Aki Basho 2018 Discussion [SPOILERS]

[Akinomaki 40,666]

Nishikido's excuse: Shodai and Yutakayama (same heya) are always together (and Yutakayama is more impressive)
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Edited September 11, 2018 by Akinomaki

[ALAKTORN 346]

Kisenosato is cutting it close but he’s definitely got a lot of heart. He really doesn’t want to lose.

The monoii explanations were pretty embarrassing.

Edited September 11, 2018 by ALAKTORN

[Benihana 1,929]

Nishikido = CTE

3 hours ago, pmac said:

very entertaining basho so far, hope kise can rack up the needed wins!

aaand betting on sumo is fun (when it goes like this lol)

Alter! Welche App/Webseite ist das? Nach sowas such ich scho ewig!

 

It's funny how they desparately try to avoid the left hand grip of death. As if there hadn't been any injury. at all. After those 3 days i'm almost 100% sure Kise is back...barring re-injury.

Edited September 11, 2018 by Benihana

[Rainoyama 1,157]

29 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

Nishikido's excuse: Shodai and Yutakayama (same heya) are always together (and Yutakayama is more impressive)
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Man that's just embarassing and sad, I hope he got a nice memo from his boss. Also it's sad for Shodai who is reminded he has no charisma and doesn't look like he is ever gonna make it to the next level.

[WAKATAKE 2,665]

Kise is now in sole 7th for makuuchi wins at 707, passing Musashimaru.

[Dwale 419]

5 hours ago, ryafuji said:

I don't think I've ever seen so many mono-ii in one day. Also can't decide if Kise is brilliant defensively or just lucky.

Kisenosato has a knack for reversing things with his back to the bales.

Edited September 11, 2018 by Dwale

[Philioyamfugi 378]

I'm starting to really like Takakeisho ... Tough lil bugger and about impossible to get his belt. 

[pmac 34]

1 hour ago, Benihana said:

Nishikido = CTE

Alter! Welche App/Webseite ist das? Nach sowas such ich scho ewig!

 

It's funny how they desparately try to avoid the left hand grip of death. As if there hadn't been any injury. at all. After those 3 days i'm almost 100% sure Kise is back...barring re-injury.

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[Feginowaka 53]

5 minutes ago, pmac said:

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[pmac 34]

1 minute ago, Feginowaka said:

looks like 1xbet also has Sumo betting:
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[Jabbamaru 167]

If, instead of kise, was, for example, kakuryu performing this way...i dont think he would get this kind of "wow, great defensive ozumo" condecendent comments...

The way i see...no one wants to be the "japanese zuna's undertaker"...Who can blame the boys for that?

But i dont like him so maybe im just blinded by hate 

[dingo 1,267]

18 hours ago, Rocks said:

Baseball history is littered with guys who did a few months to a year in the majors. The same with other sports. Nobody remembers them. They are called the minor leagues for a reason. When the  guy does something in the paid ranks against healthy veterans you can begin to talk going somewhere. Given his physical abilities? In Sumo? I just don't see how that happens. You may get a hit off a major league pitcher but heart isn't going to give you a good batting percentage against him over a season. You may out think a NBA player on a few plays but brains alone aren't going to beat him over 48 minutes.

Heck, who knows? Maybe Enho will even KK once or twice in Juryo, but it will be the bottom of Juryo most likely.  Given the quality of the guys he has beat? I wouldn't count on him even doing that. 

You may have a different definition of going somewhere, but Enho has reached sekitorihood, which hundreds of rikishi dream about and will never attain. He's done it very fast, winning three lower division yusho on the way. I'd say that's far from going nowhere as you originally implied. He's still young and it's very premature to say what his career will look like. 

[Kotomiyama 172]

52 minutes ago, Philioyamfugi said:

I'm starting to really like Takakeisho ... Tough lil bugger and about impossible to get his belt. 

His first visit to the upper ranks was disappointing,  now he seems to have found a way to get solid results with his blender-style sumo.

[Kuroyama 715]

39 minutes ago, Jabbamaru said:

If, instead of kise, was, for example, kakuryu performing this way...i dont think he would get this kind of "wow, great defensive ozumo" condecendent comments...

The way i see...no one wants to be the "japanese zuna's undertaker"...Who can blame the boys for that?

But i dont like him so maybe im just blinded by hate 

I seem to remember Kisenosato very often allowing himself to get pushed back to the bales before pulling out a win. In that respect, he hasn't been doing anything different. What I think is missing right now is previous assurance, so his victories have been less clean.

[Yamanashi 3,874]

15 minutes ago, dingo said:

You may have a different definition of going somewhere, but Enho has reached sekitorihood, which hundreds of rikishi dream about and will never attain. He's done it very fast, winning three lower division yusho on the way. I'd say that's far from going nowhere as you originally implied. He's still young and it's very premature to say what his career will look like. 

