Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, ScreechingOwl said: Goeido's sumo was so poor that it's almost beyond words. He should easily be able to defeat Endo going forward, but instead he pulls, almost loses, and then, two feet from the edge of the dohyo, decides to pull again. He's just an awful ozeki - I think the worst since Miyabiyama. I hope he can't pull out eight wins this time and loses the rank. (Although that's not going to happen.) His heel appeared to be out after his initial tawara balancing act, and I think he noticed. He knew he'd lost but not been called on it, and didn't put up much resistance after that probably in concession as a gentleman. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dada78641 884 Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, rhyen said: Will we meet you in the kokugikan, one of these days? I tried to get good tickets! But unfortunately couldn't get them. However, I'm planning to go to the kokugikan at 5 AM next saturday, day 14. I doubt I'll get any leftover tickets but I'm going to try. Someone I know was able to go, today, by being there from 5 AM (and being number 101 in line). This photo is in Kinshicho, right next to Ryogoku. I'd totally be down for a drink or coffee sometime, if anyone is up for such a thing, though! Edited May 21, 2017 by dada78641 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philioyamfugi 378 Posted May 21, 2017 How about my new boy Kagayaki only 22. Hokotofuji big fighting spirit. Aioyama put up a good fight. Today was fighting spirit day 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dada78641 884 Posted May 21, 2017 Still loving Hokutofuji's fighting spirit and style. I'm glad he's doing well this basho! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,614 Posted May 21, 2017 2 hours ago, ScreechingOwl said: Goeido's sumo was so poor that it's almost beyond words. He should easily be able to defeat Endo going forward, but instead he pulls, almost loses, and then, two feet from the edge of the dohyo, decides to pull again. He's just an awful ozeki - I think the worst since Miyabiyama. I hope he can't pull out eight wins this time and loses the rank. (Although that's not going to happen.) I wouldn't totally trash talk Goeido. Unlike Miyabiyama, he actually got a yusho, and a zensho at that. He's also lasted longer than Miyabiyama, Dejima, and Baruto in terms of Ozeki longevity, and currently tied with Kotomitsuki also. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=842 http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=31 http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=6432 http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=876 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwale 419 Posted May 21, 2017 So many good bouts today... To start with Kisenosato v. Aoiyama, here you see something that Kisenosato does very well, perhaps better than anyone else in the division, and that's spending his energy efficiently. And this match was classic Kisenosato, constant pressure over time as opposed to straining forward and burning through all his oxygen in seconds. (I suspect Kise may have an abnormally effective cardiovascular system, though a combination of style and conditioning could explain his stamina just as well.) In any case, Aoiyama seems to have expended his stores in the effort; after that it was a simple matter for Kise to move him out. Very impressed with Hokutofuji today. Takarafuji is strong enough to where his having you on the bails is a problem. Great display of tenacity from Hokutofuji and an entertaining match all around. Ura pulling a bit of a magic trick there. Swoosh! We've seen Terunofuji hoist guys off their feet plenty of times, yet it never ceases to be impressive. Holy crap is this guy ever a monster. Mitakeumi: "Note to self, be very, very careful of letting this guy get a hold of you." Harumafuji seems about as healthy as he gets. I'm more convinced by his sumo than by Hakuho's this basho, but you can never count Hakuho out. It'll be interesting to see what happens. Takayasu still on track. Yoshikaze is a good rikishi, but just no match for Takayasu today at all. Special mention for Daishomaru's sukuinage victory, which was clean and flashy. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kumoryu 88 Posted May 21, 2017 52 minutes ago, WAKATAKE said: I wouldn't totally trash talk Goeido. Unlike Miyabiyama, he actually got a yusho, and a zensho at that. He's also lasted longer than Miyabiyama, Dejima, and Baruto in terms of Ozeki longevity, and currently tied with Kotomitsuki also. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=842 http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=31 http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=6432 http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=876 Ranked as komusubi or above, Goeido has never, not even once, put together 33 wins in a three-basho sequence. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted May 21, 2017 Endo is 3-5 in his quest to get his first-ever KK from M4 or higher. So far he's defeated 1 yokozuna (Kisenosato) and both ozeki. OTOH he's lost to the other 3 yokozuna, Takayasu and Aoiyama. He is scheduled to face Kotoshogiku on day 9. That leaves Tamawashi, both komisubi and all of the maegashira to round out his schedule in his quest to go at least 5-2 in the next 7 days and get his KK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,078 Posted May 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Dwale said: To start with Kisenosato v. Aoiyama, here you see something that Kisenosato does very well, perhaps better than anyone else in the division, and that's spending his energy efficiently. And this match was classic Kisenosato, constant pressure over time as opposed to straining forward and burning through all his oxygen in seconds. (I suspect Kise may have an abnormally effective cardiovascular system, though a combination of style and conditioning could explain his stamina just as well.) In any case, Aoiyama seems to have expended his stores in the effort; after that it was a simple matter for Kise to move him out. Kisenosato is rarely if ever out of breath, even after a long bout like this one. As you say, Dwale, he may well have an "abnormally effective cardiovascular system" or maybe simply put huge lungs. But I have to say, I was impressed by Aoiyama's footwork in this bout. He rarely is that agile. I thought he would come up with another shift at the end, but Kise had indeed worn him out. