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Persistence Watch - 2018 edition

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1 hour ago, Gurowake said:

That's just incredibly unfair.  The whole idea of these guys saving themselves one basho on the way back up at the cost of flattening some 0-6 rikishi just isn't appealing to me.

They don't have to win to save themselves, and since they likely are still in bad shape, it is fair to pair them against the weakest.

It would be fair though to call Hattorizakura to maezumo once a year and give him a better chance to get his 2nd career win.

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23 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

Both Nakano and Kotoimagawa had a loss followed by a win to find themselves 3-3 now.

Unfortunately no luck for them, they finish the basho 3-4.

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On 4/13/2018 at 18:42, Asojima said:

Most commonly occurs when there is an odd number of rikishi available for day 13.  One of the lowest ranked jonokuchi usually gets stuck with an 8th match on day 14 or 15. 

Incidentally, there was an "8th" bout in jonokuchi this time as well, but they decided to give it to late joiner Kitasatsuma.

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The final Natsu standings:
 

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 16 Jonokuchi 34 East Jonokuchi 18 1-110-1 0.009 0-7 0-7
Sawanofuji Isegahama Haru 2016 13 Jonokuchi 1 West Jonidan 110 20-72 0.217 2-5 2-5
Satoiazuma Tamanoi Kyushu 2014 8 Jonokuchi 6 East Jonidan 100 18-38-7 0.321 2-5 3-4
Chiyotaiko Kokonoe Haru 2017 6 Jonidan 112 East Jonidan 104 20-29 0.408 2-5 5-2
Kotoimagawa Sadogatake Haru 2017 7 Jonidan 110 West Jonidan 110 15-34 0.306 3-4 3-4
Hayasaka Tokitsukaze Haru 2017 7 Jonokuchi 1 East Jonokuchi 1 14-35 0.286 3-4 2-5
Sekizukayama Tagonoura Haru 2017 7 Jonokuchi 7 West Jonokuchi 6 13-37 0.260 1-6 3-4
Koreyasu Asakayama Natsu 2017 5 Jonidan 111 East Jonidan 111 18-24 0.429 3-4 4-3
Nakano Miyagino Haru 2017 5 Jonokuchi 4 West Jonokuchi 4 15-20-7 0.429 3-4 3-4
Houn Minezaki Aki 2017 4 Jonokuchi 8 East Jonokuchi 8 3-26 0.103 1-6 0-7


Our members largely played to type this basho - of the four top KK contenders mentioned last basho, two are now in fact kachikoshi for the first time, and the other two (Kotoimagawa and Nakano) were good enough to at least compete in KK deciders once again, even though they weren't successful. It's Kotoimagawa's third straight 3-4 record, while Nakano has been 3-4 in all of his five makekoshi.

Long-time absent Satoiazuma was 3-4 in his very first basho, and following six 2-5 records he is now back to that minor milestone again. He's arguably our third-best candidate for the near future now. Of course, at 22 years he is also by far our oldest member - or at least he was until the arrival of Houn who's another two months older and already turned 23 during the basho. For the first time since his debut he didn't face Hattorizakura during a tournament and consequently both of them ended up with 0-7 records this time around.


No new members for Nagoya, and there also won't be any for Aki - Tagomaru, the only rikishi who entered Natsu basho on 2 MK, continues to be banzuke-gai, and the three rikishi who had started their careers with a makekoshi in March managed to KK in Natsu to get off the watch list early. Consequently we can already shift our focus to the Haru shindeshi class: 42 rikishi had their banzuke debut this basho, of whom 23 achieved a KK right away, 18 went makekoshi (including two who dropped out mid-basho), and one withdrew from his first scheduled bout and ended up on the intai list.

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Our persisters through nakabi of Nagoya basho: One grand highlight but the rest ain't so great.
 

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 16 Jonokuchi 34 East Jonokuchi 18 2-113-1 0.017 0-7 1-3
Sawanofuji Isegahama Haru 2016 14 Jonokuchi 12 West Jonidan 110 20-76 0.208 2-5 0-4
Satoiazuma Tamanoi Kyushu 2014 8 Jonokuchi 9 West Jonidan 100 20-40-7 0.333 3-4 2-2
Kotoimagawa Sadogatake Haru 2017 7 Jonokuchi 5 East Jonidan 110 17-36 0.321 3-4 2-2
Sekizukayama Tagonoura Haru 2017 7 Jonokuchi 10 West Jonokuchi 6 15-39 0.278 3-4 2-2
Hayasaka Tokitsukaze Haru 2017 7 Jonokuchi 12 East Jonokuchi 1 15-38 0.283 2-5 1-3
Takemaru Miyagino Haru 2017 5 Jonokuchi 8 West Jonokuchi 4 19-20-7 0.487 3-4 4-0
Houn Minezaki Aki 2017 5 Jonokuchi 33 East Jonokuchi 8 3-30 0.091 0-7 0-4


Takemaru is the newly renamed Nakano, and the kaimei has brought immediate dividends in the form of the rarest of things, a persister 4-0 start. Granted, he's almost certainly our strongest current club member anyway, what with him scoring straight 3-4's in all his five career appearances, but four wins in a row is impressive any day.

Of course, it does look like he may remain the only one to graduate this basho as kachikoshi from 2-2 typically proves to be a major uphill battle (let alone from 1-3).

