Kintamayama 44,354 Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) The soken was held today, open to the public at the Kkan. Kisenosato was absent due to the injury. "I cannot do any sumo with sekitori," he explained. Hakuhou faced Endou and two others for nine bouts and won them all. Kakuryuu faced Terunofuji and Goueidou and was 8-4 against them. Mitakeumi was absent due to a left hand injury. Takayasu was going at it fiercely. Started off with random bouts against Makuuchi rikishi, then faced Harumafuji for 10 bouts, going 4-6. He immediately followed that with a butsugari session with Hakuhou. "I did some good keiko with the Yokozuna," he said later. "Whatever I did, it became defensive sumo for me, but I found ways to counter his attacks," added Takayasu regarding Harumafuji. The fans were rooting for him loudly. "In summary, I was motivated. I want to return the favor with good results!!" he summed. 8000 fans were present. "Too bad Kisenosato was absent. I guess he still isn't confident. He probably will be training at home for this basho," said Hakkaku rijicho. Edited May 3, 2017 by Kintamayama 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,354 Posted May 3, 2017 Tagonoura Oyakata has come under fire for "forgetting" to notify the Kyokai of Kisenosato's absence from the soken. The bosses are furious. "This is not good. He has to have some notion of what's going on.. It's different from being an Ozeki," said Kasugano, head of PR. The most surprised person in all of this was Kisenosato himself. He spoke last night with the Oyakata and they agreed he should skip the soken. "Since I can't do any sumo against sekitori, I was allowed to rest. I could have gone and done the basic shiko and stuff, but I preferred to try and do sumo against the lower rankers at home. This is unforgivable.." said Kisenosato. After hearing the furor this caused, he was quite surprised. The truth is that the Oyakata just forgot to notify the Kyokai of Kisenosato's absence. He apologized later to the rijicho. "Kisenosato told me he wanted to skip the soken and I should have relayed that to the Kyokai. My bad. It's inexcusable to have caused such bother," summed Tagonoura Oyakata, side burning. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuroyama 715 Posted May 3, 2017 Really, you'd think that given Kisenosato's performance as a shin-yokozuna, and the pretty obvious severity of his injury, no one would have gotten his fundoshi in a twist over this. (Yes, I know they're supposed to be twisted.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkinnySumo 32 Posted May 3, 2017 Goeido v Terunofuji(Later in the video) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkinnySumo 32 Posted May 3, 2017 Hakuho and Takayasu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkinnySumo 32 Posted May 3, 2017 Terunofuji might have messed up his knees again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,354 Posted May 4, 2017 10 hours ago, Kuroyama said: Really, you'd think that given Kisenosato's performance as a shin-yokozuna, and the pretty obvious severity of his injury, no one would have gotten his fundoshi in a twist over this. (Yes, I know they're supposed to be twisted.) I think the point is that it was the YDC soken. Kisenosato is now a Yokozuna, so if he's unavailable there is a protocol of some sort which was not followed, ensuing in a lot of "moushiwakenai"s all around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,354 Posted May 4, 2017 Takayasu: "I'm still lacking in stamina so I wanted to do keiko that will render me out of breath.. I am thankful for being pulled forward and being able to be part of the keiko. I am happy!" Enter the Sandman: 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted May 4, 2017 7 hours ago, Kintamayama said: I think the point is that it was the YDC soken. Kisenosato is now a Yokozuna, so if he's unavailable there is a protocol of some sort which was not followed, ensuing in a lot of "moushiwakenai"s all around. And he should have known of the notification protocol (though perhaps not exactly what it entails) just from being around so long. I'm surprised the YDC didn't open fire with both barrels for him not being there, injury or not. No notification makes it worse. But he's still on his honeymoon, so he can get by with stuff for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,354 Posted May 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Fukurou said: And he should have known of the notification protocol (though perhaps not exactly what it entails) just from being around so long. I'm surprised the YDC didn't open fire with both barrels for him not being there, injury or not. No notification makes it worse. But he's still on his honeymoon, so he can get by with stuff for now. As I wrote yesterday, the Oyakata is the one who is supposed to relay the request, and Tagonoura said he forgot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted May 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Kintamayama said: As I wrote yesterday, the Oyakata is the one who is supposed to relay the request, and Tagonoura said he forgot. Perhaps the sumor world is different (as it usually is), but isn't it on Kisenosato to follow up, to double check with his oyakata that something so important had been taken care of? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,354 Posted May 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Fukurou said: Perhaps the sumor world is different (as it usually is), but isn't it on Kisenosato to follow up, to double check with his oyakata that something so important had been taken care of? I do not think so. He has enough on his mind as it is. These things are exactly what his Oyakata is there for.. Kisenosato said he was totally surprised by this, so I assume he assumed Tagonoura would be doing his job as agreed between them only one night before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 433 Posted May 5, 2017 On 5/4/2017 at 06:59, Kuroyama said: Really, you'd think that given Kisenosato's performance as a shin-yokozuna, and the pretty obvious severity of his injury, no one would have gotten his fundoshi in a twist over this. (Yes, I know they're supposed to be twisted.) Formalities and procedures mean everything in traditional Japanese culture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orion 431 Posted May 6, 2017 On 2017年5月5日 at 06:50, Fukurou said: Perhaps the sumor world is different (as it usually is), but isn't it on Kisenosato to follow up, to double check with his oyakata that something so important had been taken care of? No. If he'd already told his oyakata that he was in no state to appear at the Soken, then it was the oyakata's duty to inform the Kyokai. Simple as that. Orion Orion 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites