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Ganzohnesushi    149

Randomitsuki, where are you? This thread usually is the annual highlight (at least for me) and I guess I'm not the only one who is sadly missing it...

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Pandaazuma    736
46 minutes ago, Ganzohnesushi said:

Randomitsuki, where are you? This thread usually is the annual highlight (at least for me) and I guess I'm not the only one who is sadly missing it...

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He's probably waiting for all the results to come in. Salarycap is still not updated.

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Randomitsuki    1,241

Yep, there is little sense to do the update when two games do not show any results (though UDH has been updated, I see). In any case, I have collected all Top 10 data from all games on both days, so nothing gets lost - just delayed.

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Pandaazuma    736

Not sure I want to see the results this time. Aoiyama was my top-priority pick and he's out, screwing me in several games (even those with a substitute) where I started very well.  And the dailies are already a dead loss with all the uncertainty this basho...only Hakuho can be trusted, so it's almost as bad a lottery as last basho.  I'll be lucky to get ten points.

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Ganzohnesushi    149
2 hours ago, Pandaazuma said:

Not sure I want to see the results this time. Aoiyama was my top-priority pick and he's out, screwing me in several games...

You're not alone   (Shakinghead...)

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Randomitsuki    1,241

Ok, topic and topic title were already created by Ganzohnesushi, so I can start the longish round of updates, starting with

Day 1:

Top 5 in Oracle (projected):

1. Jejima 649

2. Senkoho 648

3. chishafuwaku 647

4. Frinkanohana 645

5. Tsuchinoninjin 644

5. Sakura 644

 

Top 5 in Salarycap Sumo (I might have made some errors, as I entered the data manually)

1. Frinkanohana 156

2. Senkoho 144

3. pandaazuma 132

4. ayagawa 129

5. GONZABUROW 126

5. Ruziklao 126

 

Masters Race:

Tsuchinoninjin (52.32) takes the early lead for the Kyushu Masters, being the frontunner in Odd Sumo and RotoSumo while featuring quite prominently in Ozumo Bingo, Oracle, and Hoshitori Game. However, veteran Frinkanohana (50.14) was on the rookie's heels. The Frink led in Salarycap Sumo and co-led in Tippspiel. Pandaazuma (38.04) was a distant third. Other players north of 30 points were Ruziklao (34.80), Konosato (34.73), Jejima (31.38), and Senkoho (30.28)

Championship Race:

As for the World Championship, I track all players who were at 100+ Masters points before shonichi (but after GTB results were in). Moreover, all those from further down who make it into in the Top 10 at any points during the basho, will receive extra tracking.

In the Championship standings, the quest for numero uno is totally boring. Pandaazuma (284.96) will do it again. The only crucial question is whether he will achieve the goal of 300 points which he set for himself last year. Looked promising after day 1. In case that you achieve it, Simon, here are some suggestions for next year: 1) achieving 450 points; 2) winning at least five Green Mawashi; 3) Having a 100+ points lead over the runner-up from March onwards. ;-)

There is also not much of a race with regard to second place right now. Even though Susanoo (198.92) was projected at 0.00 for Kyushu, he still has a huge leading margin over the rest of the field.

Gurowake (163.63) and Ganzohnesushi (168.06) were in an extremely tight race for third place before shonichi. The latter overtook the former after Day 1. Asashosakari (162.65) in fifth had a pretty good start and gained some ground against the Kraken and the Fishless Man (sorry for the "Game of Thrones" in-jokes). Taka (157.43) in sixth place had an even better start, turning the battle for third place into a four-way race for now. 

Kitakachiyama (146.36) remains in seventh place, currently in a league of his own. Norizo (130.56), Gonzaburow (128.32) and Konosato (127.33, coming from double digit territory) round out the top 10.

You can see the standings of tracked players in all its graphic glory by clicking on the following link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EYykhGFuVsybTsjjnoIvzeo_YA8gfSaS/view?usp=sharing

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Randomitsuki    1,241

And here goes

Day 2:

Projected Top 5 in Oracle:

1. Senkoho 642

2. Jejima 641

3. chishafuwaku 639

4. suwihito 638

5. Frinkanohana 637

 

Likely Top 5 in Salarycap:

1. Ruziklao 234

2. Frinkanohana 228

2. Senkoho 228

4. Kotononami 222

5. Gonzaburow 216

 

Masters Race:

Senkoho soared to the top of the standings (57.71). This moved him also into the Top 10 of the World Championship, thus making him eligible for tracking. He led in Oracle, co-led in Tippspiel and Quad. Konosato (53.28) continued his impressive basho start, and out of left field came Kotononami (50.46). Other notable entires were Ruziklao (46.53), Asashosakari (45.31), Frinkanohana (42.46), and Pandaazuma (31.29). Tsuchinoninjin who led after shonichi dropped to 21.58 points for 15th place. Volatility, baby!