Hattorizakura's second-ever win was already widely discussed elsewhere, so I won't belabour that point. Congrats, I guess. :-) He's not escaping the match-up with Houn though despite the record difference - they've met three times in the last four tournaments (only missing out in Natsu), and with Houn quite possibly now the second-worst active rikishi, the opportunity for another win is there. (Or was there, as the match has already taken place at the time of writing, but I haven't seen the result yet.) Of course, Houn did win the other three meetings...

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On ‎15‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 13:34, Yubinhaad said:

An unprecedented 50th consecutive loss for Hattorizakura. At least he was moving forwards, Kotoimagawa might provide a rare chance for a win in future.


Many apologies and congratulations to Kotoimagawa, whose steady improvement has led to a four-bout winning streak and his first career kachi-koshi! (Clappingwildly...)

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Catching up with the finalized results from Nagoya:
 

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 17 Jonokuchi 34 East Jonokuchi 18 2-116-1 0.017 0-7 1-6
Sawanofuji Isegahama Haru 2016 14 Jonokuchi 12 West Jonidan 110 23-76 0.232 2-5 3-4
Satoiazuma Tamanoi Kyushu 2014 9 Jonokuchi 9 West Jonidan 100 21-42-7 0.333 3-4 3-4
Kotoimagawa Sadogatake Haru 2017 7 Jonokuchi 5 East Jonidan 110 19-37 0.339 3-4 4-3
Sekizukayama Tagonoura Haru 2017 8 Jonokuchi 10 West Jonokuchi 6 15-42 0.263 3-4 2-5
Hayasaka Tokitsukaze Haru 2017 8 Jonokuchi 12 East Jonokuchi 1 16-40 0.286 2-5 2-5
Takemaru Miyagino Haru 2017 5 Jonokuchi 8 West Jonokuchi 4 19-23-7 0.452 3-4 4-3
Houn Minezaki Aki 2017 5 Jonokuchi 33 East Jonokuchi 8 5-31 0.139 0-7 2-5


As mentioned by Yubinhaad above, the basho ended up with a second graduate after all, belated congrats to Kotoimagawa! Takemaru wasn't able to secure further advancement and went winless during the second week, but the hardest work had already been done with his 4-0 start. The opposite pattern was achieved by Sawanofuji, who closed the basho on 3-4 from 0-4, his second-ever three-bout winning streak - previously 0-1 -> 3-1 -> 3-4 back in January, which was also his only other 3-4 record so far.

Houn ended up maintaining his spotless record against Hattorizakura, now 4-0 in their head-to-head, and clinched his very first 2-5 performance with that as well.

 

On ‎03‎/‎06‎/‎2018 at 19:53, Asashosakari said:

No new members for Nagoya, and there also won't be any for Aki - Tagomaru, the only rikishi who entered Natsu basho on 2 MK, continues to be banzuke-gai, and the three rikishi who had started their careers with a makekoshi in March managed to KK in Natsu to get off the watch list early. Consequently we can already shift our focus to the Haru shindeshi class: 42 rikishi had their banzuke debut this basho, of whom 23 achieved a KK right away, 18 went makekoshi (including two who dropped out mid-basho), and one withdrew from his first scheduled bout and ended up on the intai list.

Just 7 Nagoya kachikoshi among the 18 remaining newcomers from the Haru basho class. One of them was absent from the basho and was registered as intai afterwards, while two others dropped to banzuke-gai status. That leaves 8 fending for their first kachikoshi in Aki basho after back-to-back MK.

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And the first-week Aki results for our 6 continuing persistence members, the smallest club representation since Nagoya 2014:
 

Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho
Hattorizakura Shikihide Aki 2015 18 Jonokuchi 27 East Jonokuchi 18 2-120-1 0.016 1-6 0-4
Sawanofuji Isegahama Haru 2016 14 Jonokuchi 14 East Jonidan 110 24-79 0.233 3-4 1-3
Satoiazuma Tamanoi Kyushu 2014 9 Jonokuchi 13 East Jonidan 100 23-44-7 0.343 3-4 2-2
Sekizukayama Tagonoura Haru 2017 8 Jonokuchi 19 East Jonokuchi 6 17-44 0.279 2-5 2-2
Hayasaka Tokitsukaze Haru 2017 8 Jonokuchi 19 West Jonokuchi 1 18-42 0.300 2-5 2-2
Houn Minezaki Aki 2017 5 Jonokuchi 25 East Jonokuchi 8 7-33 0.175 2-5 2-2


Sadly, Hattorizakura's third full makekoshi year is already in the books early, and Sawanofuji will need to go 3-0 in week two again to have a shot at kachikoshi. Satoiazuma closed the first week at 2-2 for the third straight basho, and hopefully he'll manage to finish better than 3-4 this time - in fact, just getting a KK opportunity would be an improvement, as the last two basho went straight from 2-2 to 2-4.

By contrast, this is the first time ever that Hayasaka and Houn have managed two wins by Day 8. Sekizukayama did it twice before (including last basho), but dropped right down to 2-5 both times.

Lastly, a quick overview of our 8 prospective applicants from the Haru class - one of them has already secured his ticket into this thread at this time, four others are close at 1-3.

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