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18 hours ago, sumojoann said:

That man is Miyabiyama, the greatest fighter in Japan". 

Miyagiyama, who as Akinomaki pointed out, is Mainoumi. but who is he fighting? 

And if the film is in fact from 2005  Mainoumi retired in 1999, so they must have reshot it- and of course, the pillars.. so either the story takes place before the abolishing of the pillars or they went dramatic.

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1 hour ago, Kintamayama said:

Miyagiyama, who as Akinomaki pointed out, is Mainoumi. but who is he fighting? 

And if the film is in fact from 2005  Mainoumi retired in 1999, so they must have reshot it- and of course, the pillars.. so either the story takes place before the abolishing of the pillars or they went dramatic.

The story of the novel the movie was based on takes place before, during, and immediately after WWII. Since the pillars were not abolished until Aki 1952, the scene is consistent with the times, at least as regards that detail.

Perhaps this alternate clip will be more accessible to some:

 

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On the opposite end of the spectrum...

Austin Powers: Goldmember

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2 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Miyagiyama, who as Akinomaki pointed out, is Mainoumi. but who is he fighting? 

I checked the DVD cast listing: Dewaarashi

Edit: gyoji is the 30th Kimura Shonosuke

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52 minutes ago, Otokonoyama said:

The story of the novel the movie was based on takes place before, during, and immediately after WWII. Since the pillars were not abolished until Aki 1952, the scene is consistent with the times, at least as regards that detail.

 

 

What I'm curious about is when they shot it-if it's 2005, Mainoumi was well retired. Did he grow the mage back for the film? Did they use an actual bout during his active days and superimpose the pillars? Did he wear a wig and shoot it 5 years after he retired?

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1 hour ago, Kintamayama said:

What I'm curious about is when they shot it-if it's 2005, Mainoumi was well retired. Did he grow the mage back for the film? Did they use an actual bout during his active days and superimpose the pillars? Did he wear a wig and shoot it 5 years after he retired?

The usual wigs used in samurai movies as well - the 30th Shonosuke retired after Hatsu 2003, the film was shot in the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memoirs_of_a_Geisha_(film)#Production_2

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 Production of the film took place from September 29, 2004 to January 31, 2005. It was decided by the producers that contemporary Japan looked much too modern to film a story which took place between the 1920s and 1940s and it would be more cost-effective to create sets for the film on soundstages and locations in the United States, primarily in California. The majority of the film was shot on a large set built on a ranch in Thousand Oaks, California[8] which was a detailed recreation of an early twentieth-century geisha district in Kyoto, Japan. Most interior scenes were filmed in Culver City, California at the Sony Pictures Studios lot. Other locations in California included San Francisco, Moss Beach, Descanso Gardens in La Cañada Flintridge, Sacramento, Yamashiro's Restaurant in Hollywood, the Japanese Gardens at the Huntington Library and Gardens in San Marino, Hakone Gardens in Saratoga, and Downtown Los Angeles at the Belasco Theater on Hill Street. Towards the end of production, some scenes were shot in Kyoto, Japan, including the Fushimi Inari Taisha the head shrine of Inari, located in Fushimi-ku, Kyoto.

Btw, Dewaarashi plays a rikishi named 西鳳 (Saiho?) https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAYURI#キャスト

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8 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

What I'm curious about is when they shot it-if it's 2005, Mainoumi was well retired. Did he grow the mage back for the film? Did they use an actual bout during his active days and superimpose the pillars? Did he wear a wig and shoot it 5 years after he retired?

You joke, but this is clearly Hollywood magic.

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Here is a video of 2 English-speaking Finnish guys on another one of their "Madventures", this time in an episode from 2009 called "Nippon".  They go to a heya and attempt to train with the rikishi.  Humorous but silly.  One said that by wearing a mawashi he was hoping to kick some rikishi butt! lol  See 14:50 to 17:34 for the sumo segment.

 

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The following is a video about a TV show host, Toure, who likes to try anything once.  This time it's sumo.  Even though he is only 170 lbs, he's eager to immerse himself in the world of sumo.  He meets up with 700-lb Emmanuel (Manny) Yarborough, who was the 1995 Amateur Sumo World Champion, who tells Toure that he will get him ready in 4 days so he can enter a sumo tournament!!  He is introduced to Yoshisada Yunezuka, who has an 8th degree black belt in judo.  He has his own dojo in New Jersey where he teaches Toure all about sumo.  Toure ultimately enters the sumo tournament & fights 4 bouts.  At first I thought this video was new because it was uploaded in April of this year.  However, I found out that Yarborough passed away in 2015 and Yunezuka passed away in 2014.  In further checking, the TV show "I'll Try Anything Once" came out in 2008.  I enjoyed it because Toure showed true interest in sumo and really applied himself and learned a lot about himself in the process.

 

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I am puzzled because I could not find this Discovery Channel documentary in English.  This documentary was obviously originally made in English but it's been dubbed into Russian.  Does anyone know what happened to the original non-dubbed English language version?

 

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This is pretty dumb.   It has a pretty fake Japanese sumo wrestler who fights Curly Joe of the 3 Stooges.  The Japanese promoter gets excited about the idea of holding a World Sumo Championship in San Francisco.  There's only one bout and the ring is actually a boxing ring.  If you are a fan of the 3 Stooges, you might get a kick out of this.  The funniest line was when the bout wasn't going well, the Japanese promoter smacked his forehead and muttered, "Oy vay!"  The sumo segment runs from 1:00:24 until 1:11:45.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_0YVD0kpHU 

Youtube doesn't allow embedding of this video.  If the link doesn't work, do a search on Youtube for --- The 3 Stooges Go Around the World in a Daze (1963).

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Tiger Tanaka, this is for you!!!!!  Fascinating documentary that goes into detail on the making of "You Only Live  Twice".  The sumo wrestling scenes are very brief but it's stated that the bouts were real, that the wrestlers wouldn't do them unless they were, and that they gathered 8,000 people together for the Sumo Grand Championship.  They also indicated that the audience sound was the actual soundtrack of the audience (watching the sumo bouts).  The sumo wrestling scenes start at 20:45 and end at 21:24.

 

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