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Harumafuji scandal thread- part 2

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Kintamayama    19,556
1 hour ago, yorikiried by fate said:

You got me guys. So I will finally book the cryogenic procedure I've been contemplating for a while and hopefully wake up in a world where everyone who reflects about "our ways" enters a disbelieving (no offense intended, nevertheless quite welcome) laughing frenzy.

I think I might be offended if I understood some of the words..

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Kintamayama    19,556

The Takanohana beya homepage is saying Takanoiwa will be back in March. "Today, I would like to apologize deeply to everyone for the bother the whole affair with my deshi Takanoiwa has caused. I will now report on his situation, as he is kyujo from this basho. The diagnosis is head injury, scalp scar ,. right mastoid inflammation. Since in sumo, strong head contact is unavoidable, there is a risk of Chronic subdural hematoma development. The doctor has demanded no "head contact" for three months, so it was inevitable that he sit Hatsu basho out. He has suffered serious damage and has been worried about the possible consequences, and has been undergoing many treatments lately.. At present, he is finally able to move his body  and is slowly rehabilitating himself. I have decided he will be entering March, but will be consulting the doctor as to Takanoiwa's readiness, mind and soul. He is still young and his future is before him. For that to happen, he needs to put all this behind him. To do that, he needs to overcome physical and mental anxieties and fear of the aftereffects from all this. I will lead him without letting up. This will be his way of thanking all the people who have worried about him. I hope everyone will support him warmly in the future."  Takanohana. 

Some more stuff about seriousness of life on the dohyo etc., but too many words I never heard..

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Akinomaki    15,452

I had mentioned it in the thread that's now in oblivion:

The lawyers of Yomiuri TV and the NSK are presently discussing about the letter of protest the NSK sent to the TV company to complain about biased reporting in the Miyane-ya wide show from Dec. 1st, presenting as news the hearsay that Takanohana had told Hakkaku about it before he went to the police. The NSK had demanded an apology and a correction of the broadcast.

The discussion aims to decide if it was a clear violation of broadcast ethics.

http://www.daily.co.jp/gossip/2018/01/17/0010905764.shtml

Meanwhile Yukan Fuji published a correction http://www.zakzak.co.jp/spo/news/180118/spo1801180009-n1.html

for an article on the 16th (on page 1)  http://www.zakzak.co.jp/spo/news/180117/spo1801170004-n1.html  - about a gang of 4 in the NSK spo1801170004-m1.jpg

having ordered to conceal the events - the NSK had claimed on the day that there is no such truth and gave some more comments.

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Yatagarasu    54

I just came here to have a little sigh and say that, as exciting as this basho is, I do miss seeing Harumafuji.  I found his sumo beautiful and I miss the way he used to crouch forward really low during his shikiri and do his little wiggle.  

SIGH!

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I would be genuinly interested in this forum's members take on Mike Wesemann's comments concerning the whole Takanoiwa incident over at The Dark Side. Particularly the timeline and the alleged photographic evidence concerning Takanoiwa's physical state at certain dates makes me have deep thoughts.

I dare you to read it and re-enter here with your own knowledge. Any comment would be appreciated. I promise to you that yaocho is only mentioned once or twice...

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Rocks    584

My comment? Who says Takanoiwa had visible injuries to his face from Harumafuji? Anything in the later pic of his face, such as the bump on his forehead could come from anything. The suggestion they are "fighting" at exhibition events is ridiculous. The bout in the video shows that and actually might lend weight to the idea Takanoiwa is hurt even then. Takanoiwa bends his head side to side and blinks as he reaches the extent of the movement left and right. Are these winces of pain caused by moving his aching head around? The following bout is a joke even by exhibition standards. Takanoiwa does just enough to guide Ikioi out of the ring. Putting little effort out for the fans even to do the usual "exhibition".  As far as the head cut the mage can easily be made to cover that. Takanoiw was stated to be attempting to hide what happened  As far as the physical evidence I don't see anything which conclusively contradicts the idea Takanoiwa was hurt from the start.

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Burajirotono    75

Man, all this case stinks bad!

Is hard to have a clean vision of the incident here in the oposite side of the globe, and, as a guy who did some journalism i can not be desonest and jump in to conclusions...But some facts are screaming: Takanohana conduced the case in a very shady way. This is a fact. I dont see the world as a place with totaly bad and totaly good men...Like Hak is the hero and Taka the demon or vice versa, but we sure have a backstage war ongoing. Taka plays for Harumafuji´s intai, he knowed that in public´s mind (even, maybe, in a subconcious level) he is the guy who breaked the japanese zuna...So it was a ball ready to be kicked as we say here in Brasil. This is also a fact. Hak is getting older and the (dai) yokozuna spot will be open, vultures are smelling rotten flesh...

Latet anguis in herba.

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Benevolance    1,064

No offense intended, but I think it reads like an internet conspiracy theory...it clearly sets up Takanohana as the story's villain in the first paragraph, draws false equivalencies along the way, then centers the discussion on the brave journalist fighting against an obviously rigged system, like the yaocho that only he can see, which is apparently proof enough of his correctness. Also, I didn't see a publication date, but I'm pretty sure that the NSK *had* visited Takanoiwa in the hospital prior to giving out their special "no demotion" dispensation mentioned in the article, which further calls into question the accuracy of the reporting. I think the kindest way to look at it is as third rate journalism.

But I found his assertion that Takanohana was removed from jungyo duties at the specific request of *rikishi* interesting. I don't recall that being brought up on the forums or news reports. I doubt the veracity of the statement, given its author and lack of citations, but could someone on the forums confirm or deny that? 

 

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Akinomaki    15,452
6 hours ago, Benevolance said:

I found his assertion that Takanohana was removed from jungyo duties at the specific request of *rikishi* interesting. I don't recall that being brought up on the forums or news reports. I doubt the veracity of the statement, given its author and lack of citations, but could someone on the forums confirm or deny that? 

Discussed in oblivion that Hakuho was reported as having been the spokesman of the rikishi which saw it at as impossible to take part in the jungyo with Taka as the head of it. This is no direct request, but to see it like this is permissible.

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Thanks for your opinions. But again: What about Takanoiwa's appearance?  Did any other sources (that I don't know and probably cannot read) point out that he looked quite normal right after the incident? (I don't buy Rocks' view on that.) Either Mike has his images' dates wrong, or something about the whole architecture of the case is very wrong.

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ALAKTORN    262
1 hour ago, yorikiried by fate said:

Thanks for your opinions. But again: What about Takanoiwa's appearance?  Did any other sources (that I don't know and probably cannot read) point out that he looked quite normal right after the incident? (I don't buy Rocks' view on that.) Either Mike has his images' dates wrong, or something about the whole architecture of the case is very wrong.

No one is denying that Takanoiwa looked healthy.

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