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Aki Basho 2018 Discussion [SPOILERS]

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9 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Aoiyama injured his left ankle - it turned over as he dropped off the dohyo in the day 4 Hokutofuji bout. He had to lean on the shoulder of a tsukebito as he left. Kasugano-oyakata decided that they will decide if he'll appear for the day 5 bout against Okinoumi after looking at the condition of the leg in the morning. http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20180912/sum18091220290014-n1.html

Has there been anything more on this? Yutakayama is reported as being out with an elbow injury he sustained against Kisenosato. 

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2 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Do you have to always get it right?

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

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1 hour ago, Rocks said:

Has there been anything more on this? Yutakayama is reported as being out with an elbow injury he sustained against Kisenosato. 

As of 12noon entering the kokugikan, nothing on Aoiyama & Yutakayama yet. 

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Just now, rhyen said:

As of 12noon entering the kokugikan, nothing on Aoiyama & Yutakayama yet. 

They scheduled him for Day 6 so he must be going to mount the dohyo. 

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Someone should post the Midorifuji-Nankairiki match if they can get ahold of it. 

Toyonoshima is now 1 win away from returning to sekitori after losing an advantageous position to being forced back on the straw bales to pull off an outrageous kotenage from his position. 

STOP PRESS

Akua wins after withstanding Enho’s submarine attack.

I guess the Jokoryu-Hakuyozan suicide lover embrace didn’t pan out  

 

 

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4 hours ago, Rocks said:

 Yutakayama is reported as being out with an elbow injury he sustained against Kisenosato. 

Don't let him fool you! Its all part of the yaocho long con....

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8 hours ago, dingo said:

 

And I find Takayasu's post-win nonchalant "I can't be bothered by this" face extremely funny. Looks to me like he's channeling his inner Musashimaru :P

Takayasu has been quietly amazing so far and to me a biggest surprise of this basho, because of all the pre-basho worries about his condition I saw him around kadoban level and he's 4-0 with quite convincing, formidable-looking sumo (at least last two bouts)

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The magic's gone from Ishiura since the last basho?  He's going to juryo it seems.

A close call at joining yusho must have rejuvenated Yoshikaze :-).

Ura has already one loss.  I still hope he goes 6-1 but 5-2 is looking more likely.

 

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5 hours ago, Bumpkin said:

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

That gives me hope.  

Nice gesture between Takanoiwa and Chiyoshoma after the bout's end.  Would love to see how Hak or Kak woud react if Takanoiwa ever climbs high enough (in the next basho?) to face those two.   Would Hak give him an extra push out of the ring, give him dirty look or two, ...?   

 

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Anyone think there was some yaocho going on with Mitakeumi vs Tochinoshin today? That looked suspiciously by the book. (I have no idea whether it was or wasn't. I'm just curious about the general consensus.)

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10 minutes ago, Taikoubana said:

Anyone think there was some yaocho going on with Mitakeumi vs Tochinoshin today? That looked suspiciously by the book. (I have no idea whether it was or wasn't. I'm just curious about the general consensus.)

Nope.   I predicted Mita's win b/c I believe Tochinoshin hasn't fully recovered.   Mr. T seems to be favoring his right knee.   If he is healthy, I don't think Mita could have beaten him so easily.  Besides Tochinoshin is kadoban and needs every win to hang on to his Ozeki rank.

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Geesh!   Takakeisho almost beat Hak who couldn't help with the sheepish grin afterward.    I feel sorry for Takakeisho.   The good news is, there is no more Yokozuna left for him to face :-).

Kise keeps finding ways to hang on to a win.   

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17 minutes ago, Taikoubana said:

Anyone think there was some yaocho going on with Mitakeumi vs Tochinoshin today? That looked suspiciously by the book. (I have no idea whether it was or wasn't. I'm just curious about the general consensus.)

No way, Tochinoshin is kadoban and he's got 5 rough matches in the 2nd week.

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18 minutes ago, Taikoubana said:

Anyone think there was some yaocho going on with Mitakeumi vs Tochinoshin today? That looked suspiciously by the book. (I have no idea whether it was or wasn't. I'm just curious about the general consensus.)

Any yaocho arrangement would more likely be in Tochinoshin’s favour, not Mitakeumi’s. The former is fighting to avoid losing his rank, whereas Mitakeumi is just on an Ozeki run. The man with something to lose isn’t going to gift a win to a man who suffers nothing if he loses.

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22 minutes ago, Rigel said:

No way, Tochinoshin is kadoban and he's got 5 rough matches in the 2nd week.

Come on, even my 77-year old mother would have shown more resistence than Tochinoshin!
That was a really lame defense.