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,244 Posted May 21, 2017 Really good stuff by Kisenosato so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senkoho 552 Posted May 21, 2017 Meanwhile, down in Jonidan, the half-Pole Tsuyukusa is 4-0 at his career high rank! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwale 419 Posted May 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Amamaniac said: Kisenosato is rarely if ever out of breath, even after a long bout like this one. As you say, Dwale, he may well have an "abnormally effective cardiovascular system" or maybe simply put huge lungs. But I have to say, I was impressed by Aoiyama's footwork in this bout. He rarely is that agile. I thought he would come up with another shift at the end, but Kise had indeed worn him out. Aoiyama has surprised me with his agility a number of times. He's so top-heavy it seems like it should be impossible, but he can be quite nimble sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gijo 27 Posted May 21, 2017 Ichinojo it's the maakuchi's Orora. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,900 Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) Somewhere in the line of Ura's ancestors, there must be a spanish torrero...OLÉ! Mitakeumi got a good clobbering from the upper ranks, but he showed fantastic sumo. Now it's time to cash in on the lower ranks, KK guaranteed. Same for Yoshikaze. Will Hakuho and Harumafuji steam on, or will Takayasu intercept them? Nice basho so far. Edit: I'd like one thing to change. Kise making every bout an hour long drama is a PITA for making the pics posts. Please quick'n'dirty from here on Edited May 21, 2017 by Benihana 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,804 Posted May 21, 2017 Tonight could be a very interesting night. Outside of Takyasu and Hakuho I don't see anybody else in sanyaku as a sure winner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highway 46 Posted May 22, 2017 Why can't Aoiyama give it so much of a go every bout. :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,078 Posted May 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Rocks said: Tonight could be a very interesting night. Outside of Takyasu and Hakuho I don't see anybody else in sanyaku as a sure winner. I'm hoping Harumafuji will give Takayasu and Hakuho a run for their money. But then again, I'm a maniac that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,804 Posted May 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Amamaniac said: I'm hoping Harumafuji will give Takayasu and Hakuho a run for their money. But then again, I'm a maniac that way. Oh I think Harumafuji will be right in the Yusho battle at the end but Tamashi is going to be a handful for him tonight. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,078 Posted May 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, Rocks said: Oh I think Harumafuji will be right in the Yusho battle at the end but Tamashi is going to be a handful for him tonight. Agreed. Tamawashi seems to be using Haru's old throat thrust tachiai technique to good effect. It definitely helped him win his bout against Takayasu on Day 6. Hakuho figured out how to counter that. Will Haru adopt Hakuho's defence or will he go with his own game plan? Haru seemed to handle Chiyoshoma with ease yesterday, and while Chiyoshoma is no Tamawashi, the general size matchup and Mongolian connection is similar. I think Haru has the speed advantage, as long as his tachiai is strong, he should win... That's the result I'm hoping for, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PawnSums 59 Posted May 22, 2017 On 5/18/2017 at 05:05, d_golem said: As I said articulately in the sherming live stream chat today : ever-decreasing yokozuna-ness. Probably intai after next basho, following Geeku's intai after this one. Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScreechingOwl 343 Posted May 22, 2017 12 hours ago, WAKATAKE said: I wouldn't totally trash talk Goeido. Unlike Miyabiyama, he actually got a yusho, and a zensho at that. He's also lasted longer than Miyabiyama, Dejima, and Baruto in terms of Ozeki longevity, and currently tied with Kotomitsuki also. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=842 http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=31 http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=6432 http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=876 Here's a table showing ozeki performance: Wins 10+ 9 8 mk Miyabiyama 0 2 2 4 Dejima 5 2 2 3 Kotomitsuki 5 4 6 2 Baruto 8 4 1 2 Goeido 2 3 6 5 Those are the numbers. Goeido and Baruto each won one yusho as ozeki. (Kotomitsuki and Dejima each one one yusho prior to being elevated to ozeki.) Everyone is free to interpret the numbers as he or she chooses to, but from my vantage point Goeido has been a poor ozeki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,804 Posted May 22, 2017 Wow, Satoyama beat Takagenji by basically allowing Takagenji to beat on his face for 2 minutes to wear himself out. It's was like Rocky vs Apollo Creed. Awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 974 Posted May 22, 2017 Just now, Rocks said: Wow, Satoyama beat Takagenji by basically allowing Takagenji to beat on his face for 2 minutes to wear himself out. It's was like Rocky vs Apollo Creed. Awesome. Wow, wow! Satoyama is the man! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,804 Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) Kotoyuki kyujo. Very late withdrawal. Nice gift win for Kasei. He needed it, along with the rest. Edited May 22, 2017 by Rocks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted May 22, 2017 30ºC in Tokyo today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites