BASHO TALK -- Natsu 2017 -- SPOILERS

[Rocks 1,804]

All I could think of watching the Chiyomaru-Daiamami match was the Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy.

[Rocks 1,804]

Kotoyuki goes out in a wheelchair after losing quickly to Ikioi. He should have just went kyujo for the rest of the basho.

[fwuzzle23 66]

9 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Kotoyuki goes out in a wheelchair after losing quickly to Ikioi. He should have just went kyujo for the rest of the basho.

Probably was just trying to avoid being demoted to juryo. He still needed a couple more wins to be safe.

EDIT: URAAAAAAA

Edited May 24, 2017 by fwuzzle23

[Rocks 1,804]

Shodai is never going to be among the top if he loses to guys like Ura.

[d_golem 213]

12 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Shodai is never going to be among the top if he loses to guys like Ura.

You mean future sanyaku Ura?

[Rocks 1,804]

18 minutes ago, d_golem said:

You mean future sanyaku Ura?

If Ura gets there it will only be for 1 basho at a time and only with a high score from a lower rank. I doubt he ever KKs at joi level.

[autotroph 43]

Anticlimactic final bout for day 11, Mitakeumi looked seriously hyped though.

[Tiger Tanaka 218]

Mitakeumi! That victory could bring Takayasu and Terror back into the yusho picture. 

 

 

[kumoryu 88]

25 minutes ago, Tiger Tanaka said:

Mitakeumi! That victory could bring Takayasu and Terror back into the yusho picture. 

 

 

It's possible the last two days will give us:

D14: Harumafuji v Takayasu; Hakuho v Terunofuji

D15: Terunofuji v Takayasu; Harumafuji v Hakuho

and they could all still be yusho candidates going into those last two rounds

[Adil 232]

8 hours ago, Bumpkin said:

Kisenosato's day 1 loss was on senshuraku musubi no ichiban

musubi no ichiban = last bout of the day

senshuraku = last day of the tournament

[d_golem 213]

1 hour ago, Rocks said:

If Ura gets there it will only be for 1 basho at a time and only with a high score from a lower rank. I doubt he ever KKs at joi level.

Yeah that would be the likeliest scenario based on current form and data, however humans are humans and we humans love to be surprised by superhuman feats so I'm crossing my fingers multiple times as humanly possible. Come on Uraaa!!

[Philioyamfugi 378]

Haven't seen a lick of today's sumo yet, but like what I see in today's results... Ura Shodia s a gotta see. Hokutofuji Ura tomorrow...wow great booking.

Edited May 24, 2017 by Philioyamfugi

[Benevolance 2,465]

Hak's got a lead going into the final few days and people think the tournament is still up for grabs.

[Philioyamfugi 378]

24 minutes ago, Benevolance said:

Hak's got a lead going into the final few days and people think the tournament is still up for grabs.

The boss is back !

[orandashoho 720]

11 minutes ago, Philioyamfugi said:

The boss is back !

Yes, but he has to work that much harder for it, and run a greater risk of further injury.

[PawnSums 59]

Yusho Prediction:

By Day 12:

11-1: Hakuho

10-2: Harumafuji, Terunofuji, Takayasu, Ura

 

By Day 13:

11-2: Hakuho, Terunofuji, Takayasu, Ura

By Day 14:

12-2: Terunofuji, Ura

11-3: Takayasu, Hakuho

 

By Day 15:

13-2: Terunofuji, Ura

12-3: Takayasu, Hakuho

[orandashoho 720]

2 minutes ago, PawnSums said:

Yusho Prediction:

You must be joking.

[PawnSums 59]

Just now, orandashoho said:

You must be joking.

No, I like making predictions that nobody thinks will happen, Remember last basho?

[Andreas21 182]

5 hours ago, Rocks said:

Shodai is never going to be among the top if he loses to guys like Ura.