 

Championship Race:

Pandaazuma (278.21) registered a slight dip. Susanoo (212.05) sprang to life, but this is most certainly too little, too late. With another whopping increase, Asashosakari (184.42) jumped from fifth to third. Gurowake (171.29) remained in fourth place, being overtaken by Asashoskari while overtaking Ganzohnesushi (166.19). Taka (156.81) cooled off a bit and remained in sixth place.

Konosato's impressive rise brought him as far as seventh place (145.88), enough to overtake Kitakachiyama (143.63), Basho leader Senkoho (138.73) moved into 9th place while Choshu-yuki (135.04) overtook hubbie Norizo and compatriot Gonzaburow for 10th place.

 

Graphical standings:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N4oLfsAQcx3IZ32VZE3JHc8wNpX9PNAv/view?usp=sharing  

I haven't collected any Day 3 data so far, being busy with setting up Salarycap Sumo. So it might take a while (depending on availability of data, it can take until tomorrow, of course).

By the way, does anybody know if kinboshi and ginboshi via fusensho count in Salarycap Sumo???

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Randomitsuki    1,241

Hm, four hours of tireless work, and all I got so far is two likes? You philistines! :-P

Anyway, with the TTT standings down (seemingly all day), I decided to provide you with the current standings based on all other games plus TTT from day 2. So, drum roll for

Day 3:

Projected Oracle Top 5:

1. Senkoho 635

2. chishafuwaku 634

2. Frinkanohana 634

2. Jejima 634

5. suwihito 633

 

Provisional Salarycap Top 5:

1. Frinkanohana 393

2. Senkoho 363

3. ayagawa 351

4. Gibuten 321

4. Gonzaburow 321

4. Kotononami 321

4. Sebunshu 321

 

Masters Race:

Yesterday, he came into third place out of nowhere. Today, Kotononami (57.71) moves into the top spot. He leads in Norizo Cup and UDH, and shares the lead in Sumo Game. Terarno (50.61) completes what now looks like a French domination in Kyushu Basho.  But Frinkanohana (50.52) and yesterday's frontrunner Senkoho (50.00) are a sweet nothingness behind. The 30+ points crew further consists of Gonzaburow (43.91), Konosato (38.55), Asashosakari (37.97), Sebunshu (35.69), and Andoreasu (31.44).

 

Championship Race:

The top three celebrated a collective meh today. Pandaazuma (259.66), Susanoo (209.38) and Asashosakari (177.08) all lost considerable ground. Promptly, the latter has inadvertently re-opened the battle for 3rd place, with both Gurowake (175.32) and Ganzohnesushi (171.85) advancing. Taka in sixth place (160.93) is currently the calm anchor between the battle for 3rd place and the battle for 7th place.

7th place for now is decisively taken by Gonzaburow (up from 11th, 153.93) who seems to have found his mojo after winning the Aki Masters. Norizo (146.98) also returns from outside of the Top 10. Kitakachiyama's lackluster basho continues, so he finds himself slipping to 9th place (142.08). Choshu-yuki (140.78) stays in the Top 10, eking out the earlier basho upstarts Konosato and Senkoho.

 

Visual Standings:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X1vOQuz5W-XMO-ehYsu-ognnboCeVC31/view?usp=sharing

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chishafuwaku    302
1 hour ago, Randomitsuki said:

Hm, four hours of tireless work, and all I got so far is two likes? You philistines! :-P

I also feel it when I present results from 2ND LEAGUE.

Or it seems that no one sees, or if they see they do not like what they see.

Sometimes, it makes me want to give up

 

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Randomitsuki    1,241

Don‘t give up! Just do the stats for yourself and post  them „accidentally“. That‘s always the best motivation!

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Pandaazuma    736

Thanks for this, Rando!

I think this will get a lot closer. Susanoo mostly left Aoiyama out of his games, while he was my main pick - I'm out of Salarycap, FS and Roto all at one stroke. As most people have Aoiyama, Susanoo will definitely edge upwards towards the end in the pre-basho games. Hopefully this will provide a bit of excitement!

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Randomitsuki    1,241

Day 4:

Tamanaogijima was so nice to send me the Excel files that compute UDH standings, so I also have them available irrespective of whether he finds the time to post them.(Iamnotworthy...)

