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Yatagarasu    48

I haven't banzuke'd my list, and stress that it's my heart list, rather than the rikishi who I necessarily think are most skilled or who I think are most likely to succeed.  


On my heart list:

Ura - I love this little guy. Works hard to overcome his height disadvantage to compensate in other ways and I like that he's pushing the boundaries of what is 'traditional' sumo.  I love the fact that he is an actual gymnast; some early footage of him is incredible and, until his injury, could still perform a backflip.  While he's top of my heart list, I'm not so biased that I can't see his technical flaws. Even if he was fully fit I doubt he'd go beyond sekiwake but he is also now vulnerable due to his injury. His favourite moves also became a little predictable in his last two basho, which is in part how he busted and re-busted the ACL in the first place.  I hope he has the patience (and lack of pressure) to sit out until fully recovered.

Yoshikaze - the embodiment of fighting spirit.  I heart him a lot.  Despite his age or the rank of whoever is in front of him, he gives it everything in every single match.  If you can still recognise him on day 8 he isn't trying hard enough!  I don't think he'll go to ozeki but he's fun to watch and gives solid restaurant recommendations on Twitter. 

Ikioi - his elbow injury has been a problem lately, and I doubt he'd ever make sannyaku, but he's a likeable chap, very funny and always tries hard.  

Tamawashi - got to admire any rikishi who likes to spend his spare time refining his baking skills!  

Hokutofuji - I personally like his style and seems to be bright too, so has a wisdom beyond his years.  He's one of the few rikishi I believe when he does the whole humble modesty thing in interviews and is very likeable.  I hope he does well.

Abi - he's been impressive, consistent and clean.  I hope he storms makuuchi.

Honourable mention to sly old dog Aminishiki.  He used to annoy me but I admire his bounce back to makuuchi, particularly on account of his age.  Credit where it's due.  


On my hit list:

Takayasu - I actually really hate this guy after I saw footage of him in a keiko session.  While I accept that keiko is no picnic, even for makuuchi, and there has to be some 'tough love' to strengthen the mental and physical stamina of the young ones, he revealed a streak of cruelty towards a boy that I thoroughly disliked.  He is the only rikishi that I actively like to see lose.  

Hakuhou - I fully recognise that he is a monster record breaker.  But what can I say?  I just don't like him.  He seems arrogant, petulant and unpleasant and I hate him overusing slapping.  

Takakeisho - again, I recognise he has had some good results, but I just don't like him.  

Goeido - Henka city.  I know it's a legal move, but to me it's unimaginative and lazy for his rank and I don't respect that.  He'd go up in my estimations if he improved his repertoire.

Takagenji - genuinely surprised that others here dislike him too!

Chiyonokuni - Admittedly his place on this list is a joke.  I don't actually dislike him, but every time I see him I think of the documentary about him and his wife, in which his wife complained that he regularly floods their bathroom by getting into a full bathtub.  He even did a demonstration for the show - 'cascades' would be an understatement!  Don't do that, dude!  (Laughing...)

Honourable mention for Chiyoshouma, whose matta shenanigans and gratuitous slapping last basho really got under my skin.  Ishiura also annoys me - there just seems to be a swagger to him that I don't like; I didn't feel sorry for him when he got demoted to juryo as I think makuuchi had gone to his head a little. Maybe literally being knocked down a few pegs has been enriching for him for his return.  
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Gurowake    1,493
8 minutes ago, Yatagarasu said:
Takagenji - genuinely surprised that others here dislike him too!
 

He seems to have no respect for the system, and his oyakata doesn't seem too bothered to try to instill some in him.  And gee, another Takanohana-beya sekitori had something serious happen to him after showing a lack of respect.  At least Takakeisho seems fine.

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Benihana    499

Aminishiki will forever be my Yokozuna E of hearts. There will never be anyone like him again. Same for Yokozuna W Takamisakari.

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Morty    653

In no particular order, my favourites are Kotoshogiku, Yoshikaze, Kisenosato, Hakuho, Endo and Tochinoshin. I like all of these for different reasons, some for the individuals and some for their skills. For example, I accept that Hak engages in some questionable behaviour, but it is an absolute privilege to watch him do his thing. He is demonstrably so much better than everyone else. For Endo I like his balance, for Yosh and the Geek and Kise and Tochinoshin their heart and perseverence. 

I have a soft spot for Okinoumi and Chiyotairyu but both are extremely frustrating to watch because the often lose when they should win.

I used to not like Gagamaru much but after he cried when he got his kinboshi I started to like him and now I go for him all the time.

Of the new guys I really like Mitakeumi and Hokutofuji but I need to watch people for a while to really cement them as favourites. I suspect both of these will become my solid favourites before too long, and I am convinced Mitakeumi will be the next Ozeki.

There is no-one I actively dislike. I respect them all for getting  up there and their skills and the entertainment they provide. The last rikishi I actively disliked was Asa, because he was such a complete jerk.

