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Akinomaki    16,000
1 hour ago, maorencze said:

I hope they are not, such animal abuse is hard to imagine Carrying men heavier than you? Too much to expect from an animal :-D

The Mongolians on a visit home often get shown  riding their horses - I hope Ichinojo no longer tries that

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orandashoho    433
9 minutes ago, maorencze said:
2 hours ago, orandashoho said:

 (What about horses, are rikishi allowed to ride?)

I hope they are not, such animal abuse is hard to imagine Carrying men heavier than you? Too much to expect from an animal :-D

Indeed, as I suspect that rikishi get a stern talking-to -- besides risking life and limb in keiko and on the dohyo, they should not endanger themselves in any other activity :-D

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Benihana    547
1 hour ago, orandashoho said:

Indeed, as I suspect that rikishi get a stern talking-to -- besides risking life and limb in keiko and on the dohyo, they should not endanger themselves in any other activity :-D

So...no more karaoke? :'-(

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WAKATAKE    863

Well that's one extra sekitori slot guaranteeing to open up.

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Suwihuto    48
3 hours ago, WAKATAKE said:

Well that's one extra sekitori slot guaranteeing to open up.

Judging by his performances so far this Basho, I think that was going to happen anyway.

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Yukiarashi    126

Here we go again....

We had Harumafuji, Inosuke, and now "Osunacrashi"

What are the chances that rikishi aren't allowed to drive, yet every time one does get caught he's in an accident? Toki, Kyokutenho, and now our beloved Sandstorm as well. There's got to be more driving going on or it's just psychological at this point. This doesn't look good for him right now though it was just a minor accident. I highly doubt intai but definitely suspension and the length might be longer if he was indeed lying about what happened. He has been struggling with injuries but this might have been playing in his head too during his 1-7 start. I hope they wouldn't punish him at all if his story was true and he was driving his wife after the accident. But why not say anything then and why did it have to be "discovered" for? Why were the damages paid behind the curtains? It would be sad if there was any ill-intent or naughty behavior here as nice as a guy as he seems to be, but same can be said for Kyokutenho. I hope this turns out okay for him and he can come back soon, if Toki kills someone and gets a one-basho suspension then I highly doubt intai, unless there's legal problems.

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Yukiarashi    126
15 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

Let's not forget that Otake is on the board of trustees, so this is especially awkward as far as the NSK's complex web of responsibilities and supervisory roles goes. Probably a good idea that they're planning to put ex-oyakata on the board after the upcoming elections...

What isn't awkward in sumo right now?

Takanohana vs. Kyokai, Takanohana fans vs. Kyokai, Hakuho vs. Everybody, Inosuke's resignation suspension, Takanoiwa, Elections, karaoke machines, ice picks, fax machines, elbows, Kisenosato, jungyo, even scarfs. 

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Gernobono    188
1 hour ago, Yukiarashi said:

What isn't awkward in sumo right now?

I like Chiyomaru who always seems to smile broadly on pics

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rhyen    807
3 hours ago, Gernobono said:

I like Chiyomaru who always seems to smile broadly on pics

and is a frequent target of Osunaarashi's prank.

I sometimes wonder if Chiyomaru deliberately dropped to Juryo to avoid being in the same division as Osu.

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Akinomaki    16,000

The Nagano police is about to file charges for suspicion of driving without license. Osunaarashi now has told them that he was the driver - and the surveillance camera showed him in the driver's seat. He told the NSK that he tried to protect his pregnant wife and only pretended he was the driver, which his lawyer had also told the police at first.

http://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2018012200973&g=soc

http://www.daily.co.jp/society/national/2018/01/22/0010919868.shtml

The NSK will decide how to deal with him after the police investigation. Kasugano: "Only the police knows if Osunaarashi's claims are correct. Without knowing the truth, we only have one way traffic when we ask the man himself."

http://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2018012201196&g=spo

The kyujo announce was simply "Osunaarashi is kyujo as of today", it is usually with "because of ..." - but not this time.

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/20180122-OYT1T50064.html

NHK told he is kyujo because he is in no condition to do sumo.

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Akinomaki    16,000

The ban on driving started after Mitoizumi and Kurama one after the other had traffic accidents in 1985.

The list of accidents - and the NSK penalties:

850503 Mitoizumi crashing into 2 halting cars

850623 Kurama crashing into 2 cars who waited at a traffic light

99.01 Akinoshima rammed a motorcycle - stern warning

0012 Touki with his car killed a woman that went across a pedestrian crossing - 2 months of house arrest, he withdrew from the Hatsu basho, 20% pay reduction for 3 months, the oyakata got demoted 2 ranks

070428 Kyokutenho had a rear-end collision and was actually for the first time ever really suspended for the 15 days of the Natsu basho, plus 30% pay reduction for 3 months for both him and his oyakata.