Projectedl Oracle Top 5:

1. Senkoho 621

2. chishafuwaku 618

3. suwihito 616

3. Frinkanohana 616

5. Asashosakari 615

5. Jejima 615

 

Estimated Salarycap Top 5:

1. Frinkanohana 465

2. Senkoho 447

3. Susanoo 435

4. Gibuten 414

4. Kotononami 414

 

Masters Race:

Frinkanohana is on fire, and takes a commanding lead for Kyushu Basho  (65.76). As of now, he leads in Toto and Salarycap Sumo, and also is poised for double digits in Tippspiel and RotoSumo. Senkoho (53.00) moves up into second place, not so much by his own doing, but more by the fact that yesterday's leaders took a day off. Konosato also regained some traction and jumps into third place (48.02). Further notables are yesterday's frontrunner Kotononami (42.92), Asashosakari (38.81), Susanoo (35.52), and ScreechingOwl (31.00).

 

World Championship Update:

Pandaazuma could stabilize a bit on a sub-par level (a little more than 13 Kyushu points for a current total of 260.12). As mentioned above, Susanoo (234.44) moved into 30+ territory for the tourney, so he was able to close the gap to a little more than 25 points. The Storm God would need a Green Mawashi performance in order to get the incumbent World Champion into trouble. 

The three-way battle for 3rd place has turned into a two-way battle for now, with Gurowake (179.52) continuing to have the upper hand over Asashosakari (177.92). Ganzohnesushi (166.29) and Taka (157.52) occupy no-man's land on the points graph which is sufficient for fifth and sixth place, respectively.

Kitakachiyama (146.12) could capitalize on the weakness of some competitors and moves up from 9th to 7th after a small upward trend. Konosato (140.62) returned from good to excellent for the basho, and consequently he improved from 11th overall to 8th overall. Norizo lost almost 10 points (137.18) and slips to 9th overall. Senkoho returns to the top 10 after experiencing another upward surge (134.02). Choshu-yuki (132.30) and Gonzaburow (after losing more than 32 points today!) were ousted from the top 10. Basho leader Frinkanohana (132.92) is very close to become eliglible for daily tracking, jumping into 11th place overall.

 

Pictorial Representation of the Mess:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uvv6URZWrOopk45AyuYKRystv_Ki4Ikt/view?usp=sharing

 

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Day 5:

Oracled Top 5 in Oracle:

1. Asashosakari 619

2. Senkoho 618

3. chishafuwaku 613

4. suwihito 612

5. Frinkanohana 611

 

Potential Top 5 in Salarycap Sumo:

1. Frinkanohana 606

2. Senkoho 579

3. Kotononami 549

4. Gibuten 528

5. Susanoo 519

 

Kyushu Masters Race:

For the first time this basho, we have the same leader. Though Frinkanohana (54.13) cooled off a bit, he remains up front. He still leads in Salarycap Sumo and shares the lead in Tippspiel, with other notable scores in Oracle, RotoSumo, and TTT. But two players aren't too far behind. One is former frontrunner Kotononami (51.00) who leads in Norizo Cup and UDH. The other is Nantonoyama (49.70) who wasn't even in the 30+ club as of yesterday. The rookie leads in RotoSumo, and is runner-up in ISP and Norizo Cup. Four more players are currently headed for the notable 30 points: Konosato (43.43), Asashosakari (42.62), Senkoho (37.50), and Torafujii (30.00).

 

World Championship Update:

All is well for Pandaazuma again (265.04). Not only did he register an upward trend - Susanoo's Day 4 surge was a tempest in a teapot (hey, clever word play) and the Japanese gaming legend fell back to 211.13, about 55 points behind the gaming behemoth.

Third place has turned into a 3-way race again, with Asashosakari (181.73) and a clearly improved Ganzohnesushi (177.91) moving up one notch, while Gurowake (174.68) loses two places.

Taka in sixth (157.06) has got some company from Kitakachiyama (152.38). Choshu-yuki had a strong day and moves into 8th place, not too far behind the Polish powerhouse (145.59).  Konosato (136.03, down from 8th) and Norizo (133.97; down from 9th) round out the top 10. For the first time this basho, quite a gap between 10th and 11th place has materialized, more than 12 points. 