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2 hours ago, Yatagarasu said:

On my hit list:

Takayasu - I actually really hate this guy after I saw footage of him in a keiko session.  While I accept that keiko is no picnic, even for makuuchi, and there has to be some 'tough love' to strengthen the mental and physical stamina of the young ones, he revealed a streak of cruelty towards a boy that I thoroughly disliked.  He is the only rikishi that I actively like to see lose. 

I think I know which footage you're talking about - I saw it too quite a while ago. Until then I used to like Takayasu because of the fierceness he displayed. Watching his behaviour changed my mind pretty thoroughly.

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chishafuwaku    344

My first enemy of each basho is the one that puts me out of the Chain Gang (Ranting...)

(In the last 10 bashos I was eliminated on the first day in 9 of them and in the other on the 2nd day)

ARE YOU LISTENING MITORYU ???

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Yatagarasu    48
10 hours ago, Katooshu said:

Anyone have a link to that footage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4oXH-auCMc

I guess posting this might risk a whole other debate on possible cultural differences and whether this is 'normal' for butsukari or whether it goes on behind closed doors when the cameras are off.  But dragging someone up off the floor by the chonmage (admittedly it wasn't Takayasu who did this but Takanoyama) is not cool to say the least.  

 

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Yatagarasu    48
18 hours ago, Benihana said:

Same for Yokozuna W Takamisakari.

His reaction after his kinboshi against Asashoryu was probably the only sporting occasion that has moved me to tears.  

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Joaoiyama    36

Don't think that Takayasu or Takanoyama were too rough on the guy, he couldn't push Takayasu 1 time without falling down so he was just tired and they put him under pressure, i do admit those axe kicks weren't needed but it's probably the same or less punishment than any other rikishi endured, butsukari is more mental than physical.

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Burajirotono    73
On 12/01/2018 at 18:09, Akinomaki said:

My top rank - favorite rikishi who stay there and won't get demoted - for a long time was occupied by Hakuho alone, since he became ozeki - I still remember having been the only enthusiastic Hakuho fan on the SML among the blue wolf pack as he was promoted to yokozuna. Ichinojo took the top spot from him as he stormed into makuuchi, and it has stayed this way ever since. 

Cool Akinomaki! Lets found a fanclub for Ichi! He dont deserves but lets do it anyway!

On 12/01/2018 at 21:56, sekitori said:

Endo's "mediocre" sumo is primarily a result of the stupidity (let's charitably call it ignorance) of his advisors concerning his torn ACL. They suggested that he avoid knee surgery which medical experts state is an absolute necessity to continue activities where extreme stress in placed on the knee. They instead opted for natural healing which would not drop him nearly as far down the banzuke as post-op rehab would. They were correct in that he didn't drop down as far as he would have if his knee was rehabbed after surgery. What they got completely wrong was that their extremely poor decision has caused his knee to be permanently weakened.  

Endo at one time was touted to be the next Japanese yokozuna. He's now nothing more than a decent mid-maegashira rikishi. He could still possibly reach sanyaku for a basho or two, but he will never be the outstanding rikishi that people once predicted he would be.

Endo doesn't bother me at all. I personally feel very sorry for him. On the other hand his advisors, who made a terrible decision which greatly harmed his once promising career, bother the hell out of me.

 

I guess you are right. So many great promises ruined by injuries. 

But i still dont like him.

On 12/01/2018 at 22:16, Kintamayama said:

Abi O Hakuhou

The rest are all my sons.

So....Kintamayama does not hate Hakuhou afterall! Could the youtube commenters be wrong???? The wisemen of youtube comments box? im shock!

Congrats for your sons. You really looks just like them all Papa Kinta.

On 13/01/2018 at 14:39, Gurowake said:

 Feel free to hate on me for totally missing the point of this thread, I'm used to it for things like this.

 

Sorry, i cant hate a godzilla´s fan. Who cares about thread points anyway?

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Kintamayama    19,519
3 hours ago, Burajirotono said:

 

So....Kintamayama does not hate Hakuhou afterall! Could the youtube commenters be wrong???? The wisemen of youtube comments box? im shock!

 

The "wise" men don't know everything. When you call out their favorite God for being a dick every now and then, they come to their own idiotic conclusions. Hakuhou has always been at the top of my list, but that doesn't mean that I have to like EVERYTHING he says or does all the time. What I do hate is blind patriotic support that can't take someone else's view. That's all it is, one person's view. Don't believe what you read. Anybody that knows me a bit knows I can't and don't hate any rikishi, not even Takagenji. Hate is not a word in my lexicon. It's raining again.

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Bumpkin    276
12 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

Anybody that knows me a bit knows I can't and don't hate any rikishi, not even Takagenji. Hate is not a word in my lexicon.

Wise words from a wise man.

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