One has to be blind or blue-eyed (or both) if one denies that there is NO yaocho in Sumo (especially in this fight today).

Tochinoshin just needs 8 wins and there is also still the OBSC that will help him.
Mitakeumi needs 11 wins, which is quite a bit more and therefore he needs every yaocho-yen to secure these wins.

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7 minutes ago, Feginowaka said:

Come on, even my 77-year old mother would have shown more resistence than Tochinoshin!
That was a really lame defense.

One has to be blind or blue-eyed (or both) if one denies that there is NO yaocho in Sumo (especially in this fight today).

Tochinoshin just needs 8 wins and there is also still the OBSC that will help him.
Mitakeumi needs 11 wins, which is quite a bit more and therefore he needs every yaocho-yen to secure these wins.

Yaocho in sumo? Sure. By Tochinoshin in a kadoban tournament where’s he trying to avoid becoming the worst ozeki on record? Doubtful. You say “only” eight wins are needed but he’s now dropped two in five days. That’s playing with fire if he’s pinning all his hopes on getting five more in the remaining ten days. Unless you think he’s made some yaocho arrangements of his own?

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28 minutes ago, Feginowaka said:

Come on, even my 77-year old mother would have shown more resistence than Tochinoshin!
That was a really lame defense.

One has to be blind or blue-eyed (or both) if one denies that there is NO yaocho in Sumo (especially in this fight today).

Tochinoshin just needs 8 wins and there is also still the OBSC that will help him.
Mitakeumi needs 11 wins, which is quite a bit more and therefore he needs every yaocho-yen to secure these wins.

Tochinoshin has only one eye. Yaocho? Really? Feginowaka? Are you sure aliens didn't kidnap you and replace you with Mike??

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Anyone can see Tochinoshin is really struggling. I wonder if it's his knee? He seems so tentative on it, I noticed on his pre-tachiai shuffle, he seems a bit tippy toe-y (if that's even a word)

Hope he'll be ok...

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1 hour ago, Taikoubana said:

Anyone think there was some yaocho going on with Mitakeumi vs Tochinoshin today? That looked suspiciously by the book. (I have no idea whether it was or wasn't. I'm just curious about the general consensus.)

No. Tochinoshin gave up a morozashi against a very good rikishi and didn't manage to get both arms over the back to grab and lift which is his usual defense against that. As soon as that happens against the guy that got the last yusho he's toast.

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Kise proving why they made him a yokozuna. Rusty, unfit, under enormous pressure, finds a way to win. Fabulous stuff so far.

And Mitakeumi just got the first of the couple (minimum) of wins he needs against the Y/O if he is going to join them in November

 

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54 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

Tochinoshin has only one eye. Yaocho? Really? Feginowaka? Are you sure aliens didn't kidnap you and replace you with Mike??

Gee this yaocho bent is infesting this forum. Thank goodness there are many long time respected watches of sumo out weighing these trolls.

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It seems that Hakuho would have lost if Onousho had been fast to follow up the side step with pushing  Hakuho out of the ring.

It does not seem to go quite the way for Tochinoshin to win the Yusho. Amazingly we have all yokozuna at 0 loses, that is unusual, because I have not

seen this happen before. 

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3 hours ago, Taikoubana said:

Anyone think there was some yaocho going on with Mitakeumi vs Tochinoshin today? That looked suspiciously by the book. (I have no idea whether it was or wasn't. I'm just curious about the general consensus.)

Absolutely not. As others have already mentioned, Tochinoshin is A) recovering from injury and B) Kadoban, and likely to have his butt handed to him multiple times next week. He needs every win.

Something I don't believe anyone has mentioned, but is worth noting, is that once the opponent has a moro-zashi locked in, it reduces your options dramatically. In this case, Mitakeumi was driving in hard against a vulnerable opponent who simply had no time to formulate a counter-attack. 

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1 hour ago, Akōgyokuseki said:

Anyone can see Tochinoshin is really struggling. I wonder if it's his knee? He seems so tentative on it, I noticed on his pre-tachiai shuffle, he seems a bit tippy toe-y (if that's even a word)

Hope he'll be ok...

It's his toe. And now he's half-blind too.

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Mitakeumi did a splendid job at tachiai, Tochinoshin not so much. But it's hard to do anything in combat sports when you have only one eye and can't judge distances properly.

Takakeisho...how does this guy keep doing the same thing to near everybody and have success with it? Incredible. Today he nearly caught Hakuho off guard, were it not for GOAT's superb footwork and balance.

Kakuryu remains quietly in the race, showing solid, decisive sumo. Could this be Kak basho? I wouldn't be surprised if it were so.

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