Makushita 55 West Shiraishi (0-0) defeats Makushita 54 West Kotorikesen (0-0) DAY 4: Makushita 55 West Shiraishi (1-0) defeats Makushita 57 East Keitenkai (1-0) DAY 5: Makushita 55 West Shiraishi (2-0) defeats Makushita 58 East Onojo (2-0) DAY 7: Makushita 55 West Shiraishi (3-0) passes the TORCH to Makushita 52 West Hatooka (3-0) DAY 9: Makushita 52 West Hatooka (4-0) defeats Sandanme 8 East Fukamiyama (4-0) DAY 11 Makushita 52 West Hatooka (5-0) passes the TORCH to Makushita 41 West Chiyonoo (5-0) And today two players get the first opportunity for points during this basho in the TORCH match on Day 13: RIKISHI CHIYONOO vs TSURUBAYASHIRANK MAKUSHITA 41 WEST vs MAKUSHITA 20 WEST Player(s) up for points:Screeching Owl’s rank pick is MAKUSHITA 20 WESTYubinaad‘s rank pick is MAKUSHITA 20 WESTCydrome's rikishi pick is CHIYONOO a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match standings: 4 points – Chisaiyama 4 points – Hakuhofan 4 points – kuroimori 4 points – Pitininosato 4 points – Wamahada 1 point – Sagi Edited September 8, 2019 by shimodahito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Good day all, The TORCH is flirting with Juryo and could get there during the basho. TORCH position -- End-of-Nagoya Rikishi: CHIYONOO End-of-Nagoya Rank: MAKUSHITA 41 WEST Start-of-Aki Rikishi: CHIYONOO Start-of-Aki Rank: MAKUSHITA 2 WEST standings: 4 points – Chisaiyama 4 points – Hakuhofan 4 points – kuroimori 4 points – Pitininosato 4 points – Wamahada 3 points -- Cydrome 1 point – Sagi 1 point – Screeching Owl 1 point – Yubinhaad Edited September 8, 2019 by shimodahito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,807 Posted September 7, 2019 Wow, totally blew through makushita thanks to Chiyonoo. I got Ryuko who is right the with him so maybe I can get some points this basho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) Good day all, I made a correction as I missed that Cydrome's rikishi pick is Chiyonoo. There are a lot of points and players in the first TORCH action of Aki basho. Aki TORCH MATCH Day 2:RIKISHI CHIYONOO vs NISHIKIFUJIRANK MAKUSHITA 2 WEST vs MAKUSHITA 3 EAST Player(s) up for points:Obana’s rank pick is MAKUSHITA 2 WESTCydrome’s rikishi pick is CHIYONOOItachi’s rikishi pick is NISHIKIFUJIshimodahito’s pick is NISHIKIFUJITerarno’s pick is NISHIKIFUJI a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match standings: 4 points -- Chisaiyama 4 points -- Hakuhofan 4 points -- kuroimori 4 points -- Pitinosato 4 points -- Wamahada 3 points -- Cydrome 1 point -- Sagi 1 point -- Screeching Owl 1 point -- Yubinhaad Edited September 11, 2019 by shimodahito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) We have a leader. Aki TORCH MATCH Day 3:RIKISHI CHIYONOO vs KOTOTEBAKARIRANK MAKUSHITA 2 WEST vs MAKUSHITA 4 WEST Player(s) up for points:Obana's rank pick is MAKUSHITA 2 WESTCydrome’s rikishi pick is CHIYONOOAndonishiki’s rikishi pick is KOTOTEBAKARI a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match standings: 6 points – Cydrome 4 points – Chisaiyama 4 points – Hakuhofan 4 points – kuroimori 4 points – Pitinosato 4 points – Wamahada 3 points – Obana 1 point – Itachi 1 point – Sagi 1 point – Screeching Owl 1 point – shimodahito 1 point – Terarno 1 point – Yubinhaad Edited September 11, 2019 by shimodahito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) We have a clear leader. Aki TORCH MATCH Day 5:RIKISHI CHIYONOO vs WAKAMOTOHARURANK MAKUSHITA 2 WEST vs MAKUSHITA 1 EAST Player(s) up for points:Obana’s rank pick is MAKUSHITA 2 WESTCydrome’s rikishi pick is CHIYONOORyoshishokunin’s rikishi pick is WAKAMOTOHARU a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match standings: 9 points – Cydrome 6 points – Obana 4 points – Chisaiyama 4 points – Hakuhofan 4 points – kuroimori 4 points – Pitinosato 4 points – Wamahada 1 point – Andonishiki 1 point – Itachi 1 point – Sagi 1 point – Screeching Owl 1 point – shimodahito 1 point – Terarno 1 point – Yubinhaad Edited September 12, 2019 by shimodahito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted September 14, 2019 The Cydrome/Obana streak ends with the passing of TORCH. Aki TORCH MATCH Day 7:RIKISHI WAKAMOTOHARU vs CHIYOOTORIRANK MAKUSHITA 1 EAST vs MAKUSHITA 7 WEST Player(s) up for points:Konrad’s rank pick is MAKUSHITA 7 WESTTaiga’s rank pick is MAKUSHITA 7 WESTRyoshishokunin’s rikishi pick is WAKAMOTOHARU a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match standings: 10 points – Cydrome 7 points – Obana 4 points – Chisaiyama 4 points – Hakuhofan 4 points – kuroimori 4 points – Pitinosato 4 points – Wamahada 3 points -- Ryoshishokunin 1 point – Andonishiki 1 point – Itachi 1 point – Sagi 1 point – Screeching Owl 1 point – shimodahito 1 point – Terarno 1 point – Yubinhaad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) The TORCH slips a bit; and if it slips more, may not make it to Juryo in November. Aki TORCH MATCH Day 9:RIKISHI CHIYOOTORI vs SAKIGAKERANK MAKUSHITA 7 WEST vs MAKUSHITA 14 EAST Player(s) up for points:Konrad’s rank pick is MAKUSHITA 7 WESTTaiga’s rank pick is MAKUSHITA 7 WESTkuroimori’s rank pick is MAKUSHITA 14 EAST a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match standings: 10 points – Cydrome 7 points – Obana 4 points – Chisaiyama 4 points – Hakuhofan 4 points – kuroimori 4 points – Pitinosato 4 points – Ryoshishokunin 4 points – Wamahada 3 points – Konrad 3 points – Taiga 1 point – Andonishiki 1 point – Itachi 1 point – Sagi 1 point – Screeching Owl 1 point – shimodahito 1 point – Terarno 1 point – Yubinhaad Edited September 18, 2019 by shimodahito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 304 Posted September 18, 2019 Good day all, Amazingly, no players picked the former Ozeki, who is in the Aki TORCH MATCH Day 11:RIKISHI CHIYOOTORI vs TERUNOFUJIRANK MAKUSHITA 7 WEST vs MAKUSHITA 27 EAST Player(s) up for points:Konrad’s rank pick is MAKUSHITA 7 WESTTaiga’s rank pick is MAKUSHITA 7 WEST a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match standings: 10 points – Cydrome 7 points – Obana 6 points – Konrad 6 points – Taiga 5 points – kuroimori 4 points – Chisaiyama 4 points – Hakuhofan 4 points – Pitinosato 4 points – Ryoshishokunin 4 points – Wamahada 1 point – Andonishiki 1 point – Itachi 1 point – Sagi 1 point – Screeching Owl 1 point – shimodahito 1 point – Terarno 1 point – Yubinhaad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