After that in June 2007 the rikishi-kai demanded the lifting of the ban, Kitanoumi refused.

Oyakata can drive. Obtaining a driver's license is allowed for rikishi, because it would be a disadvantage for jobs after intai if they can't drive.

http://www.hochi.co.jp/sports/sumo/20180122-OHT1T50056.html

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Rob S.    34
3 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

He told the NSK that he tried to protect his pregnant wife and only pretended he was the driver, which his lawyer had also told the police at first. 

I'm curious about his original fabricated story and what exactly  was he protecting his pregnant wife from?

Possible stress or something else?

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Kintamayama    19,945
4 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

NHK told he is kyujo because he is in no condition to do sumo.

The NHK announcer actually told the whole story, adding that Ootake Oyakata said he was in no condition to do sumo.

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Asojima    1,815
41 minutes ago, Rob S. said:

I'm curious about his original fabricated story and what exactly  was he protecting his pregnant wife from?

Possible stress or something else?

Speculation:  He was in serious career peril if caught driving.  His ?unlicensed? wife was in legal trouble if caught driving.  Conundrum:  Which was worse.  Decision:  They were in better shape if the wife was driving. Concoct a story that they switched seats to avoid a legal problem for her.

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Yukiarashi    126

If that was the case why would either one of them even risk driving? I agree with what your saying, I'm saying why were they even in a car to begin with. Either of these would explain the paid damages too. Akinomaki's news post seems to suggest he lied and was the driver after all. The only precedent I can think of if there's anything more to this story is future Shohozan's gambling two basho suspension for not admitting to it.

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Asashosakari    9,839
36 minutes ago, Asojima said:

Speculation:  He was in serious career peril if caught driving.  His ?unlicensed? wife was in legal trouble if caught driving.  Conundrum:  Which was worse.  Decision:  They were in better shape if the wife was driving. Concoct a story that they switched seats to avoid a legal problem for her.

The problem is that such a storyline is not very believable due to the bolded part, too. Both driving and successfully pretending to have driven would have the same negative consequences.

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Yukiarashi    126
9 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

The problem is that such a storyline is not very believable due to the bolded part, too. Both driving and successfully pretending to have driven would have the same negative consequences.

His thinking was probably that the kyokai would be a bit lenient if he took over driving because she was distressed just temporarily. He probably went with this story thinking this was the most un-screwed he could probably be. Only problem is then she might have been driving illegally. Plus he seems to have already admitted to himself driving.

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Asojima    1,815
9 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

The problem is that such a storyline is not very believable due to the bolded part, too. Both driving and successfully pretending to have driven would have the same negative consequences.

But he was not pretending to have driven.  He was pretending to change seats.  That puts his wife in the driver's seat.

 

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Rocks    672

I heard the first mechanic to see the car said it was fine to drive so there is no reason to punish Osunaarashi. I think the mechanic even gave a certificate.

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Yamanashi    110
1 minute ago, Rocks said:

I heard the first mechanic to see the car said it was fine to drive so there is no reason to punish Osunaarashi. I think the mechanic even gave a certificate.

I'd give you a "Ha Ha" emoji, but I don't want to encourage you ...

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Asashosakari    9,839
36 minutes ago, Asojima said:

But he was not pretending to have driven.  He was pretending to change seats.  That puts his wife in the driver's seat.

Yes, but there must be a logical rationale behind that, too, to make the story believable - and there isn't if he doesn't have a valid driver's license at all. Somebody like that shouldn't be found at the wheel of a vehicle in public traffic under any circumstances, not to mention that as a rikishi he shouldn't either. In the storyline, he took over the driver's position after the accident to achieve...what exactly? So what I meant is that the "avoiding legal issues for his wife" part only works if his intention was in fact to successfully pretend that he was the driver. There are two different levels of pretending here, and the problem is that level 1 is needed as the foundation for level 2, but the reasoning behind 1 also contradicts the reasoning behind 2.

I'm not doubting that he told that story to the police, I'm just puzzled what he was hoping to achieve with it because it just makes no sense whatsoever.

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Asojima    1,815

He was caught behind the wheel.  His story is that he was NOT driving, and that he changed seats with his wife because she is not allowed to drive, and he wanted to "protect" her.  This story minimizes his culpability with the Kyokai and the media vultures.  It also places culpability on the innocent wife that he was supposedly trying to "protect".  Her taking the fall is the lesser of two evils. It was not a well thought out plan, but it was the best they could come up with on the spur of the moment.  Witnesses can be a bitch.

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WAKATAKE    863

The legal consequences for them could be more serious than just kyujo and suspension. If Immigration decides its serious enough it could step in and the young couple could be sent packing back to Egypt.

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