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Basho Talk Haru 2018 (SPOILERS)

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21 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

The winner of Kaisei-Ikioi will of course get a kanto-sho, but will Ikioi get one, too, if he loses? Kaisei should have it secured by being in the yusho lead that long.

Tochinoshin shukun-sho is also fix, and I expect Endo to get the gino-sho.

Ikioi had been told before the bout that he had to win to get it - it at least didn't help. Of course NHK mentioned that the local boy had made the fans boil each day and would have deserved it unconditionally, but - the media convention didn't agree

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40 minutes ago, WAKATAKE said:

When did I say Takayasu was kadoban? He was still in the yusho race until today.

Generally when someone refers to an ozeki maintaining his status they mean he’s not getting demoted. What other status is there for them to maintain?

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39 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

Generally when someone refers to an ozeki maintaining his status they mean he’s not getting demoted. What other status is there for them to maintain?

Top ozeki on the banzuke

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Heh, fan service musubi no ichiban. Not sure torinaoshi was really warranted there as the decision...

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9 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

Heh, fan service musubi no ichiban. Not sure torinaoshi was really warranted there as the decision...

Not at all, clearly Takayasu won the first time, twice for good measure doesn’t hurt I guess

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Ichinojo shouldn't have tried Tochinoshin's signature move tsuridashi on him and arouse his anger - he rather should have done his own signature move of leaning on him for a minute

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I've not seen today's bouts yet, but chuffed to see that Tochinoshin hit double figures.

I'd like to have seen Ikioi get 12 wins, but then I also like Kaisei and someone has to lose. Great basho for both of them.

Back to back jun-yushos for Takayasu looks good on paper, but I can't help feeling neither was all that spectacular. He needs to be in the yusho race from the beginning really, setting the pace, not clawing back from slow starts. Still, perhaps a year of similar results could put him in the same sort of position as Kisenosato in terms of taking the rope.

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Takayasu has looked rather consistent and strong this year after a rough start as Ozeki. He can go toe-to-toe with anyone else in the sanyaku ranks, although the early basho losses seem to be his achilles heal. So long as he continues to improve and train hard, the Natsu yusho could be his (barring serious injuries.)

But of course, another hearty congrats to Kakuryu! (Yushowinner...) The big guy looks happy to finally get his hands on the cup once more.

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7 minutes ago, Taikoubana said:

Takayasu has looked rather consistent and strong this year after a rough start as Ozeki. He can go toe-to-toe with anyone else in the sanyaku ranks, although the early basho losses seem to be his achilles heal. So long as he continues to improve and train hard, the Natsu yusho could be his (barring serious injuries.)

Sounds a lot like an ex-Ozeki...

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Banzai chants at the yusho parade for Kakuryuu - uploaded onto the NSK official Instagram account, no less. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BgvmuI0A2Gv/

 

Edit: I am informed by a reputable source that this is non-news and it happens every basho. 

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Who did kak have carrying his yusho flag?  I don’t recognize him.

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6 minutes ago, Munjeezy said:

Who did kak have carrying his yusho flag?  I don’t recognize him.

I believe that's Nishikigi, but I could be wrong.

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So Takanoiwa eked out his KK against Gagamaru on the senshuraku.  I guess that means he has started his comeback.  Having been bashed on the head with a beer bottle remote control, and having missed two tournaments, his return to the ring was a little shaky, but he rallied in the end (i.e., three straight wins).  Chances are that he will return to the Top Division sometime this year.  I'm dying to see if and when he gets to go up against Hakuho again and defend his perfect record!

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19 hours ago, Benevolance said:

So...what I'm hearing is that you think Mitakeumi will still be in sanyaku next tournament. 

Well, yeah lol.

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My personal hipster basho impressions:

  • Ryuden is a joy to watch. A bit like Okinoumi without the volatile nerves.
  • Takarafuji had a couple of bad beats but clearly belongs (IMHO) in or around the sanyaku slots for the time being. Very valid sumo (if only a bit shaky this basho).
  • Shohozan is walking attitude. His post-bout demeanor is priceless (and almost Aminishiki-grade).
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Congrates to Kakayuu to bad he did not get the win today. Looks like Tochinoshin solidly on an ozeki run. Glad my kiss of death expired on Daiamami and he got 10 wins. Kotoshugiku showing some grit with some nice wins second half. Kagayaki has his moments, but does enough to stick around the top division. Aminishiki KK ..nice. 

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1 hour ago, Amamaniac said:

So Takanoiwa eked out his KK against Gagamaru on the senshuraku.  I guess that means he has started his comeback.  Having been bashed on the head with a beer bottle remote control, and having missed two tournaments, his return to the ring was a little shaky, but he rallied in the end (i.e., three straight wins).  Chances are that he will return to the Top Division sometime this year.  I'm dying to see if and when he gets to go up against Hakuho again and defend his perfect record!

He will be kyujo from the Haru Jungyo. "We will carefully watch how he does," said Takanohana, so I'm not sure about that..

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…That torinaoshi was a farce. Takayasu’s left foot clearly turned over and touched down way before Kakuryū could’ve possibly been out.

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20 minutes ago, ALAKTORN said:

…That torinaoshi was a farce. Takayasu’s left foot clearly turned over and touched down way before Kakuryū could’ve possibly been out.

It seems like they don't care about the "nothing but the bottom of the foot can touch the surface of the dohyo" rule (if it can be still be called a rule at this point). 

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What was Takayasu so angry about during the re-do that caused him to slap Kakuryu in the face like that? He looked like a man possessed in a way that I’m not used to seeing out of him. It was pretty excellent if you ask me!

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1 minute ago, Michishige said:

What was Takayasu so angry about during the re-do that caused him to slap Kakuryu in the face like that? He looked like a man possessed in a way that I’m not used to seeing out of him. It was pretty excellent if you ask me!

Maybe he bought the bout and Kakuryu didn't let up enough in the first go.

 

Just joking.

 

Maybe.

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1 hour ago, ALAKTORN said:

…That torinaoshi was a farce. Takayasu’s left foot clearly turned over and touched down way before Kakuryū could’ve possibly been out.

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It's hard to tell here if it's Takayasu's front or top of toe here. To me it looks like front which is fine. Even if it is the top Kakuryu's heel is clearly out. A torinaoshi was the minimum they should have done. A Takayasu win here could be justified. There is no way IMO that this is a clear Kakuryu win.

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You should probably watch it on video rather than rely on random still images. Takayasu's nearly entire top of the foot was scraping along the dohyo for quite some distance prior to that moment.

Personally I was fine with the torinaoshi because I prefer high-profile bouts to have clear winners, but that was a Kakuryu victory any day if they actually applied the rules strictly.

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17 minutes ago, Rocks said:

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It's hard to tell here if it's Takayasu's front or top of toe here. To me it looks like front which is fine. Even if it is the top Kakuryu's heel is clearly out. A torinaoshi was the minimum they should have done. A Takayasu win here could be justified. There is no way IMO that this is a clear Kakuryu win.

I don't think Kakuryu's heel is "clearly" out in that photo.  It could easily just be hovering over the sand, with all the weight on the tawara.

 

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