This.  Enho has been overachieving since he entered Grand Sumo.  Went to college but started in Jk.  3 straight yusho and into Makushita (not starting in Ms or Sd).  He's undersized and light (169, 95 at Hatsu dohyo); maybe that's why Hakuho (80 kg at H.d. ) picked him out.  Maybe he'll be remembered as a Japanese Takanoyama, I dunno.  But everyone wants to see his videos.

[Feginowaka 53]

What a strange/funny "dance" was that, what Chiyoshoma did today after winning against Takanosho?
Was the dohyo that hot or did Takanosho fall on on Chiyoshomas toe or was he just happy?

[Eikokurai 3,437]

4 hours ago, Mihasan said:

Any news about Kyokutaisei? His knee was in bad shape after the bout...

I thought it was his ankle.

[Jabbamaru 167]

He is good on the tawara for sure...but i really seen some mercy by his aites in this basho so far...

17 minutes ago, Kuroyama said:

I seem to remember Kisenosato very often allowing himself to get pushed back to the bales before pulling out a win. In that respect, he hasn't been doing anything different. What I think is missing right now is previous assurance, so his victories have been less cle

 

[Jakusotsu 5,995]

10 minutes ago, Feginowaka said:

What a strange/funny "dance" was that, what Chiyoshoma did today after winning against Takanosho?
Was the dohyo that hot or did Takanosho fall on on Chiyoshomas toe or was he just happy?

He just wanted to avoid being called shinitai again.

[since_94 650]

I think Ikioi let up against Kise and agree with other posters that this is probably happening this basho. Still, exciting to see Kise snatching victory out of the jaws of defeat on the  tawara like in preinjury days, and have 5hat steel in his eye after a win. I’m rooting for the big man to make a strong showing, but he doesn’t look strong enough to win because of psychological factors i.e. self doubt, nerves. A Yokozuna with his eyes closed before or after a match looks like a man wrestling with serious nerves, IMO.

[Dwale 419]

And here come the yaocho police. Really, guys? Is it that hard to believe that a rikishi as experienced and talented as Kisenosato can find ways to win against lower-ranked opponents even if he's rusty and not at 100%? You think Ikioi and Yutakayama passed up kinboshi for ****s and giggles? Come on, get real!

[Jabbamaru 167]

Im not Yutaka or Ikioi...But...Sure i would pass a kinboshi with the potential to make me be hated by all Japan...when a guy who dosen't fight in months and dont have a important muscle on his body wins 3 fights with such an lame sumo...well...who you gonna call? Yaocho busters!

[sekitori 492]

11 hours ago, Dwale said:

What was Mainoumi's fighting weight during his tenure in makuuchi?

According to Wikipedia, whose information may or may  not be correct, he weighed 216 lb. (98 kg.). Another source stated a similar weight,  around 213 lb. I remember that he was always mentioned as weighing very close to 100 kg. during his makuuchi  career, so those figures sound fairly accurate. 

Edited September 12, 2018 by sekitori

[Rainoyama 1,157]

As expected from what we could see yesterday, Kyokutaisei is kyujo from today it has been announced on twitter. Let's hope it's not too serious. With only one win from this rank he'll be in juryo next basho if he doesn't come back and get a few more wins (very unlikely). His aite today is Ryuden M13E he'll get the freebie and is 3-1 now. 

[Kuroyama 715]

2 hours ago, Jabbamaru said:

Im not Yutaka or Ikioi...But...Sure i would pass a kinboshi with the potential to make me be hated by all Japan...when a guy who dosen't fight in months and dont have a important muscle on his body wins 3 fights with such an lame sumo...well...who you gonna call? Yaocho busters!

Except that Kisenosato has had a reputation his entire career as gachinko, even during the darkest days of the bout-fixing scandal when one article ID'd him as one of only 4 such rikishi in Makuuchi. (The other 3 were Aminishiki, Takamisakari, and Wakanosato. https://japantoday.com/category/features/kuchikomi/the-tv-viewers-guide-to-sumo-bout-fixing)  A few years earlier when the newly-expelled Wakanoho decided to spill the yaocho beans to the tabloids before he was prevailed upon to clam up, Kisenosato was also pointed out as clean. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2008/10/17/sumo/why-is-ousted-wakanoho-dishing-the-dirt-now/#.W5iKG6LK-1s While it's not impossible that he's the unknowing beneficiary of a coordinated campaign to keep him active on the dohyo, I can't see him purposely spoiling his reputation at this late stage.

And I don't know about last night. The replay showed him clearly winning, but it was close enough for a mono-ii.

Edited September 12, 2018 by Kuroyama