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On 06/12/2018 at 00:06, Eikokurai said:

I think the point for you to take away is not to underestimate the amateur side of the sport, particularly globally and within Japan itself where the level is high. If you’re serious about participating in sumo, it will stand you in good stead if you approach amateur sumo with the same mindset as you would if you were pro. If you think it’s beneath you, you’ll get nowhere. I hope it works out for you and there’s a good thread on this forum about amateur sumo where I’m sure you can get answers and support. 

I’m always trying to keep that mindset. Even if I go pro, I still want to be the best I can. One of my goals would to be able to hold my own against a pro. It’s kinda disconcerting when people make it sound like it’s pointless, or doesn’t have as much respect as pro. A lot of it is me psyching myself out too. Which usually happens if there’s something I’m getting into. But it can also be a good motivator. Thanx

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2 hours ago, Oushimaru1138 said:

I’m always trying to keep that mindset. Even if I go pro, I still want to be the best I can. One of my goals would to be able to hold my own against a pro. It’s kinda disconcerting when people make it sound like it’s pointless, or doesn’t have as much respect as pro. A lot of it is me psyching myself out too. Which usually happens if there’s something I’m getting into. But it can also be a good motivator. Thanx

Ultimately, who cares if amateur gets as much "respect" as professional? Do you love the idea of doing sumo? If so, do it. If not, don't. If you're doing it for some sort of external validation of worth, which is what it sounds like in some of your posts, you won't last at it long enough to get that validation even if it's there to be had. Further, sumo is a niche activity that doesn't garner as much respect as it should anyways. So don't worry about it, and if you love it, do it. 

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1 minute ago, Tochinofuji said:

Ultimately, who cares if amateur gets as much "respect" as professional? Do you love the idea of doing sumo? If so, do it. If not, don't. If you're doing it for some sort of external validation of worth, which is what it sounds like in some of your posts, you won't last at it long enough to get that validation even if it's there to be had. Further, sumo is a niche activity that doesn't garner as much respect as it should anyways. So don't worry about it, and if you love it, do it. 

I’m doing it regardless. I’ll admit there is a bit of validation, but it’s mostly for myself, to prove that I can do it, and if I get recognition for this, I’ll be happy. But my goal is to at least reach a level comparable to yokozuna. And to maybe one day meet the rikishi that inspired me to want to do sumo in the first place

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10 hours ago, Oushimaru1138 said:

But my goal is to at least reach a level comparable to yokozuna.

Made my day. (Laughing...)

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16 hours ago, Naganoyama said:

Is it time to close this thread?

Why? It's the thread that makes the most sense these days.

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I've seen this type of posts in a golf forum.   A person new to the forum posts for the 1st time asking about his chance of becoming a pro.   Many are trolls.   Once in a while, someone sounds genuine (but extremely naive).     This is the 1st time I've seen a post like this in sumo forum.   

My advice to the OP - find something you can do for a decent living.   You can always watch sumo and daydream.     Your chance of becoming a pro sumo wrestler is near zero as my chance of becoming the president of United States.      

For those who are giving him actual advice as if the dream is even remotely possible, you know you are not doing him any good (and shame on you).

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24 minutes ago, robnplunder said:

I've seen this type of posts in a golf forum.   A person new to the forum posts for the 1st time asking about his chance of becoming a pro.   Many are trolls.   Once in a while, someone sounds genuine (but extremely naive).     This is the 1st time I've seen a post like this in sumo forum.   

On the one hand, this whole thread is obvious trolling. On the other hand, we had some kind of precedence on this forum with a gaijin becoming sekitori.

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38 minutes ago, robnplunder said:

Your chance of becoming a pro sumo wrestler is near zero as my chance of becoming the president of United States. 

Judging by recent events, I'd say less.

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24 minutes ago, Nantonoyama said:

On the one hand, this whole thread is obvious trolling. On the other hand, we had some kind of precedence on this forum with a gaijin becoming sekitori.

If you are referring to Osuna, he was already in amateur sumo and at an age where he could do the move to pro.

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1 hour ago, robnplunder said:

I've seen this type of posts in a golf forum.   A person new to the forum posts for the 1st time asking about his chance of becoming a pro.   Many are trolls.   Once in a while, someone sounds genuine (but extremely naive).     This is the 1st time I've seen a post like this in sumo forum.   

 

We've had quite a few actually, most of them by the same guy making his yearly rounds under different handles.

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I’ve literally just joined the forum. I’ve always wanted to do sumo, and a friend told me about when he first moved to Japan, he was able to get a visa that allowed him to stay because he was learning a fighting style there, and I was hoping sumo would’ve been one of those. And personally it’s not even about going pro anymore, more I’d want to be able to hold my own. I made the original post in order to get some answers, abd it just became this. And if people thought it was a waste of time, why even comment? And also I am setting everything up so I can start practicing this year. I hope to prove some the people on here wrong. And I want a chance to earn the respect of a former Yokozuna. Even if I can’t be pro, I can still train to be as strong as them. 

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Yes, a cultural activities visa is one type of visa that is granted to those wishing to reside in Japan beyond the limits of a tourist stay. You can check the website of the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, or search for one of many of the companies that assist people attempting to get certain visas for a fee.

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2 hours ago, Otokonoyama said:

Yes, a cultural activities visa is one type of visa that is granted to those wishing to reside in Japan beyond the limits of a tourist stay. You can check the website of the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, or search for one of many of the companies that assist people attempting to get certain visas for a fee.

That’s what it’s called, thanx

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5 hours ago, Otokonoyama said:

 

1) most are too short; NFL offensive lineman are usually ~6'4" (193 cm).

2) offensive linemen cannot hold the opponent (I know, I know, they get away with it too often), so there is NO mawashi-grabbing allowed.

3) offensive lines (2 tackles, 2 guards, 1 center) must act as a unit, especially in pass defense; rikishi don't seem very good at that.

It makes more sense the other way around: NFL linemen would be thrilled to find out that they could hold legally.  The prototype for this body type would be, say, Baruto (with more speed).

 

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I've taken NFL linemen into sumo stables and rikishi to football games.

 

Did a piece on that topic here:

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17 hours ago, John Gunning said:

I've taken NFL linemen into sumo stables and rikishi to football games.

 

Did a piece on that topic here:

Thanks, I've always wondered about that. Lineman even do butsugari but the one lending the chest is always just a simple sled.

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