Randomitsuki 2,548 Posted September 9, 2017 The newest latest edition of the Superbanzuke is online. For the first time since Nagoya 2011 we have four players with 6000+ points. That's quite an accomplishment, what with the number of players decreasing year by year. Pandaazuma has regained the top spot for the first time in two years. Great stuff! Susanoo isn't too far behind as Yokozuna West. Gurowake takes the top Ozeki spot while Taka moves to O1w with a new points record of exactly 6000. Flohru and Konosato represent the second tier of Ozeki. In lower sanyaku, Kitakachiyama and Norizo are both promoted from Komusubi to Sekiwake. Ganzohnesushi returns to the sanyaku after one year, whereas Choshu-yuki makes her first sanyaku appearance since Natsu 2009! Among Maegashira, chishafuwaku reaches M1 for the first time in his career (no new points record). Kaiomitsuki achieves a new career high at M2 (including a new points record). Bill returns to a career-high M3, last held in Haru 2016. Metzinowaka improves to a new career high at M4 (no points record). Sebunshu returns to his previous career high of M10, getting a new points record in the process. Unkonoyama improves his career high to M11 (with a new points record to boot). Nantonoyama moves up to a new high M14 and eclipses 1500 points for the first time ever. After spending a basho in Juryo, Chisaiyama also gets a new career high at M14 (plus new points record). Moreover, we have two shin-Makuuchi. The first one is Holleshoryu at M15. He made his first Superbanzuke appearance in Natsu 2006. Exactly 10 years ago he had his Makushita debut, but toiled in the lower division for quite some time after that. His sekitori debut materialized in Natsu 2015. The other newcomer to the top division is Saruyama. He debuted on the Superbanzuke in Hatsu 2010. In Natsu 2011 he first appeared in Makushita, and in Haru 2013 he became Juryo for the first time ever. Since Hatsu 2016 he turned into a Juryo mainstay, and finally made the cut this basho. In Juryo, we have two new career highs for established players, one for Suwihito (J9), the other for Andrasoyamawaka (J12). More importantly, we have no less than three shin-Juryo. The first one is Tsuchinoninjin who almost accomplished a direct promotion from Makushita to Makuuchi (J1). Chankoyama (J7) and Gawasukotto (J10) are the other debutants in the second division. 4 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,273 Posted September 9, 2017 Thanks as always, Rando! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,524 Posted September 9, 2017 53 minutes ago, Randomitsuki said: For the first time since Nagoya 2011 we have four players with 6000+ points. That's quite an accomplishment, what with the number of players decreasing year by year. Wouldn't it be easier with less people? The less people there are, the more likely the best players will be ranked higher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomitsuki 2,548 Posted September 9, 2017 33 minutes ago, Gurowake said: Wouldn't it be easier with less people? The less people there are, the more likely the best players will be ranked higher. I never spent much thought about it. I was just going by the raw numbers, remembering that at some stages the top players even had 8000+ points. But on second thought it seems that you could be right. Of course, there are less points handed out when a game drops from, say, 150 to 100 players. But then again, the Superbanzuke calculations are based on the square root of players. So the multipliers in the example would be sqrt(150) = 12.25 for 150 players vs. sqrt(100) = 10.00 for 100 players. In other words, when the number of players goes down by 33.3%, the multiplier only goes down by 18.4%. This could amount to the relative advantage that you insinuated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,524 Posted September 9, 2017 I didn't take into account at all the scaling of the points based on the number of players, completely forgetting about it, making your comment seem much more reasonable. It's hard to say which effect would be stronger when it comes to the likelihood of multiple people scoring above a certain mark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taka 33 Posted September 11, 2017 Not scoring more WC points at the end of last Basho was very disappointing (things had been looking so great!) so this points record serves as nice encouragement that things have indeed still been going great. I think I'm close to my limit though and expect downswing very soon... Thanks for the continued work Randomitsuki! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
