Kyushu Basho 2018 Discussion [SPOILERS]

[Eikokurai 3,433]

1 minute ago, Amamaniac said:

makioshiri (巻きお尻)

makiokoshi works too: 巻きお腰

[Kyokufuji 61]

On 11/11/2018 at 22:34, Kyokufuji said:

It’s much easier to be a Takakeisho fan than it is to be a fan of the other rikishi I root for: when he wins he deserves the win, and when he loses he was truly beaten.

Except for Day 14. Oof!

Though credit to Takayasu for some unexpected Harumafuji-level footwork.

[Rocks 1,807]

3 minutes ago, Kyokufuji said:

Except for Day 14. Oof!

Though credit to Takayasu for some unexpected Harumafuji-level footwork.

Naw, he deserved to lose. Yes, that was a tremendous push after the tachi-ai that sent Takayasu way back, but not out, and to get it Takakeisho overextended himself and got his hands arms tied up with Takayasu. Tied up inside with Takayasu is not a good place to be.  Takakeisho tried harder than he needed to and got out of position. If he went for less of a push and keeps his feet then went for the slap as he has been he would probably have that yusho right now.

[robnplunder 974]

49 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Naw, he deserved to lose. Yes, that was a tremendous push after the tachi-ai that sent Takayasu way back, but not out, and to get it Takakeisho overextended himself and got his hands arms tied up with Takayasu. Tied up inside with Takayasu is not a good place to be.  Takakeisho tried harder than he needed to and got out of position. If he went for less of a push and keeps his feet then went for the slap as he has been he would probably have that yusho right now.

+1.   The little man should have taken the yusho.  Was it two basho ago?  He lost a few by losing balance.   In this basho, his balance was excellent.  Hopefully, it was just an unlucky loss and he bounces back today.

[Highway 46]

Gosh what a last two days. Takakeisho lost kind of the same way he won yesterday, had the initiative but slipped up. Down to the wire on the last day now, I think the chances for a playoff are very high.

[Churaumi 728]

Seems like they are throwing both the Takas a bone when they drew up the matches. I wouldn’t normally say that about a Mitakeumi bout but he’s not himself this basho. Not a disastrous showing, but disappointing for sure.

[robnplunder 974]

On the two Taka matches today, I think Takakeisho have a harder draw.   Nishikigi is in better form than Mitakeumi who does not do well against Takayasu anyway.   Yusho advantage to Takayasu.

[ALAKTORN 346]

9 hours ago, Morty said:

What's the kimarite called where you knock your opponent down with your butt while doing a twirl?

You say that as a joke but I was pretty sure a kimarite for it existed. Does it not? I can’t recall a name.

Edit: Looking it up, I might have been thinking of ushiromotare? Don’t know how exactly that works.

Edited November 24, 2018 by ALAKTORN

[itchyknee 60]

33 minutes ago, ALAKTORN said:

You say that as a joke but I was pretty sure a kimarite for it existed. Does it not? I can’t recall a name.

Edit: Looking it up, I might have been thinking of ushiromotare? Don’t know how exactly that works.

Edited November 24, 2018 by itchyknee

[Amamaniac 2,078]

Behind the scenes.

For those who didn't have time to watch the full HNK broadcast, there were some "behind the scenes" points of interest:

1) During Nishikigi's KK interview, the interviewer asked if he knew who he would be facing the next day.  He didn't know.  (Talk about focusing on the present.). The interviewer asked if it was alright if he told Nishikigi.  (That was very considerate.)  The latter didn't seem fazed to learn that his final opponent would be Takakeisho.

2) Cameras cut away to try and catch Takayasu coming out of the shitakubeya.  At first, they were too early to see Takayasu, but right on time to catch Takarafuji in his skivvies pulling up a pair of blue shorts.  Embarrassing!

3) At the start of the now infamous "Taka v. Taka" Day 14 bout, there was a man standing in his boxed seat with a white banner (exactly like the kensho banners) showing the inscription: TAKAYASKU with "Aloha" coming out of the first A and "Hawaii" coming out of the second A.  Do some people think Takayasu is Hawaiian, or does Takayasu simply have a huge Hawaiian fan base?

[Amamaniac 2,078]

The Senshuraku torikumi impress me given that 3 Yokozunas and 1 Ozeki are kyujo.  Not sure about the Ichinojo v. Kagayaki matchup in Koreyori Sanyaku, but really like the match up between Takakeisho and Nishikigi.  I think the torikumi favour Takayasu, who will be fighting a spiritless Mitakeumi.

Edited November 24, 2018 by Amamaniac

[yorikiried by fate 1,989]

On 23/11/2018 at 22:11, Eikokurai said:

It was a turn of phrase. I didn’t literally mean that I couldn’t remember! [...]

Welcome to the world of pragmatics. ;)

Fair enough.

I have a superlative-intolerance, though.

[Eikokurai 3,433]

4 hours ago, Churaumi said:

Seems like they are throwing both the Takas a bone when they drew up the matches. I wouldn’t normally say that about a Mitakeumi bout but he’s not himself this basho. Not a disastrous showing, but disappointing for sure.

Nishikigi has looked hard to move this time around. I think Takayasu has the easier bout, tbh.

[Churaumi 728]

19 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

Nishikigi has looked hard to move this time around. I think Takayasu has the easier bout, tbh.

I’m pretty impressed with Nishikigi, don’t know where it came from but I like it.

[Yamanashi 3,728]

4 hours ago, ALAKTORN said:

You say that as a joke but I was pretty sure a kimarite for it existed. Does it not? I can’t recall a name.

Edit: Looking it up, I might have been thinking of ushiromotare? Don’t know how exactly that works.

It looks something like the Japanese version of the "Time Warp"

[Otokonoyama 2,735]

 

[Otokonoyama 2,735]

Tomokaze takes his first juryo yusho.

[Otokonoyama 2,735]

Pins and needles time...Takakeisho wins after a false start and a slip, and now finishes either tied for a playoff, or outright yusho.

[CT3* 331]

Tonight I attended a small dinner gathering with legendary Japanese actor Akira Takarada (Gojira). Had the pleasure of briefly chatting with him about Sumo and showed him some pictures of me at the Kokugikan. He'd actually watched the Day 14 matches and we chatted briefly about legends past like Taiho and Chiyonofuji. When I asked him who was his current favorite, he promptly responded, "Takayasu!" This surprised me so I asked, "not Kisenosato?" and he didn't answer. Not sure if he misunderstood my question, but it seems he's rooting for Takayasu on senshuraku!

[robnplunder 974]

Shohozan vs Tochinoshin was a big mess.  It should have never been.   Late matta calls were terrible in this basho.   Call early or don't call at all.   Shame.

Edited November 25, 2018 by robnplunder

[Otokonoyama 2,735]

2 minutes ago, robnplunder said:

Shohozan vs Tochinoshin was a big mess.  It should have never been.   Late matta calls were terrible in this basho.   Call early or don't call at all.   Shame.

Yeah, Tochinoshin got robbed once, twice, thrice. Now imagine that match was deciding a kachikoshi or kadoban. Just wow.

[Rocks 1,807]

Wow. Takayasu goes down. Congrats to Takakeisho. 

[Otokonoyama 2,735]

Takakeisho yusho!

[Eikokurai 3,433]

Oh dear. The yusho escapes Takayasu’s grasp yet again. 

Still, at least Kisenosato can retire now.

Takakeisho has now won a yusho in all divisions except sandanme. Nice.

Edited November 25, 2018 by Eikokurai

[Flyric 94]

What a match, well played Mitakeumi!