 

Da Graph:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/116gcR9XUbUjdXuss4IzC4n_WTWjWXn3T/view?usp=sharing

 

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Day 6:

What might happen in Oracle:

1. Asashosakari 607.5

2. Senkoho 606.5

3. chishafuwaku 601.5

4. Kotononami 600.5

4. suwihito 600.5

4. Mmikasazuma 600.5

4. Frinkanohana 600.5

 

Likely Standings in SCS:

1. Frinkanohana 693

2. Susanoo 654

3. Senkoho 651

4. Kotononami 606

5. Gibuten 585

 

Kyushu Masters:

It's a tight race at the top, with four players currently having a good shot at the Green Mawashi. Kotononami (53.20) re-takes the lead he last held after Day 3. He continues to lead in relatively stable games, viz. Norizo Cup and UDH. He also features strongly in Oracle, Sumo Game, and Salarycap Sumo. Frinkanohana falls back to second place (51.08), leading in Salarycap Sumo and being second in Tippspiel. Nantonoyama (double digits in ISP, Norizo Cup, and RotoSumo for a total of 48.30) and Senkoho (double digits in Juryo Game, Oracle, Quad, and SCS for a total of 47.00) aren't too far behind. Further down the line, we have Asashosakari (40.75), Konosato (34.78), and Choshu-yuki (31.50).

 

Championship Struggles:

Pandaazuma (269.92) further improves his score. He is now at 23.00 points for the basho which would cause some rejoicing in mortal gamers, but I could imagine that he is appalled by such a "lousy" score. Susanoo (221.42) manages to close the gap to less than 50 points, but he is even behind the Panda in the Kyushu standings. 

In the lively battle for third place, Asashosakari remains in third (179.86), while Gurowake (171.93) overtakes Ganzohnesushi (170.56) after the latter lost his lead in Toto. The gap between Taka in sixth (156.52) and Kitakachiyama in seventh (155.17) has narrowed considerably. Choshu-yuki achieves a basho high, and with 149.42 she's not too far behind Taka and Kitakachiyama. At the moment, Norizo (138.86) populates no man's land. In contrast, tenth place is hotly contested right now: Senkoho (128.02) is currently in the spotlight, but Gonzaburow and Konosato are each trailing by less than a point.

 

Some curves:

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EnKCHTHC-hVPECatm2O4Eogmo4k3UClV/view?usp=sharing

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Day 7:

Oracle Projection:

1. Asashosakari 612

2. Senkoho 609

3. chishafuwaku 606

4. ayagawa 603

5. Choshu-yuki 602

5. Frinkanohana 602

 

Salarycap Estimates:

1. Frinkanohana 762

2. Susanoo 738

3. Senkoho 723

4. ayagawa 678

5. Gibuten 669

5. Kotononami 669

 

Masters:

Some of the more "stable" games were subject to some turmoil today. We still have a four-way race for the Green Mawashi right now, but the list of contestants has slightly changed. Frinkanohana (52.36) has regained the lead by overtaking Kotononami (49.50). Nantonoyama had a terrible day and drops from 3rd to 11th in the standings. He is replaced by an ever-increasing Asashosakari (48.74). Senkoho (47.00) is also up and running.

Five other players are north of 30: Konosato (39.79), Choshu-yuki (39.00), Torafujii (35.25), Pandaazuma (32.50), and Gurowake (30.25).

 

World Championships:

300 points might be a little bit too much to be asked for, but with Pandaazuma (279.42) you never really know. Susanoo (213.92) lost more ground. Asashosakari (187.85) stays in 3rd place, but Gurowake (183.93) is also on the rise. Ganzohnesushi (167.98) disengages from the battle for 3rd place right now.

Three players are currently vying for sixth place, with Taka (159.72) having the upper hand while Choshu-yuki (156.92) overtook Kitakachiyama (156.50) for seventh place. Norizo (146.87) remains in 9th place while Konosato (132.39) grabs 10th place from Senkoho (128.02).

 

The Squiggle:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gw1RGMlNpF-bngo7j999l3LNLGLDQB7H/view?usp=sharing

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Pandaazuma    736

Thanks again to Rando for all the hard work he puts into the games. I am still hoping against hope that he'll make a grand return to the gaming scene! ;)

Thanks also to Chisha for the non-SB gaming stuff.

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Pandaazuma    736

If possible could you copy and paste the top ten for UDH, Rando? The lad has sent me the data with instructions on how to update the standings (he is busy) but I am too dumb to do it. I think I know, but am worried to try as I might blow everything up. A mate is going to show me on Monday or Tuesday so I should be able to update it then, but until then...

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Day 8:

Projected Oracle Top 10:

1. Asashosakari 601

2. Senkoho 597

3. ayagawa 595

4. chishafuwaku 592

5. Konosato 590

5. Frinkanohana 590

7. Kotononami 589

7. suwihito 589

7. Mmikasazuma 589

10. Nantonoyama 588

10. Taka 588

Pandaazuma is 12th with 587; Susanoo is 25th with 581.