 

5 hours ago, Rocks said:

If Ura gets there (Sanyaku) it will only be for 1 basho at a time and only with a high score from a lower rank. I doubt he ever KKs at joi level.

Phew, I'm really astonished that such an incredible amount of Sumo wisdom can be condensed in those small sentences. I'm baffled, really. I'm not even able to grasp the category "like Ura" as I have never seen a Rikishi which is in any way similar.

Now that the final truth is spoken, it is crystal clear that both Rikishi in mention are doomed for the rest of their careers.

[Philioyamfugi 378]

Some great matches today. Yoshikaze Endo was a war. Ura being Ura but he's looking strong as well as quick. Aioyama fighting like a beast in his last 3 or so losses giving Terror all he has. Kagayaki good strong sumo. Hakaho when he wiggles out of opponents grips effectively he's gonna win. 

Edited May 24, 2017 by Philioyamfugi

[Rocks 1,804]

4 minutes ago, Andreas21 said:

 

Phew, I'm really astonished that such an incredible amount of Sumo wisdom can be condensed in those small sentences. I'm baffled, really. I'm not even able to grasp the category "like Ura" as I have never seen a Rikishi which is in any way similar.

Now that the final truth is spoken, it is crystal clear that both Rikishi in mention are doomed for the rest of their careers.

Hey, what can I say? Somebody has got to do it right?

As far as "Like Ura", there's been a lot of Uras.   Yoshikaze for one. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Ura gets old and wise, if he sticks around long enough, like Yoshikaze he'll put together a small run at the top. But like Yoshikaze he'll have to go through a LOT of this:

 

[Amamaniac 2,078]

1 hour ago, PawnSums said:

By Day 15:

13-2: Terunofuji, Ura

12-3: Takayasu, Hakuho

I would love to see Ura fight Terunofuji!  While Teru has the weight and strength advantage, I think Ura would be too much for him to handle.  Ura is fast and stays low, always making it difficult for opponents to get a belt hold.

Given Ura's record in this tournament, he'll be advancing upward in the banzuke.  He could well be fighting Teru later this year, if not in this tournament...

[Bumpkin 438]

5 hours ago, Adil said:

musubi no ichiban = last bout of the day

senshuraku = last day of the tournament

Yes, thank you.

[WAKATAKE 2,619]

No standouts for Juryo this basho since the only three loss person lost today, leaving four guys at 7-4.

Takagenji got EXTREMELY lucky today and staved off the curtain for one more day as his opponent committed an isamiashi.

Gagamaru was pissed off at Aminishiki for the henka. My thought was, what do you expect? Aminishiki is the henka king in the sumo world right now.

Kotoyuki will be going back to the juryo it seems, so unfortunate that a guy who had a great run around the same time his heya mate was doing good has fallen so low. All because the NSK killed the bark.

Ura vs Shodai, my oh my that Ura spin. Double digits I think will give him the gino-sho. 

And Geek also saved his rank for another day, just think that three days ago many of us were saying he's done. Even if he were to go MK this basho, at this point I don't think he's done. 

Takayasu didn't let the loss against Hakuho faze him today, back on track for the run. Finish strong with an 11-4/12-3 and I bet it will be unanimous.

Terunofuji staying strong, not letting the injury bother him up to this point.

Hakuho taking care of business, but the Isegahama pair are his biggest challenge yet.

Goeido playing the edge again, gotta have a .500 in the last four days.

Mitakeumi gave it all he got, and it paid off. Now he has a chance to save his sanyaku rank.

Harumafuji messed up there, now we won't get a zensho bout on senshuraku.

Closing out, unfortunate that Kise had to drop out, but it's all for the better if he wants to have a long Yokozuna career.

[Dapeng 232]

1 hour ago, PawnSums said:

No, I like making predictions that nobody thinks will happen, Remember last basho?

Kise's yusho last basho was a not completely a surprise...... however I predict him no yusho again: this is also a predictions that few thinks will happen