 

Potential SCS Top 10 (I still don't know whether fusen-kinboshi give bonuses. Anyone?)

1. Senkoho 858 (could be 810 points if Tamawashi's fusen kinboshi does not count)

2. Frinkanohana 855 (could be 807 points; see above)

3. Susanoo 825

4. ayagawa 777 (could be 723 points; see above)

5. Gibuten 759

5. Kotononami 759

7. Nantonoyama 744

8. Kasamatsuri 732

8. Konosato 732

10. Asashosakari 726

Pandaazuma is 19th with 690.

 

By request of Pandaazuma, here are the UDH Top 10 (provided that I knew how to handle Tamanaogijima's macros properly):

1. Asashosakari 217

2. Kotononami 212

2. Kitsunegari 212

4. Ayagawa 208

5. Hironoumi 204

5. Gonzaburow 204

7. Saruyama 202

8. Shatsume 201

9. Ruziklao 198

10. Rhyen 197

Pandaazuma is 11th with 196; Susanoo is 24th with 185; Konosato is 31st with 180; Frinkanohana is 39th with 172; Senkoho is 40th with 171

 

Masters Standings:

The big winner of the day was Konosato. An also-ran yesterday, he now moves into the top of the Kyushu Masters Standings. He suddenly materialized in the Top 10 of Oracle, had a phenomenal day (from 2 to 10 points) in Tippspiel, and took the lead in Toto. However, that very lead in Toto (over four other players with identical record) puts a small question mark on whether he can stay numero uno for the basho. The Swiss Wizard stands at 60.30 Masters points. Surprisingly, his lead is far from dominating, as nakabi saw just another really big winner, and that's Asashosakari (who morphed from a very solid player to a World Class prediction machine over the last year). The Walking Sumopedia got crucial wins in Bench, Quad, and TTT today. A nice boost in Salarycap Sumo and taking the surprise lead in UDH (Kotononami had a commanding lead until yesterday) moved him up to 59.10 points.

Kotononami (46.17) and Senkoho (44.20) were well in the race as of the yesterday, and though they could hold their ground today, the sudden surge by Raymond and Pierre leaves them in the dust for now. Three other players are currently above 30 points: Torafujii (35.00), Frinkanohana (34.76; terrible day for him), and Pandaazuma (32.20).

 

World Championship Standings: 

Pandaazuma (279.12) leads Susanoo (216.85) in 11 out of 19 games (Susanoo leads in five games, with three ties), so the World Championship is settled, particularly as Susanoo has an awful basho in lots of games. This only leaves the question of whether the Panda can get to 300. He can probably write off Bench, Tippspiel, ISP, Norizo Cup, RotoSumo, and TTT. There are a couple of games where he might be in striking distance of the Top 10 (Fantasy Sumo, Juryo Game, Salarycap Sumo, Oracle, UDH), and he is only one win behind the Top 10 in Quad and Toto. It's very difficult to scratch another 20+ points from this scenario, but who else but Simon could do it?

Asashosakari (198.21) suddenly finds himself in super solo third place, leading with almost 20 points in front of his closest pursuer. Gurowake (179.43) currently is in no man's land with a near-20 point gap upward and a near-20 point gap downward. 

Suddenly, we have a fierce battle about whose face will appear in the top line of the Final Standings Web Page, with an advancing Taka (162.62) overtaking Ganzohnesushi (162.29) for fifth. Further down, a fight for seventh place between Kitakachiyama (153.90) and Konosato (152.90) has ensued. Choshu-yuki (144.78; 9th) currenty dominates the husband-and-wife duel against Norizo (134.26; 10th). 

 

Sumo Stock Market Visualization (always buy Pandaazuma shares!):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OBWEOrsyICleFlaIampMVmLL2khVS-fw/view?usp=sharing

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Pandaazuma    736

Thanks, Rando.

Regarding SCS, it doesn't specify in the rules as Hoshitori does that a fusensho against a yokozuna is classed as a kinboshi. It just says there is a bonus for kinboshi and ginboshi. Therefore, as Tamawashi doesn't officially have a kinboshi from Harumafuji, there should be no bonus.

But only Gusoyama would know, I guess...and he has disappeared.

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Konosato    14
2 hours ago, Randomitsuki said:

the sudden surge by Raymond and Pierre 

 

it sounds familiar, my brother's name is Pierre :-)

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